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Former CEO defends Google using Caribbean tax shelter

While Q3 smartphone sales numbers are slightly deceptive as the much-anticipated Apple, Inc. (AAPLiPhone 5 was yet to launch, it's hard to deny that Google Inc. (GOOG) brightly outpaced its rival in unit sales, with Google's Android taking 72 percent of the market, versus a mere 14 percent for Apple.  In a new interview, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt says that equated to 1.3 million Android smartphones activated a day, a key to Google outselling its rival 5-to-1.

I. Google v. Apple == Microsoft v. Apple Computer?

He compares his company's war against Apple to Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) successful campaign against Apple Computer back in the 1980s and 1990s.  He remarks to Bloomberg, "This is a huge platform change; this is of the scale of 20 years ago -- Microsoft versus Apple.  We’re winning that war pretty clearly now."

To Eric Schmidt, the sales triumph is vindication of Google's decision to give away Android to third party OEMs, versus Apple's policy of zealously possessive in-house efforts.  Comments Mr. Schmidt, "The core strategy is to make a bigger pie.  We will end up with a not perfectly controlled and not perfectly managed bigger pie by virtue of open systems."

Eric Schmidt
Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt claims Apple is repeating its own painful history.
[Image Source: The Sydney Morning Herald]

As for his company's and the general economy's outlook, he says he sees signs for optimism in the Chinese recovery.  But he warns that the so-called "fiscal cliff" -- a series of automatic tax increases and spending cuts -- could kill a similar emerging recovery in the U.S.

He warns, "It will be tragic for the country if the sum of the government can’t resolve this.  You can think of what’s going on as one set of special interests versus another, and a big fight and they all have to feel like they’ve been heard."

He sees Europe as another soft spot, saying that region will struggle to recover as southern nations like Spain, Italy, and Greece dangle on the edge of financial insolvency.

II. Schmidt on Gov't Regulation, Taxes

Mr. Schmidt defends his company's decision to shuffle $9.8B USD to a shell company in Bermuda to escape $2B USD in taxes from countries like the U.S., UK, France, and Australia.  

He comments, "We pay lots of taxes; we pay them in the legally prescribed ways.  I am very proud of the structure that we set up. We did it based on the incentives that the governments offered us to operate.  It’s called capitalism.  We are proudly capitalistic. I’m not confused about this."

Gimme Shelter
Schmidt says nothing's wrong with Google using a tax shelter. [Image Source: Hook Worldwide]

On the topic of spectrum crunch, which AT&T, Inc. (T) and others have bemoaned, Mr. Schmidt says it is a real problem, but that smart antennas may be able to help.  He comments, "[True] all the modeling says the existing strategy will run out of cellular bandwidth in 2016 or 2017.  [But] today you get dedicated bandwidth on your phone, and your phone doesn’t say, ’Ah ha! I can go over here or over up here.’ Smart radios can do that."

Google+ was also plugged by the former chief executive, which calls a "viable competitor to Facebook", thanks to its 100 million active users.

Source: Bloomberg



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RE: Uncle Eric lost in the Hall of Mirrors
By nocturne on 12/14/2012 1:45:25 AM , Rating: 3
Tony's argument..

Android overcomes Apple 3-2.. Apple is winning. Android sells 5-2.. Apple is still winning. Android pounds them down to 5-1.. and somehow, Apple is still winning.

I'll have some of what he's having..


By xype on 12/14/2012 3:14:27 AM , Rating: 2
Compared to Google, Apple IS winning. Compared to Android, iOS is perhaps not, but that battle is far from over. Does that actually help Google in any way?

Samsung is making a profit with Android, not Google. I have yet to see an example in history where a company not earning money was a good thing in the long run.

And before anyone tells me how much more money Google _will_ make with ads once everything is said and done—wouldn’t they have to make that money by now? They’re ahead of iOS, are the not? When is that grand scheme going to start to pay off for them?

Larry Page said "I think we're in the early stages of monetization. The fact that a phone has a location is really helpful for monetization." not long ago—so, when is it going to start mattering?


RE: Uncle Eric lost in the Hall of Mirrors
By retrospooty on 12/14/2012 8:55:46 AM , Rating: 2
I think Tony actually gets the concept of investment and that Android inst the same model as the world is used to and that it will pay off massively in the future. He is fairly bright so he cant possibly miss all that he seems to be missing. He just specifically tries to skew things toward Apple... For whatever reason.


RE: Uncle Eric lost in the Hall of Mirrors
By Pirks on 12/14/2012 12:39:35 PM , Rating: 2
He doesn't skew, he just points out cold hard facts. Like the fact that Google is still not making money from Android, and who knows when they will and if they will. Well, of course, people with less intelligence than him, like you and Mick, the guys who "predicted" sale of RIM this year, these kind of guys won't comprehend this logic. Too hard to understand for them.


RE: Uncle Eric lost in the Hall of Mirrors
By Rukkian on 12/14/2012 4:43:45 PM , Rating: 2
I am not saying you are wrong, but afaik, there have been no financial reports from google saying the are loosing money from Android. They may be, they may not be, hard to tell at this point. There are many indirect ways they could be making money.

I would like to see some hard financial data (not from an apple tard website) showing they are loosing money. Are they making less than apple, sure - but that only really effects stock holders. As an end user, I like the company that I buy products from not raping me just to make a few extras bucks for their coffers.

As long as Android stays relevent (no evidence it will go away any time soon), and continues to completely out-innovate apple, sooner or later all but the complete itards of the world will probably come around imo.


By retrospooty on 12/14/2012 5:31:08 PM , Rating: 1
Exactly... Google plans are beyond Tony. They dont inform him nor do they care LOL. As if everything in business makes money the 1st few years anyhow. It's called investment. You put in now to get back later. Outselling the next closest competitor 2.5 to 1 in 2011 with an inferior product (Android 2.3x). Now in 2012 its 5 to 1 . Now that they have surpassed Apple with a better OS, the gap will grow, and grow. Especially with Apple stagnating on the innovation front. Google is firing on all pistons these days and Apple is just milking their previous achievements.


RE: Uncle Eric lost in the Hall of Mirrors
By retrospooty on 12/14/2012 5:25:28 PM , Rating: 2
Coming from you it means nothing. Your mentally 12.


RE: Uncle Eric lost in the Hall of Mirrors
By Pirks on 12/14/2012 9:32:36 PM , Rating: 1
haha, nice to hear that from pussy who trolled RIM and lied to everyone that it's going to be sold this year. troll me more, whiny pussy hehe. like your funny whining about RIM "losing" (or Apple "losing" or anyone else "losing") means anything in real life.


RE: Uncle Eric lost in the Hall of Mirrors
By retrospooty on 12/15/2012 4:10:06 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, OK, I was wrong, maybe 11.

As you well know, they DID try to sell it but couldn't find a buyer but whatever. It has nothing to do with anything here. AS anyone would clearly look at this thread and see that you are trolling me ya nitwit.


By Pirks on 12/24/2012 6:41:18 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
they DID try to sell it
proof?


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