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Samsung aims high for 2013

With the final days of 2012 upon us, many companies are looking forward to “great success” in 2013. Samsung is expecting to sell 510 million mobile phones next year, which would represent a 20 percent rise compared to 2012.

Of the 510 million mobile phones it expects to sell, 390 million will be smartphones with the remainder coming from the sale of feature/budget phones.

"There are some possibilities that smartphone demand will slow in general. But we are seeing new demand for devices using Long Term Evolution (LTE),'' said Kim Hyun-joon, an executive at Samsung's telecommunications division."

Samsung also announced that it intends to build 240 million devices at its Vietnamese factory, 170 million devices in China, 20 million in India, and 40 million devices at its Korean factory. Samsung also plans to spend $2.2 billion upgrading handset factories in Vietnam by 2020 to boost output.

"By offering better pricing to consumers in developing nations, we will find new growth. This will also enable consumers in developed nations like North America and Europe to buy our LTE devices at more affordable prices,'' said a Samsung official.

Analysts are predicting that Samsung will dethrone Nokia to become the top handset shipper in the world for 2012. Nokia has held that title for 14 years. 

Source: Korea Times

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RE: A tale of two cities
By retrospooty on 12/28/2012 7:55:59 AM , Rating: 2
You replied directly to my post talking about 1080p screens on newer devices then replied with your same old tired line about the GS3 screen... But whatever. Let's not pretend this debate started in this thread. Every time it is mentioned that Android phones have better screens you bring out the specs of the GS3 as if that is the only Android, or even the highest end Android around. Its 7 months old now, get past it.

RE: A tale of two cities
By TakinYourPoints on 12/28/2012 5:40:56 PM , Rating: 2
You replied directly to my post talking about 1080p screens on newer devices then replied with your same old tired line about the GS3 screen

Nope! I was responding to Nortel's post on Samsung cutting so many corners yet still charging a high end premium for their devices. He mentioned build quality (which sucks) and I brought up the display. I also mentioned HTC and Motorola's superior screens before you mentioned other phones with 1080p displays!

Your post came in after I talked about the GS3 screen (relevant here) and praised other Android hardware before you brought up 1080p on other phones.

I'll say it again, relax and quit sperging out. You skim over my posts so you can ignore the positive things I say so that you can repeat the same points I made yourself.

I talk about how good HTC displays are and you're like "WHY U IGNORE OTHER GOOD PHONES LIKE HTC". Hilarious!

Back on the topic of Samsung, the fact that a GS3 costs the same as an iPhone 5 and was priced the same as the old iPhone 4S is absolutely ridiculous. They are way overcharging based on the inferior screen, inferior build quality, and slower hardware. Oh, and TouchWiz. :p

RE: A tale of two cities
By retrospooty on 12/28/2012 8:29:31 PM , Rating: 2
OK, ill give you that. Initially this particular thread was about Samsung and I was partially having the same debate we always have where you use the GS3 as the primary example of Android screens and ignore the others.

Anyhow I mentioned the latest 5 inch 1080p screens like the Droid DNS, the Oppo, and hte other one linked above and you mentioned HTC's one X briefly. So... Now the iPhone is stuck at 1136x640 and everyone else is at 1920x1080. I was lookin for your take on how far behind Apple is on that front and you sort of skirted it.

Beyond that, I am wondering what Apple will do. Their approach to LCD scaling leaves them little choice. What are they going to do go 2272x1280 ?

RE: A tale of two cities
By TakinYourPoints on 12/29/2012 5:51:19 AM , Rating: 2
I didn't skirt that issue at all. Resolution isn't an advantage with Android because the iPhone has among the highest pixel densities out there.

This is an issue with display size, and that comes down to personal ergonomic preference. Other phones get 1080p screens because they are huge and can accommodate it.

The iPhone's size is designed around reaching the entire screen with one thumb without readjustments. It is a choice based in logical design and practical ergonomics, not bulletpoint features. Display size cannot be used as an example of a technical deficiency.

If you're fine with two handed operation or a huge phone then clearly those larger devices work for you.

Either way, it isn't a technical disadvantage given that the iPhone has one of the highest quality displays out there. Resolution is a constraint defined by physical size, and going larger would be a disadvantage and a regression for many users.

Anyhow I mentioned the latest 5 inch 1080p screens like the Droid DNS, the Oppo, and hte other one linked above and you mentioned HTC's one X briefly

I mentioned the One X up myself before you brought any of that stuff up in this thread. Your thread revisionism is annoying.

What are they going to do go 2272x1280 ?

Completely pointless given that individual pixels at that PPI and viewing distance already cannot be discerned by the naked eye.

RE: A tale of two cities
By retrospooty on 12/29/2012 7:58:19 AM , Rating: 2
I disagree that Apple is among the highest anymore. The 1080p androids have well over 430ppi and Apple is in the 320s somehwere (correct me if I am wrong). So its not "among" the highest any longer, but I do agree it's high enough if the iPhone remains a tiny 4 inch screen.

Most people do see it as a disadvantage. "you mean this screen is bigger, and has vastly higher resolution and pixel density". It's a hard sell, but OK. If you like a small phone that is missing alot of features Apple is still a good quality product with a great app ecosystem. IT does seem alot like you have to go farther and farther to "excuse" Apple's shortcomings with every generation that comes out. That and right now, the iPhone5 is brand new. Thinking about 6 months from now and wondering how far behind Apple will be and when they will finally bite the bullet and go larger.

RE: A tale of two cities
By Piiman on 12/29/2012 7:24:25 PM , Rating: 2
While you claim the build sucks I'd disagree. Sure the back is plastic but when it is put togeather it fits the hand nicly, doesn't feel cheap and isn't flimsy. There are also advantages to the plastic back which I'm sure you are aware of. Heck those super built iPhones are arriving out of the box all sratched up. Nice build there.

As for the pricing they have more options built in than your beloved Apple iphone which charges the same, so how are they over charging? Because you don't need those other options so you think they should be free?

And since most people buy these phones on contract they are the same price!


RE: A tale of two cities
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/30/2012 9:11:20 AM , Rating: 2
If you haven't noticed by now, he thinks his opinions are more valuable than others and that somehow they are more valid then everyone else.

He always has to have the last word as well...

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