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The number used to be 25,000 signatures

The White House recently increased the number of signatures needed on its "We the People" petition site from 25,000 to 100,000.

"We the People" is a website where users can create and apply online signatures to petitions. When the number of signatures on a petition exceeded 25,000, it will receive a comment from the White House.

When the site launched in 2011, only 5,000 signatures were needed. As the number of users grew, the number was raised to 25,000. Now, the site has grown even more and 100,000 is the new number to beat.

However, any petitions that were existing before the new 100,000 rule will remain under the 25,000 signature rule. As of right now, there are a little under 40 petitions that have passed the 25,000 signature mark.

Source: NBC News



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By kleinma on 1/17/2013 2:36:58 PM , Rating: 5
Shouldn't it be noted that the main reason is due to social media and the annoying influx of BS petitions that take up staff time to have to respond to for things like building a death star. There are probably some really legit causes that are being petitioned, and they are being drowned out by people who thinks its cool to try to get an official white house response on nonsense. I don't need my tax dollars to go towards paying govt employees to respond to stupid crap, enough is already being wasted.




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By frometa23 on 1/17/2013 2:52:20 PM , Rating: 5
On that note, let's petition that the requirement be lowered back to 25,000.


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By Mitch101 on 1/17/2013 3:33:59 PM , Rating: 2
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By RufusM on 1/18/2013 1:55:23 PM , Rating: 2
Awesome idea!

On that note, this whole idea is a joke and is just an attempt PR.

The is the same thing as those commercials with the local news team playing softball, visiting the hospital and kissing babies while the tag line is "We care!". (We even had one local TV station change their call letters to KARE...puke.)


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By mugiebahar on 1/18/2013 3:14:26 PM , Rating: 2
That's funny.i wonder f it will work lol


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By JPForums on 1/21/2013 8:08:52 AM , Rating: 2
I completely agree.
They've only had something like 40 petitions reach 25,000 signatures.
How much time does it really take to respond to them given their lame duck responses to many of them:
"We want you to consider changing the law." --> "No. It's against the law."
or
"We want you to investigate and enforce the law for this highly probable violation." --> "No. We are the executive branch, we don't enforce laws."

On the other hand, they never promise action, just a response. Neither did they promise an intelligent response. It seems the people below are correct. This whole site is just a tool for the administration to point to and say how "open" and "for the people" they are. Since %99+ of Americans have probably never actually seen the site, it'll probably work too.


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By MZperX on 1/22/2013 12:15:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
"No. We are the executive branch, we don't enforce laws."

Wait, what? The executive branch is supposed to enforce laws . What branch should, if not the executive? I hope you meant that as a stab at this administration's highly selective approach to law enforcement. Immigration laws? Naw. Defense of Marriage Act? Naw. Voter Intimidation a la Black Panthers? Fuggedaboutit. Government sponsored arms trafficking to Mexican drug cartels? Let's pretend it never happened... You get the picture.


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By bitterman0 on 1/17/2013 3:08:04 PM , Rating: 5
"We the People" site is a nice PR ploy, I'll give the current administration that. However, for the most part it seems to be rather useless. Case in point:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/investig...

To summarize the petition and the WH response at the above link: 31K+ people (the limit was 25K at the time) are asking to investigate public boasting of bribery of federal politicians - on national television, no less. The White House response: you are requesting a specific law enforcement action, and it is against our policy to entertain such requests.

At some point we, the people, will have to start wondering what will it take for our elected politicians to start listening to our voices again.


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By fic2 on 1/17/2013 3:40:20 PM , Rating: 3
The one I always come back to is the marijuana petition. Too lazy to look it up but, I believe, it was to take marijuana off the schedule 1 list (heroine, cocaine, meth) and use actual science instead of reefer madness for laws. The white house response (from the DEA): marijuana is against the law therefore it must be really bad. Don't do drugs.

I totally agree with bitterman0 - the "We the People" is a useless PR ploy.


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By Breathless on 1/17/2013 4:52:29 PM , Rating: 5
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Too lazy to look it up


This is inherent from your marijuana use :)


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By garagetinkerer on 1/18/2013 12:23:51 AM , Rating: 2
Lobbying from tobacco/ liqour industry would stop it. They stand to lose the most from it, and so i don't see why they would let it pass.


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By Ringold on 1/18/2013 3:47:16 AM , Rating: 1
The tobacco people should back it; they could get economies of scale at warp speed. They've perfected the business of selling things people can smoke at minimal cost, and they did so long before most people posting at DT were alive.

Brewers and whatnot, idk. I for one know plenty of people that love consuming both, so I don't see the connection.


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By headbox on 1/18/2013 4:42:33 AM , Rating: 2
False. They wouldn't make a penny because the people who grow & sell it are already growing and selling it. It's already cheap and abundant.


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By Strunf on 1/18/2013 8:34:51 AM , Rating: 3
Yes and no, sure they would get a big competition from local producers but they could make huge planting fields and maximize the return to the point that it would be cheaper to buy from them than produce your own cannabis.

Also cannabis may be cheap now cause it's not taxed or very little (medical one), most of the price of the tobacco is taxes, tax the cannabis like tobacco and cannabis will be more expensive.

I'm all to tax every smoker to mayhem, in a way that any health problems they have will be payed with the money from these taxes and not from everyone else.


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By maugrimtr on 1/18/2013 11:02:15 AM , Rating: 2
You're forgetting the influx of government regulations that would put small time sellers out of business and open the door for the tobacco industry to lobby (i.e. bribe politians) for dumb licensing requirements and other nonsense to raise economic barriers to new entrants who don't have a few Billion to spare.


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By Director12 on 1/17/2013 3:35:38 PM , Rating: 3
So now the government can ignore the wishes of even more people, they're such a great bunch!


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By retrospooty on 1/17/2013 4:02:57 PM , Rating: 2
I dunno... Of all the stupid s#$t our govt. does, this doesnt even make the top 25.


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By marvdmartian on 1/17/2013 4:29:36 PM , Rating: 2
Well, come on....be fair! There's only so much time to work, in the next 4 years, and they're already pretty busy telling us how to run our lives, and taking away our rights! Why spend time on frivolous things??


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By Manch on 1/17/2013 4:52:42 PM , Rating: 2
I saw a lot if BS petitions when I was on there. I did start one myself though just to see if it would get any supt. I put one up to set term limits for congress.


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By Ringold on 1/18/2013 3:52:42 AM , Rating: 2
If that failed, then you know how useless the website is. I've never seen polling on the issue that I remember, but I bet 1/3 the country, easy, would support that idea.

I'm not even convinced of the merits of it myself, but just met a lot of people that like that idea. Especially common with the over 60 crowd; maybe some echo's of people worrying if Roosevelt was going to just crown himself Lord and Protector, Defender of the Faith, King Roosevelt of the United States, since he'd already rode rough-shod over the Supreme Court.


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By Ammohunt on 1/17/2013 5:51:10 PM , Rating: 2
Are you actually naive enough to believe these petitions influence the current administration in anyway other than a few chuckles around the office that administrates this site?


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By kleinma on 1/17/2013 7:19:20 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think so no. But certain ones, given the right conditions might get enough media attention to actually bring certain things into the spotlight. Unfortunately since the media sucks, they report on the nonsense ones. Even that said, I just assume cut the program all together, because as you said, its a waste of time, money, and resources.


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