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Lenovo's Horizon will start at $1,700

We have seen large, multi-touch table PC concepts in the past from companies like Microsoft. More recently, we've seen Sony tackle the sector with the Vaio Tap 20.
 
Now, Lenovo is looking to expand its presence in your living room with the 27" IdeaCentre Horizon Table PC. The Horizon can lay on a flat surface (like a table or floor) where multiple users can gather around and interact with the touch interface.
 
Horizon supports simultaneous 10-finger touch, and even comes with a few cool peripherals to use including E-dice for card-based games and four joysticks (Lenovo currently has backing from Electronic Arts and Ubisoft for games with Horizon support).

 
When not being used in table mode, the Horizon can easily convert into a regular 27" desktop PC (1920x1080 resolution).
 
The Horizon runs Windows 8 Pro, packs in a third-generation Intel Core i7 processor, up to a NVIDIA GeForce GT 620M graphics card with 1GB of memory, up to 8GB of DDR3 memory, and up to a 1TB HDD. A 64GB SSD can be optionally added. Other features include stereo speakers with Dolby Home Theater v4, Bluetooth and 802.11n, 720p webcam, 6-in-1 media reader, and USB 3.0 support.

 
Thankfully, the Horizon includes an integrated battery so that families can gather around and interact with the device and not trip over wires. However, don't expect to go cordless for too long -- the integrated battery is only good for a maximum of two hours before you have to go scrambling to find the power cord.
 
“We've seen technology shifts across the four screens, from the desktop to the laptop, tablet and smartphone, and yet, while people have more computing power than ever before, there is still room for technologies like Horizon that bring people together," said Peter Hortensius, president, Product Group, Lenovo. "Horizon makes personal computing interpersonal computing with shared, collaborative experiences among several people,”

 
Lenovo's Horizon Table PC will not launch until early summer, and will feature a price tag starting at $1,699.


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RE: Wow... just wow
By Pirks on 1/7/2013 2:14:23 AM , Rating: 2
What? $650? You don't know sh1t about the subject. Let me tell you about REAL world, ok? First, Clover Trail tablets start from $580 on newegg, second, iPad with less storage is more expensive, third, iPad games still suck if you compare them with heavy hitters on RT, like Vendetta Online, fourth, those Clover Trail tablets have same or better battery life compared to iPad, while providing better HD video viewing experience due to proper aspect ratio, especially on Surface. I compare those new Win 8 and Win RT tablets with iPad all the time because a lot of people ask me for recommendation when buying new hardware. After watching how tablets developed past couple of years I understood that tablets are where the money is, not the netbooks. MS is doing the right thing chasing high profit markets and leaving zero profit markets to Google, after all they make money selling stuff while Google can only compete on price, not on quality. Dropping netbook is the right thing, financially wise. Let Google have this market, because Google does not need any profit selling quality hardware, they are better off selling cheap crap.


RE: Wow... just wow
By TakinYourPoints on 1/7/2013 3:23:02 AM , Rating: 1
The few available ones I've found have been Acer's at $650 with the keyboard dock and HP's Envy x2 for $850, $300 more than most tablets or low-end notebooks.

Also, Vendetta Online is a third-rate EVE Online, I've played it. Give me a break, it isn't even up to snuff with Sentinel 3 or Galaxy On Fire 2, let alone better iOS games like Autumn Dynasty or Battle Of The Bulge (current fave). The selection and quality of iOS games are absolutely second to none in touchscreen mobile, which makes sense given how many developers it has. You're telling me that VO is better than what Epic, Crytek, or numerous others like PlayDek or Days Of Wonder are releasing? Ok.

And if we're playing normal Windows games then I'd rather do it on something beefier than a Clover Trail. I'll stick with my mobile i7 for that.

The important point though, which you keep on missing, is that Clover Trail tablets won't sell as well as the "cheap crap" (as you like to call it) simply because the same customers Microsoft and OEMs have targeted for years are used to paying less. Now they're being asked to spend more for 10" touchscreen hardware.

If someone has a choice between a Clover Trail tablet or a 15" laptop (low quality as it may be) that only costs $500, both running Windows 8 , what do you most are going to buy?

Tablet sales won't improve until prices for touchscreen and mobile components are driven down over time, and this is only because a segment of customers hate the (IMO completely justified) price of those products. Proof will be in sales numbers and all the forum complaints of high pricing.


RE: Wow... just wow
By Pirks on 1/7/2013 7:02:44 PM , Rating: 2
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The few available ones I've found have been Acer's at $650 with the keyboard dock and HP's Envy x2 for $850, $300 more than most tablets or low-end notebooks
Your opinion doesn't matter because there is a hard cold FACT of existence of a $500 Clover Trail tablet: http://detonator.dynamitedata.com/cgi-bin/redirect...

Your attempts at pretending those $500 Clover Trail tablets don't exits are futile, please stop pretending, ok?

What is Crytek making for iPad? Crysis?! LOL. Are you serious?

And I don't think your comparison of RTS and other genres versus VO which is space sim is anywhere near correct. There's still VO for RT and no VO for iOS. GoF 2 kinda compensates for that, I agree, but still... having decent tablet games for Android and RT but NOT iOS is telling.
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the same customers Microsoft and OEMs have targeted for years are used to paying less
These customers defect to Google en masse, why chase them? Let Google have the poor non-paying customers who will watch ads, while MS has a slice of rich customers formerly belonging to Apple. More profit to MS this way.
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If someone has a choice between a Clover Trail tablet or a 15" laptop that only costs $500, both running Windows 8, what do you think most are going to buy?
Big heavy laptop with 3 hours of battery life of small light tablet with 9 hour of battery life? That's a tough choice LOL. Of course most people would go for a tablet, since it's just as good for office/mail/web/video/casual gaming as a heavier laptop.
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Tablet sales won't improve until prices for touchscreen and mobile components are driven down over time
iPhone sales did't improve either until prices for them were driven from $600 down to $200 over time. Same for iPad which started to sell better when they made crappier/cheaper mini version. So what's your point then? Are you just captain obvious or what? You state obvious things everybody here would agree with.

OK that was a compliment :)))


RE: Wow... just wow
By TakinYourPoints on 1/9/2013 12:31:23 AM , Rating: 2
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These customers defect to Google en masse, why chase them? Let Google have the poor non-paying customers who will watch ads, while MS has a slice of rich customers formerly belonging to Apple. More profit to MS this way.


No, it means less profit to MS this way. Moving Windows licenses is the main thing that matters to them, not selling fewer tablets. If they give the low end away to Google then they're basically throwing away the hardware platform that got Windows 7 sales going at a staggering 20 million units per month.

Don't you get it? This isn't rocket science.

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Big heavy laptop with 3 hours of battery life of small light tablet with 9 hour of battery life? That's a tough choice LOL. Of course most people would go for a tablet, since it's just as good for office/mail/web/video/casual gaming as a heavier laptop.


The tablet also costs more. This isn't a userbase that is concerned with quality, if they did then low cost laptops and netbooks wouldn't have sold well in the first place.

People in shops and all over user forums complain about tablet prices while bragging about some garbage $400 notebook they bought that can "do more" because it has a bad keyboard and a "real" OS. This isn't changing anytime soon, not when so many customers at the low end have been trained to know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

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Same for iPad which started to sell better when they made crappier/cheaper mini version.


The iPad sold over 100 million units as of last year. It is as big a consumer electronics blockbuster as can be expected. Bigger than consoles and bigger/more profitable than the PC market. The iPad mini is gravy.


RE: Wow... just wow
By TakinYourPoints on 1/7/2013 3:27:12 AM , Rating: 1
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while providing better HD video viewing experience due to proper aspect ratio, especially on Surface.


16:9 is crap on 23" desktop monitors, it is crap on 13" notebooks, and it is crap on 10" and 7" screens. More vertical room in landscape mode is better for web browsing and applications, not less.

If all you do is watch video then I guess its fine, but unless I'm on a 27" 1440p desktop monitor then I want nothing to do with 16:9.


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