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That brings the grand total to four problems in one week

Boeing's 787 Dreamliner has been anything but a dream this week. The jet, which already experienced two serious issues earlier in the week, suffered another two problems today.

It was discovered that a 787 Dreamliner with All Nippon Airways (ANA), which had arrived at the Matsuyama airport in western Japan from Tokyo on Friday, developed a web-like crack in the cockpit window. The pilot found it about 70 minutes into the flight, but no one was injured.

In a separate incident on Friday, but also with ANA, another 787 Dreamliner had an oil leak after traveling to the Miyazaki airport in southern Japan. It is unclear how much oil had leaked.

The 787 Dreamliners are fairly new jets, only having made their first domestic flight in November of last year after several delays. Hence, it's common for issues like these to arise. However, having four problems in just one week's time could make passengers wary of the jets' safety.

On Monday, a 787 operated by Japan Airlines had experienced an electrical fire at Boston's Logan International Airport after coming in from Tokyo. According to the National Transportation Safety Board, a battery in the auxiliary power unit suffered severe fire damage.

Just one day later, a Boeing 787 operated by the same airline at the same airport suffered a fuel leak. The fuel leak was discovered at 12:25 p.m. ET right after the 787 left the gate for a trip to Tokyo. The flight was cancelled, and the plane was towed back to the gate where passengers were instructed to exit and stay in the airport. No one was injured.

As it turns out, about 40 gallons of fuel had leaked from the 787. The plane ended up being delayed four hours before leaving for Tokyo.

The 787 Dreamliner is an efficient airplane made of lightweight carbon composites, which features a whole new passenger experience with dimmable windows, LED lights, reclining business class seats and even higher humidity. These lighter materials mean airlines can use less fuel. The Dreamliners have 36 first-class seats, 70 premium-economy seats and 113 economy seats. United said it ordered 50 787s.

The 787 Dreamliner was delayed for years before this official debut, mainly due to manufacturing and cost-related issues. Delays have dated back as far as 2008.

The first 787 Dreamliner made its maiden flight in December 2009.

Source: Reuters

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By Amiga500 on 1/11/2013 12:20:54 PM , Rating: 5
Its a new aircraft, niggles happen.

Its unfair on Boeing to expect any different. It was the same with A380, it will be the same with A350 (and the others).

I am more concerned with other specific things that have not happened yet (thankfully). Hopefully they won't either.

RE: Meh.
By Gondor on 1/11/2013 1:13:13 PM , Rating: 2
How comes there are so many problems experienced by the Japanese users ? Did they get the first batch of planes (meaning nobody else has one yet and therefore couldn't spot any problems developing)or is it something these companies are doing that is causing all these issues to pop up ?

RE: Meh.
By lennylim on 1/11/2013 3:14:15 PM , Rating: 2
24 of 49 deliveries so far (according to Wikipedia) went to JAL and ANA.

RE: Meh.
By Nortel on 1/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: Meh.
By euler007 on 1/11/2013 2:24:12 PM , Rating: 3
There's nothing stupid about having specialized manufacturing companies build parts and ship them to an assembly plant. That's how every other planes and cars are made.

RE: Meh.
By othercents on 1/11/2013 4:22:38 PM , Rating: 2
The A380 is similar since parts are built all over the EU, however the difference is that they ship using barges and freighters. They don't have one of these (or 4 of them like Boeing):

We are in a global economy and buying certain parts from a country that specializes in building those parts is not only a good idea, but good for business especially if the final outcome is a better aircraft.

RE: Meh.
By agr on 1/12/2013 1:03:55 PM , Rating: 3
RE: Meh.
By tamalero on 1/14/2013 11:52:29 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder if there will be a beluga A380.
can you imagine the size of that thing?

RE: Meh.
By Amiga500 on 1/12/2013 1:56:09 PM , Rating: 2
Having all these subcontracted out and assembling them all is such a mind boggling excercise in stupidity it's a wonder the plane even flies.

While I agree with part of what you are saying, having components made by suppliers has always been the case.

Be it engines, instruments or sensors... all have traditionally been made by companies other than the airframer.

RE: Meh.
By jtemplin on 1/13/2013 7:13:48 PM , Rating: 2
Thanks to finite element analysis and interchangeable parts, what you describe as an exercise in stupidity is quite the opposite. Many would say specialized division of labor contributes to the quality of product. Simplifying the production line reduces error.

RE: Meh.
By tamalero on 1/14/2013 11:50:19 PM , Rating: 2
still, that didnt stop the boeing patriotic fans from bashing the A380 when there were issues with its engines and other stuff.
it gets annoying to see the "if it isnt boeing, I aint going" fanboys in every airline video in youtube and other sites.

Not that new...
By GrouchoBRD on 1/11/2013 1:16:10 PM , Rating: 3
a whole new passenger experience with ... reclining business class seats.

Is this out of a press release from the 1930s? ;-)

RE: Not that new...
By lennylim on 1/11/2013 3:12:33 PM , Rating: 2
The author left out "fully". Fully reclining business class seats existed before the 787, I believe, but are fairly uncommon.

RE: Not that new...
By GrouchoBRD on 1/11/2013 3:22:24 PM , Rating: 2
are fairly uncommon

Hmm, they're not uncommon either -- besides which, seats are up to the airline's discretion and aren't part of the "standard" features of a plane.

Oil and window
By toyotabedzrock on 1/11/2013 5:25:17 PM , Rating: 2
Those seem more like minor issues that every jet has happen eventually.

But with the other problems, Boeing I hope has learned its lesson on outsourcing.

RE: Oil and window
By chick0n on 1/13/2013 5:22:20 AM , Rating: 2
has nothing to do with outsourcing, not a single company can create everything, it has to be out sourced one way or another.

you can blame all you want, but thats just how it works and as much as u love us-a, its still gonna happen.

More Issues Unreported
By ualbob on 1/11/2013 5:30:12 PM , Rating: 2
Was on a United "Dreamliner" flight on Jan. 10 from EWR to Houston. Flight was cancelled after a two hour delay in which the plane had already begun to taxi for takeoff, the announcements were that an unknown electrical problem was ocurring. Other passengers commented that they saw smoke over the right wing. Interestingly enough the same air craft was seen still being worked on in EWR the next morning Jan. 11

By Nfarce on 1/14/2013 9:11:17 PM , Rating: 2
The 787 Dreamliners are fairly new jets, only having made their first domestic flight in November of last year after several delays.

So if the '78 is "only" a "fairly new" airliner being in the air two months commercially, what defines a "brand new" airliner?

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