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Oregon drivers getting at least 55 MPG may have to pay a driving tax

Everyone who drives a gasoline or diesel powered vehicle on the streets in the United States pays taxes that go towards keeping the roads around the country and within your local community in good condition. We pay these taxes at the pump when we buy fuel.
 
However, one of the side effects to the Obama administration's push to get Americans to buy more fuel-efficient electric or hybrid vehicles is that the amount of money raised in fuel taxes by states is decreasing. The Oregon state legislature is reportedly considering a bill that would require drivers of vehicles getting at least 55 mpg to pay a tax on each mile driven after 2015.
 
The bill would also give drivers the option of paying a flat tax amount annually. Currently, taxes on fuel within the state of Oregon are 30 cents per gallon.

“Everybody uses the road and if some pay and some don’t then that’s an unfair situation that’s got to be resolved,” said Jim Whitty, manager of the Oregon Department of Transportation’s Office of Innovative Partnerships and Alternative Funding.

Oregon isn't the only state considering charging drivers of fuel-efficient vehicles attacks on the miles they drive; Nevada and Washington are also looking at per mile charges. Drivers of electric vehicles in Washington will begin paying an annual fee in March.

Automotive manufacturers and dealers see this proposed per mile tax as a significant hindrance to the mass adoption of hybrid and fully-electric vehicles.

Sources: Statesman Journal, Southern California Public Radio



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But will they let you charge your own car?
By C64Dude on 1/4/2013 10:58:07 AM , Rating: 2
In Oregon you still can't pump your own gas. When visit I still forget when I fill up.




RE: But will they let you charge your own car?
By Nutzo on 1/4/2013 11:15:27 AM , Rating: 2
Ran into that a few months ago when I passed through Oregon.

I also see a large market for cars getting 54MPG :)


RE: But will they let you charge your own car?
By menting on 1/4/2013 11:20:25 AM , Rating: 2
They'll soon jerry rig the cars to do worse during EPA tests.

I envision ads that will say. EPA 40/54 MPG, but regular driving habits will get you 45/60 MPG.


RE: But will they let you charge your own car?
By menting on 1/4/2013 11:27:23 AM , Rating: 2
load the car up with 5 350lb guys when conducting the EPA test and fill the trunk with bricks.
I'm pretty sure neither the EPA nor the consumer won't complain when the car does better than the EPA ratings in the real world. It's only false advertising if you dont meet to exceed ratings.


RE: But will they let you charge your own car?
By Motoman on 1/4/2013 11:28:43 AM , Rating: 2
...but it would be illegal if you were faking the numbers to avoid a tax.


RE: But will they let you charge your own car?
By menting on 1/4/2013 11:31:43 AM , Rating: 2
they're not avoiding a tax, as the tax is taxed on the consumer, not the manufacturer.

And who said it's faking the numbers? It's actual numbers, just instead of measuring at a best case scenario as what most manufacturers are doing right now, you're measuring it at a worst case scenario.


RE: But will they let you charge your own car?
By ebakke on 1/4/2013 12:08:36 PM , Rating: 2
This is an amusing exercise, but surely if manufacturers started doing any of this the politicians would just change the laws to accommodate.


RE: But will they let you charge your own car?
By menting on 1/4/2013 12:25:52 PM , Rating: 2
it will need to be done at the federal level, and even if they specify the exact terms on how to conduct an EPA test, all manufacturers have to do is to lock up efficiency of the engine, and sell them as addons. Sort of like selling firmware for the car's computer to change engine characteristics right now. There is no easy way to charge this tax IF (that's a big IF )the manufacturers are on the consumer's side


RE: But will they let you charge your own car?
By ebakke on 1/4/2013 12:50:12 PM , Rating: 2
Why couldn't the state just perform its own test? "The tax will be calculated using the following formula...." We're assuming they'd use the EPA numbers, but there's nothing requiring them to do so.


RE: But will they let you charge your own car?
By menting on 1/4/2013 3:57:22 PM , Rating: 2
they can, but I can totally see a mess when consumers buy for example a EPA 50MPG car, but the state tests it at 55MPG, therefore being able to tax the consumer the mileage tax. There will be tons of complaints and rumors of the state inflating numbers for more revenue, etc.
You can always make more laws, but the more you make, the less that tax makes it worthwhile to implment, and there will always be new ways around it too.


By ebakke on 1/4/2013 4:20:53 PM , Rating: 2
When has that ever stopped the lawmakers?! :) They have hammers and they are in the business of finding nails.


By 91TTZ on 1/4/2013 12:49:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
but it would be illegal if you were faking the numbers to avoid a tax.


They wouldn't have to fake the numbers, they could actually tweak the ECU programming to ensure that it gets those numbers.


By ianweck on 1/4/2013 11:32:51 AM , Rating: 2
This took me a long time to get used to. It's nice on a cold winter day, but annoying when you hear the "click" of the handle and have to sit until the attendant can get to you. Regarding charging your own cars, the Fred Meyers where I live (local one-stop shopping store) has car charging taking up prime parking spots. I see cars plugged in but no one working the chargers, so I assume it's self-serve.


By tdktank59 on 1/4/2013 11:58:02 AM , Rating: 2
Unless your a diesel vehicle. They can pump their own. Something to do with truckers and what not.


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