Judge Koh Forces Samsung to Make Unit Sales Public in Apple Infringement Case
January 2, 2013 1:22 PM
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Samsung says release damages it competitively; federal judge says "too bad", sides with local firm, Apple
While Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (
) and Apple, Inc. (
) are still preparing to
square off for a second major patent infringement case
, both companies are also actively engrossed in battling over damages in the first case, which saw Apple found innocent of infringement and Samsung guilty of
$1.05B USD in willful infringement
U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California
Judge Lucy Koh
gave Samsung a bit of a boost in December when she
rejected Apple's request to ban sales
of 26 Samsung "Galaxy" products, writing that Apple failed to prove that Samsung's infringement drove the demand for Samsung products.
But she's still in the process of finalizing how much Samsung should have to pay Apple.
And this week she dealt Samsung a blow,
a request by Samsung to seal the results of a Dec. 10 request she made to Samsung. Judge Koh had asked Samsung last month to reveal unit sales of certain products over certain time periods. It is unknown what models precisely were requested, but they likely included the Galaxy S and Galaxy S II smartphones -- centerpieces of Apple's first infringement case against Samsung.
Samsung had pleaded with Judge Koh to keep those details out of the public eye, arguing that it would damage it from a competitive perspective. Judge Koh had little sympathy for the South Korean electronics company, though, siding with local firm Apple, who argued the information should be made public regardless of the damage to its rival.
Apple is pushing Judge Koh to
triple the damages
to over $3B USD, which can be done in certain cases if the infringement was deemed "willful". Samsung, meanwhile, is urging Judge Koh to trim the settlement, pointing out that the
U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
has filed preliminary invalidation rulings regarding
two of the
key Apple utility patents
involved in the case.
Thus at this point damages could go in any direction. For now all that is clear is that we'll soon be learning some new information on Samsung sales and that for now no Samsung products are banned.
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RE: Glad to see it
1/3/2013 7:45:36 AM
"Learn your history"
If you did, you would know that the Apple Newton and Palm Pilot both copied the earlier Psion product (The first PDA)... But that doesn't change my point, in fact it underlines it. ALL companies build off the ideas of others. Apple has a long history of copying other companies products and again, there is nothing wrong with that.
"it took years before the competition caught up with the original iPhone's UI snappiness"
It did. The initial iPhone was a huge homerun. Apple's reward for making that hit product was record profits. Now they have been caught up with and surpassed and they are suing instead of going back to innovating. THAT is the problem here.
RE: Glad to see it
1/3/2013 9:43:09 AM
And if you knew your history, you'd know that every technology the world uses came from the United States.
RE: Glad to see it
1/3/2013 10:27:23 AM
This helps my point that all companies copy and its OK. Thanks.
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