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Surface Pro starts at $899

Microsoft originally told us that Surface Pro would bow in the January of this year, but it looks as though the Redmond, Washington-based company is running a bit behind schedule. Microsoft announced today that Surface Pro would actually launch on February 9 in the U.S. and Canada.
Unlike Surface RT, which runs Windows RT and lacks Windows software backwards compatibility due to its use of an ARM processor, Surface Pro can handle the entire Windows library thanks to Windows 8 Pro. The tablet packs in a Core i5 processor, 1080p display, Mini DisplayPort, and a USB 3.0 port. The tablet is also much pricier than its Surface RT counterpart, which starts at $499. The 64GB version is priced at $899 while the 128GB model will cost you $999.

Source: CNN

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Looks like
By Ammohunt on 1/22/2013 1:40:21 PM , Rating: 2
This doesn't appear to be an everyday consumers tablet. There is an obvious business application but i can't see the value of this device in my house at that price.

RE: Looks like
By ERROR666 on 1/22/2013 1:47:15 PM , Rating: 3
I can't think of any good reason to use it for business either. At this price with this screen and storage it's an expensive toy, that would be ok for home use, except it doesn't make any sense financially.

RE: Looks like
By Samus on 1/22/2013 3:39:52 PM , Rating: 5
Expensive toy? Right, because the $700 iPad 64GB is a better buy...after adding a keyboard case and AppleCare to extend the warranty to match this, it's the same price as Surface Pro, still with no video out, no USB, no x86 compatibility, etc etc etc

RE: Looks like
By Nortel on 1/22/2013 7:39:49 PM , Rating: 3
The difference is simple. The cheapest surface pro is $900 where you can get the cheapest iPad 2 for $400. If you are using this for pure business use, you would not be putting music, video or games on it, making 16gb fine. I have trouble understanding why any business would need a touchscreen device vs say a normal laptop.

RE: Looks like
By jimbojimbo on 1/22/2013 10:51:56 PM , Rating: 2
You're thinking too simply. A Surface Pro is a computer that also has a touch screen. It's not like because a computer has a touch screen that you HAVE to use it for everything. The cheapest Pro is $900 and the cheapest current generation iPad with 64GB of storage is $700. The differences are with the Pro you can run all your Windows software that you already own or have collected. You also get full USB 3 ports. That $200 gets you SO much more I don't see how anybody can't understand the benefits.

RE: Looks like
By TakinYourPoints on 1/22/2013 11:39:12 PM , Rating: 2
Tablets are by nature a portable device, why should tethering a bunch of things be considered a positive? That's what wifi and bluetooth are for.

Don't get me wrong, I like the Surface (even the RT), but the lack of fullscreen touch-optimized Surface RT apps is a huge strike at the moment. I have Windows 8 on my laptop and full-screen tablet apps are not what I'd be using it for right now.

At this point I think I'd be more interested in a 13" or 15" laptop with an IPS touchscreen rather than the Surface, at least until the lack of dedicated touchscreen applications for Windows 8 gets sorted out.

RE: Looks like
By Da W on 1/23/2013 12:48:10 PM , Rating: 2
I can sell my 1000$ laptop and stick with a 1000$ tablet and my 3000$ desktop. Happy for you if yu prefer that 7inches Google piece of crap that still uses ICONS!

RE: Looks like
By name99 on 1/23/2013 12:58:57 PM , Rating: 2
The ACTUAL comparison you should be making is (baseline Surface Pro+kbd) = (baseline Macbook AIr + $30).
Personally I think the MBA is rather better value.

RE: Looks like
By mike66 on 1/22/2013 5:05:25 PM , Rating: 2
It's another ultra thin laptop with small amount of HD and limited spec. MS really does want to reflect Apples hardware business model !. It's a shame that these large companies still don't see that we as users want to be able to mod our hardware and software so we can attract attention to our new devices, it's called pride of ownership and it's really an ego boost when "mine looks the same as yours but can yours do this ?" It's also why Android has such a strong market and gaining market share all the time.

RE: Looks like
By Nortel on 1/23/2013 9:52:52 AM , Rating: 2
About half of the people I've seen with iPhones or Android phones use the default wallpaper and layout. Most people show off their 'flair' by slapping some rubberized plastic case on the device. But... we're talking about a laptop here... You CAN buy laptops with a discrete (removable) GPU, CPU and RAM but they are thick and heavy. The average person does NOT want to lug around a laptop that looks straight out of the 90's.

Android is gaining such a high market-share because it is both FREE and so many companies are producing devices with Android. There are only a few OS's right now. iOS, blackberry, windows phone and Android. Only Android is free and iOS and Blackberry aren't available for licencing.

RE: Looks like
By GoodBytes on 1/22/2013 1:47:36 PM , Rating: 2
This is great for school. The digitize pen is what makes it. You can actually draw graph, diagram even do math on it.

Even if you pick the 128GB, and a keyboard add-on, while you lose a few hours of battery life, it is smaller, and cheaper than the MacBook Air 128GB model. And you have Windows, while the MacBook Air it's potentially an extra cost, and you still don't have a digitize pen or any pen support for that mater.

RE: Looks like
By GoodBytes on 1/22/2013 1:49:05 PM , Rating: 2
To add, the Surface power adapter is tiny compare to any ultrabook, and has fast recharge, so it's not all that too bad in terms of battery issue.

RE: Looks like
By geekman1024 on 1/22/2013 9:57:28 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, Excel can plot a graph much precisely than a hand drawn graph, and I bet there are more software out there which can plot scientific/engineering grade graphs better than Excel did, and all of them can get precise values from keyboard input. If you are not talking about precision, a pen and a piece of graph paper will be more than suffice.

As for doing maths, if you are not a programmer, and is not planning to convert hand written maths formula into computerized format, a simple pen and a stack of paper is what you need.

Most students will find it hard to fork out that kinda money just to do what they usually do with pen and paper, unless, your last name is Gates.

RE: Looks like
By chmilz on 1/22/2013 1:51:14 PM , Rating: 4
at that price.

Says the millions of people who buy Macbook Airs. Surface Pro has better specs, is a fraction of the size, and more expandability than MBA, at a similar price point. Plus it's touch.

How is it a bad price? This device is not to be compared to your basic run of the mill Android cheapo tablet.

RE: Looks like
By xti on 1/22/2013 1:55:23 PM , Rating: 5
800-900 is fine with me, they had me at "runs entire windows library".

RE: Looks like
By Ammohunt on 1/23/2013 3:08:24 PM , Rating: 2
how many of those apps in the "Windows Library" work with a touch screen interface? 10?

RE: Looks like
By xti on 1/23/2013 3:47:39 PM , Rating: 2
what do you think that keyboard is in the picture?! Its not a snack when you are hungry!!!

I think that people are so quick to bash the trend of tablets, win8, heck even apple that they just go brain dead.

People (how many yet to be seen) want a tablet that replaces a laptops weight, heat, bulkyness, cost, etc. I want to play an MMO while my wife watches soaps on the couch. I shove the laptop off after 30 min or so my pants are on fire and not for a good thing.

RE: Looks like
By TakinYourPoints on 1/22/2013 11:40:46 PM , Rating: 2
It is really well priced for what you're getting. If it isn't for you then that's fine, but it isn't "overpriced" by any means.

RE: Looks like
By Ammohunt on 1/23/2013 3:18:31 PM , Rating: 2
$400~ is the sweet spot for serious tablet offerings

RE: Looks like
By johnsmith9875 on 2/4/2013 9:34:15 PM , Rating: 2
Businesses have yet to warm up to Windows 8 much less Surface. This is a negative double whammy to any enterprise adopting this platform to any scale.
Where I work we have no plans of going Windows 8 and we're considering iPads.

Why are you angry about the price?
By txDrum on 1/22/2013 1:54:36 PM , Rating: 2
It's an ultrabook competitor essentially - you're paying about the same for an equivalent macbook air, or Asus Zenbook etc. but Microsoft is exceeding all of those in screen quality and probably build quality (even the MBA). Plus the digitizer and tablet functionality is great.

Pricing isn't agressive, but it certainly isn't too overpriced compared to the other options. If you disagree, post a similarly built (quality wise) laptop at the same price. Yes you can have cheaper ultrabooks, but you're sacrificing enormously in build quality, screen quality, and feedback (keyboard, etc), likely even if you were comparing to the type cover. Cheap PC keyboards suck, and Anand for one had no complaints about the type cover.

RE: Why are you angry about the price?
By WeaselITB on 1/22/2013 2:38:16 PM , Rating: 2
Compare and contrast with the HP ElitePad 900 --

If they're a similar price, I'd definitely lean toward the Surface Pro, given the awesome build quality presumably carried forward from the Surface RT and the fact that it's a full-fledged Core rather than an Atom.

I did have a chance to handle an ElitePad a handful of weeks ago at an HP event, however, and I must say that they managed to get the accessory jacket and dock done amazingly well. Too bad that, since it's HP, they'll likely gouge on the accessory pricing. Not that the Type Cover is any bargin, though ...

By txDrum on 1/22/2013 3:13:27 PM , Rating: 2
If surface had taken 100$ off, or just bundled with type/touch, it would have been amazing.

I think even the perceived value would have been so good that a 899/999/1099 models, the latter two being bundled with the cover, would have been perceived as excellent value, even though it's the exact same price.

If they had offered the SP at current prices with a keyboard though... I would have snapped one up instantly if I hadn't just replaced my computer before they announced surface.

Also, build quality is going to be hugely up compared to almost any ultrabook, including the macbook air. Screen quality should beat them all, except for maybe the IPS panel in the Asus zenbooks, but I'm still not sure.

Battery life on ultrabooks won't be super competitive until haswell, but when it hits it should be great.

By liteup23 on 1/22/2013 3:57:58 PM , Rating: 2
While the price come out the same, some people will still be wanting for the traditional laptop (as in something that can support itself without needing a table top to rest on). The Asus Zenbook Touch gives you a 13.3" 1080p touch screen, 128GB SSD, the same amount of RAM, and the same processor more than likely.

Now I think it's up to the individual to determine which features they would prefer (personally I don't care about touchscreen laptops), but the spot on price makes me think that Microsoft isn't trying to undercut the competition, just show that windows can have as nice of tablets as iOS (with infinitely more functionality).

It's already doomed.
By 91TTZ on 1/22/2013 4:36:45 PM , Rating: 2
The Surface with Windows RT was supposed to be the high-volume "mainstream" tablet OS while the Surface Pro was going to be the rarer "professional" tablet.

It turns out that the Surface RT has flopped and the Surface Pro will sell even less.

RE: It's already doomed.
By Ramstark on 1/22/2013 7:43:20 PM , Rating: 1
Why? Because you come from December 2013 after using your time traveler phone booth?
Check the reviews and even the comments here on DT, the Surface Pro is the gadget that the Surface RT wanted to be. It's "the coolest touch ultrabook" out there and it is definitely well priced (not like the RT).
So, get off the hateo'rade and accept when a good product pushes the market forward...

RE: It's already doomed.
By Nortel on 1/22/2013 9:09:51 PM , Rating: 2
Take a step back from the 'techniness' of the tablet and look at it from your typical consumer. A consumer looks at a 10 inch tablet for $499 and then looks at this for $799 (plus $ for keyboard). How can someone justify the price difference, especially when most actual users hate windows 8.

RE: It's already doomed.
By jimbojimbo on 1/22/13, Rating: 0
RE: It's already doomed.
By xti on 1/23/2013 3:49:42 PM , Rating: 1
cuz they can install their copy of office on this tablet.


Something More!
By racesur on 1/23/2013 8:23:16 AM , Rating: 2
Finally, We have a tablet we can do more than just playing angry birds!

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