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The 787 Dreamliner's charred battery  (Source:
The battery will be sent to Tokyo for a deeper inspection

An opening investigation into the safety of Boeing's 787 Dreamliner is complete, and with the focus primarily on the 787's battery, more safety checks are on the way.

Boeing, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and Japanese officials have completed their initial investigation into the 787's battery problems in recent weeks. A battery that was involved in this week's incident will be sent to Tokyo for further investigation.

A Japanese safety official mentioned that the battery associated with this week's incident was charred, and that excessive electricity could be the reason it overheated. The battery looked like a burnt metal box that had liquid spilling from the inside.

Boeing uses rechargeable lithium-ion batteries for its main electrical system. GS Yuasa Corp., which makes the lithium-ion batteries used in the 787s, said the problem could be the battery, the power source or the electronics system.

Just this week, a 787, which was an All Nippon Airways (ANA) flight to Tokyo, had an issue with its main battery only 15 minutes into a 90-minute flight. After 40 minutes, a burning smell made its way into the cabin and cockpit, and the plane made an emergency landing at Takamatsu Airport on the southern island of Shikoku. This issue caused all 787s to be grounded in Japan, the U.S. and India until a safety investigation was conducted and the problems were corrected.

Unfortunately, this incident isn't where the 787's problems started. Early last week, a 787 operated by Japan Airlines had experienced an electrical fire at Boston's Logan International Airport after coming in from Tokyo. According to the National Transportation Safety Board, a battery in the auxiliary power unit suffered severe fire damage.

Just one day later, a Boeing 787 operated by the same airline at the same airport suffered a fuel leak. The fuel leak was discovered at 12:25 p.m. ET right after the 787 left the gate for a trip to Tokyo. The flight was cancelled, and the plane was towed back to the gate where passengers were instructed to exit and stay in the airport. No one was injured.

As it turns out, about 40 gallons of fuel had leaked from the 787. The plane ended up being delayed four hours before leaving for Tokyo.

On Friday of last week, two more issues occurred.
It was discovered that a 787 Dreamliner with All Nippon Airways (ANA), which had arrived at the Matsuyama airport in western Japan from Tokyo on Friday, developed a web-like crack in the cockpit window. The pilot found it about 70 minutes into the flight, but no one was injured. In a separate incident on Friday, but also with ANA, another 787 Dreamliner had an oil leak after traveling to the Miyazaki airport in southern Japan. It is unclear how much oil had leaked.

Source: Reuters

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RE: Excessive Electricity
By Keeir on 1/18/2013 6:00:59 PM , Rating: 5

#1. Amps are not a measure of Power. Amp x Volt = Watt. Watt is a measure of power. Not surprizingly the -same- electronics work just as well in Europe on 1/2 the Amps as they do in NA. Why? The Voltage is twice as much!

#2. Car batteries are linked to a system where Voltage is regulated to be very very low. ~12V in most cases. That means that a car battery needs to output 10 times the Amps compared to a wall socket and 20 times a European Wall socket.

#3. Having read the sheet. Your entirely wrong. CA does not stand for A! It really means that the maximum rate is X times the Capacity. This battery is 3.7 Volts with a maximum rate of 325 Amps. The sheet even showns 250 AMP results.

Each of these batteries is roughly capable of a short burst of 1.3 kW and wieght ~6 lbs each. A 60 lb car battery is capble of producing around ~8kW in short bursts. 60 lbs of these produce around 12 kW ... hmmm

RE: Excessive Electricity
By drycrust3 on 1/18/2013 7:36:14 PM , Rating: 2
The sheet even showns 250 AMP results.

Duh! It does too. Well, there you go, I got it all wrong.
My apologies to Yuasa.

RE: Excessive Electricity
By drycrust3 on 1/18/2013 8:47:41 PM , Rating: 2
... and apologies to Boeing.

RE: Excessive Electricity
By AntDX316 on 1/20/2013 4:32:01 AM , Rating: 2
boeings electrical engineers should be the best in business

surely there is a reason for an overlook

probably due to lack of adequate testing for the items they choose to use such as zero type failure of their battery selection at previous electrical rate

I'm saying they never could really test at that high rate for pro long period under every condition and assumed its checked ok but then again it could be but slight defect in that one battery is stereotyping everyone to say they are all bad

also other isolted incidents where its only one not all so they should realize not to fix and/or change great products for small defects out of production that really appear to be big

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