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Google's Larry Page
In short, he said their products could be better

It's not uncommon for rivals to bash one another, so Google co-founder and CEO Larry Page took a couple of jabs at Facebook and Apple in a recent interview.

In an interview with Wired, Page discussed how he wants Google to come up with some "moon shots," or far-out ideas such as the company's self-driving vehicles that recently achieved 30,000 accident-free miles.

However, Page also took the opportunity to throw a few insults at rivals Facebook and Apple. Google's social network, Google+, has been working to gain the amount of users that Facebook has while Google's Android operating system competes with Apple's iOS.

While Page recognizes that Facebook is a heavyweight in the social arena, he said, "They're also doing a really bad job on their products … we're actually doing something different [from Facebook]. I think it's outrageous to say that there's only space for one company in these areas."

Page may be a little sore that Google, which launched in 2011, hasn't quite lived up to the hype of it potentially being a Facebook rival. There are currently 500 million registered users on Google+ and only about 125 million are active monthly (compared to Facebook's one billion monthly active users as of October 2012).

Rather than become a Facebook rival, though, it looks more like Google+ has become a product incorporated into Google's search.

In November of last year, Google's Vice President of Product Bradley Horowitz spoke with Business Insider about Google+, also taking a jab at Facebook. Specifically, he targeted the social network's use of advertisements, where they're forced into people's news feeds. He even went as far as comparing Facebook ads to a guy with a sandwich board popping in between a father and his daughter during an important conversation. 

"We don't have to make next week's payroll by jamming ads at users," said Horowitz.

In the recent Wired interview, Page also had something to say about Apple's product practices. While Apple is another huge player in the mobile space, Page thinks its products are limited. 

"You know, we always have these debates: we have all this money, we have all these people, why aren't we doing more stuff?" said Page. "You may say that Apple only does a very, very small number of things, and that's working pretty well for them. But I find that unsatisfying."

Earlier this week, it was reported that Google's Nexus 7 tablet market share was greater in Japan than Apple's iPad. Market research firm BCN conducted a survey in Japan last December, and out of 2,400 consumer electronics stores in Japan, the iPad had 40.1 percent of the market while Google's Nexus 7 claimed 44.4 percent.

Source: Wired

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RE: A whole lot of hoopla
By menting on 1/18/2013 2:11:38 PM , Rating: 3
my point was, what's shameful about selling ads vs selling at a huge margin?
both their goals are to make money. You harp on Google for selling close to cost and trying to make up with ad revenue, but yet think it's fine when you take it up the ass with Apple's pricing?

It's illegal to sell below cost, but when you are offsetting that with an intent to recoup through other revenue, its' not "predatory pricing" anymore.

RE: A whole lot of hoopla
By messele on 1/18/2013 2:21:09 PM , Rating: 1
There's nothing wrong with selling advertising. It's a well established business.

What's not so easy to stomach is being fed advertising by a company that wants to know everything about you. They want to mine your emails, your photos, your contacts, your schedules, your contacts, your social interactions, your app usage, where your home is, your SSID, what you search for on the internet and the websites you visit, your personal documents, your business documents.

And they want to do all this for you, for free.

I'm doing a fairly good job confusing the algorithms though. The shit advertisements that are served up to me have precisely zero chance of ever getting clicked on.

RE: A whole lot of hoopla
By RufusM on 1/18/2013 6:06:25 PM , Rating: 2
And they want to do all this for you, for free.

Google doesn't take any information people aren't feeding it. If you don't want Google to mine your information, don't give it to them. Use another search engine, another email system, another mobile phone platform, etc, etc.

The fact is people derive value from Google's free services and in return Google gets paid by showing targeted ads. TV networks have been doing this for many years. Retail stores, grocery stores, etc. have been collecting information about you for years too in exchange for coupons and such.

I'm not sure why people are upset about this.

RE: A whole lot of hoopla
By messele on 1/19/2013 4:02:24 PM , Rating: 2
Yes that is precisely my solution to the problem.

Except I still have concerns of this issues it could cause for all of us, whether we use it or not, further down the line. I think for a single organisation to know so much about the collective could be benign but it could also have unforeseen consequences.

Much better to have several healthy competing businesses so the information is spread about a bit and each guardian of that information is blind to each of the others. In turn each of those organisations should not have *too* varied an interest in sectors outside of search / advertising.

For the record I also avoid loyalty card schemes, coupons and anything else that allows a single organisation to know "too much" about me.

RE: A whole lot of hoopla
By maugrimtr on 1/21/2013 9:27:12 AM , Rating: 2
Google is playing with fire and has lined themselves up for a huge lawsuit over giving away Android for free, hard to compete with free.

Android is released under an open source license. Also, giving away stuff for free is not illegal in any way, shape or form.

Microsoft compete with Linux which is free. Has any sued Mr Torvalds now that he's a US citizen? Oracle give away Java, VitualBox and MySQL for free. Are they being sued? Microsoft gives away a free antivirus suite as a I recall. They being sued by everyone???

"This is about the Internet.  Everything on the Internet is encrypted. This is not a BlackBerry-only issue. If they can't deal with the Internet, they should shut it off." -- RIM co-CEO Michael Lazaridis
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