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Different reports say different things about demand for Windows 8 touch devices

How are Windows 8-based touch PCs faring since their October launch? I guess it depends on whom you ask.

A new report from CNET said that PC makers are trying to meet demand for the Windows 8 laptops, tablets and hybrid convertibles, and stores are having trouble keeping them on the shelves. However, a report from The Seattle Times offers a very different point of view. 

CNET spoke with two different analysts on the topic, including Bob O'Donnell from IDC and Rhoda Alexander from IHS iSuppli. Both stated that vendors are having a hard time meeting customer demand for Windows 8 touchscreen PCs, and may even have shortages in the near future. 

"We've talked to a number of PC makers that are having trouble obtaining touch panels and some of the vendors I've talked to said they can't keep them on the shelf," said Alexander. 

O'Donnell made sure to add that non-touch Windows 8 PCs are not doing quite as well, though. This is only based on touchscreen devices. 

The Seattle Times had a very different report. It said that the low availability of Windows 8-powered tablet devices has led to decreased customer demand, and obviously sales. 

According to The Seattle Times, only five Windows 8 tablets out of a dozen that were announced are available on the market. Two of them, including Microsoft's own Surface and an Acer tablet, are only available at the Microsoft Store. Currently, there are only about 60 of those. 

This short reach has been affecting demand and sales of the tablets, it said. The Seattle Times also spoke with an analyst to get an idea of what's going on with Microsoft's latest addition, and the feedback wasn't too positive.

Wes Miller, an analyst at Directions, said that Microsoft has been hush-hush about its sales numbers, and that is never an encouraging sign. 

While The Seattle Times doesn't seem to think that Windows 8 devices will combat the likes of Apple's iPad anytime soon, this isn't the end for Windows 8-based tablets. Eve Jung, an analyst at Nomura, said tablet shipments will pass up notebook shipments in the second half of 2013. By then, Microsoft will have its Windows 8 Pro-based Surface on the market and more Windows RT tablets (the ARM-based version) will have finally made their way into stores.

While the number of sales of Windows 8-based touchscreen devices is unclear, Microsoft just proudly announced that Windows 8 upgrades hit 40 million in the first month of release. This surpassed Windows 7, which was the previous record breaker for Windows OS upgrades. 

Sources: The Seattle Times, CNET

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By Argon18 on 12/5/2012 1:33:49 PM , Rating: -1
Go find 10 people out doing their Christmas shopping. Ask them about the iPad and you'll get smiles and excited responses. Then ask them about the Microsoft Windows Eight Surface Pro RT tablet, and see the blank stare and inevitable "huh?" response.

Nobody cares about the failed Microsoft toy du-jour. Zune, Kin, Surface, all junk in the same failed forgotten products rubbish bin of yesteryear.

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By chmilz on 12/5/2012 1:53:51 PM , Rating: 2
As people totally educated on tablets about Microsoft Windows Eight Surface Pro RT tablet and you'll also get a "huh?" response, because what you just described doesn't exist.

There's Windows RT tablets, and Windows Pro tablets. There's no RT Pro tablet.

May as well ask about Apple iPad iPhone 7 Touch S.

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By kleinma on 12/5/2012 2:34:22 PM , Rating: 2
Don't worry, he never actually has anything useful or valid to say. He just spits out whatever anti Microsoft thought springs into his head. Usually rehashing products that didn't do well for MS while ignoring every product they ever made that is used by billions of people.

So he will only rattle off things like kin and zune and make no mention of things like xbox or office, or that Windows 8 sold more upgrade licenses than any other OS in the launch time frame.

He can't even post a comment without it getting rated down into oblivion. Just take a look.

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By Argon18 on 12/5/12, Rating: -1
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By DukeN on 12/5/2012 2:52:44 PM , Rating: 2
Dailytech needs to implement an auto-ban feature for people who's posts are made up of "RealTalk", "YOLO"

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By nikon133 on 12/5/12, Rating: 0
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By ClownPuncher on 12/5/2012 5:16:43 PM , Rating: 2
RealTalk dawg.

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By Argon18 on 12/5/12, Rating: -1
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By kleinma on 12/5/2012 4:41:14 PM , Rating: 1
So that is why AAPL stock is down 37 points today and is on a trending slide downward from its once mighty 700 share price? The stock has dropped over 160 dollars in the past few months. Even with the iPhone 5 launch. The main reason investors are selling off? More competition in the mobile and tablet space, from Google, but more notably, from Microsoft.

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By Argon18 on 12/5/2012 4:54:55 PM , Rating: 2
What is MSFT at again? Oh right, languishing at $26 a share. Exactly where it has been for years and years. In fact, had you bought MSFT five years ago, you'd be down about 15% today.

And AAPL? Closed at $538 today. Up from less than $200 five years ago. You'd have more than doubled your money had you invested in AAPL five years ago.

What point were you trying to make about stock price again? If its that investing in Microsoft - either the stock, or the products - is a losing proposition, then you're right.

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By BillyBatson on 12/5/2012 1:54:47 PM , Rating: 2
I care. I just don't care about ARM based win8 tablets. I'm in the market for a Surface Pro and will be picking one up at launch. My ipad2 will go to my sister. What is there to smile about when someone mentions an ipad4? Most don't even know how it's different from a 3 other than a lightening port.
RT is just not the business at its current price point.

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By Nortel on 12/5/2012 2:11:12 PM , Rating: 2
I do believe many people are in the same boat as yourself. I have an ipad and cannot fathom a reason for slapping a hardcover keyboard on. I got the iPad for light surfing, some games and light email. If I was using excel, writing a novel, or using it for work purposes, a keyboard would become a must.

When running a full blown windows experience, having a keyboard becomes a far more valuable tool and that's what the Surface Pro brings to the table.

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By mcnabney on 12/5/2012 2:51:08 PM , Rating: 2
I've used Surface's keyboard.

Writing macros and functions in Excel or writing chapters in a book would be a nightmare on it. It is only marginally better than the touchscreen. It only makes it easier to write longer emails - a couple paragraphs.

To do real work you will need a dock, and a separate monitor, and maybe a better GPU, and more RAM, and ... screw it. Just keep your laptop and your iPad. They are for totally different things.

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By Kornfeld on 12/5/2012 3:59:09 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not following you there. There are two different keyboards, the Touch cover and the Type cover. My limited time with the Touch cover left a mixed impression, but I think I would almost immediately be able to match or exceed the speed I could get with an onscreen touch keyboard. The Type cover was pretty easy to use right away. It was pretty similar to using a keyboard on a subnotebook with a similar sized display and keyboard.

I think Microsoft should be offering some dock with the Surface Pro, like you would see on a similar system from Samsung, but it doesn't seem like they are going down that path.

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By Argon18 on 12/5/2012 2:46:45 PM , Rating: 3
Riddle me this Billy Batman - go hand those 10 hypothetical consumers a Windows ARM tablet and a Windows x86 tablet. Explain to them that they are the same, but different. Tell them apps on one are not compatible with the other. See the excitement and enthusiasm on their faces? Neither do I.

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By Da W on 12/5/12, Rating: 0
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By Argon18 on 12/5/12, Rating: -1
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By euler007 on 12/5/2012 3:24:04 PM , Rating: 2
So you're 100% Samsung?

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By Argon18 on 12/5/2012 4:57:58 PM , Rating: 2
Nope. No Samsung here either. My phone is a Sanyo, if that's what you're asking about. But I was talking about my entire home - no Microsoft or Apple products (of any type) can be found in here.

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By ClownPuncher on 12/5/2012 5:19:40 PM , Rating: 2
Just dildos and chocolate glaze, eh?

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By Argon18 on 12/6/2012 11:40:22 AM , Rating: 2
Says the "clown puncher"? LOL! Go punch your clown, leave the technical discussions to the adults in the room!

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By Ramstark on 12/5/2012 7:57:08 PM , Rating: 2
OMG you are definitely one of the WORST posters on DT. Biased comments, absolutely no manners and whats worst an "Against the consumerist way of life" You do realize you are on a technology site right?
Anyway, go and lick Tony Swash d%&k, you both are made for each other...

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By Argon18 on 12/6/2012 11:38:43 AM , Rating: 2
Wrong boy-o, I am not "against the consumerist way of life". In fact, when it comes to technology, I am the most pro-consumer person you will ever meet.

Which is exactly why I shun the crippled and broken products from the likes of Apple and Microsoft.

Microsoft locks you in to their ecosystem with proprietary file formats, proprietary networking protocols, and proprietary programming API's. Microsoft software is not compatible with anything but itself! It is the most anti-consumer software brand out there. They abuse the technology and their monopoly market position to lock you inside their ecosystem with no hope of escape.

Apple isn't much different, although Apple at lease does use open programming API's and standard networking protocols. The iTunes/iGadget ecosystem is designed similarly to Microsoft's software ecosystem in that it's a closed proprietary ecosystem that you are locked into, should you choose to use it. It's all or nothing. You can't mix and match software and hardware - you have to go 100% Apple or 0% Apple, because any other combination simple isn't compatible. Just like Microsoft.

Take off the shiny new product blinders that are worn by so many Microsoft and Apple die-hards, and set yourself free. Support only companies and products that use standard networking protocols, open file formats, open programming API's, and standard hardware. Dump the closed proprietary lock-you-in junk into the rubbish bin!

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By Pirks on 12/6/2012 1:34:41 PM , Rating: 1
Support only companies and products that use standard networking protocols, open file formats, open programming API's, and standard hardware. Dump the closed proprietary lock-you-in junk into the rubbish bin
See, there is one simple thing that you'll never understand because your head has no brain inside :) The thing is: closed systems provide better level of comfort to the users. Xbox 360 is an excellent example, and iTunes too. You have closed ecosystem where hardware was designed for software and vice versa. The companies who make those closed systems put significant amount of effort in designing easy to use UI that does not require your beloved Linux geekery to operate. If you were not brainwashed by Linux zealots you'd see it for yourself. The easy to use UI and high comfort in operating the device UI is THE SINGLE BIGGEST REASON why Xbox 360 and iTunes are so popular. I'm all for rpm package management and ipchains easy to use rules, just like you are I'm sure, but these are things people from the street don't understand. You think ipchains is important to them or using open source OGG Vorbis is important? Yeah you keep dreaming, idiot. They want their stuff to JUST WORK. They do not want to deinstall crapware, this is why Macs are growing in popularity, because Windows machines are mostly cheapo junk loaded with crapware. They (consumers I mean) want SIMPLE things. EVEN I WANT SIMPLE THINGS quite often, that's why I prefer Toyota cars for example, because they are as simple as it gets. Start, put into drive, done. Nothing else to THINK about. I have OTHER things to think about, like my kids, my wife, my job, my groceries etc. Do you even understand this, ya Linux freak? Your fucking "open protocols" DO NOT MEAN SHIT if they are not provided with simple UI and they JUST work. I wanna buy a cheapo Linux PC in my local best buy, turn it on, get my facebook, visual studio, youtube, utorrent, steam games etc set up and ready to go. Can I do it with Windows? Easy. Mac? Easy too. Well, except for games. Linux? HA. HA. HA. Not even funny. Did you understand at LEAST something from what I said above? I doubt it. You are a piece of wood *sigh*

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By Cheesew1z69 on 12/5/2012 7:17:35 PM , Rating: 2
get a life along with the 10s of millions of boys like you who all have a Apple phone and all look the same and have no distinct personality.

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By XZerg on 12/5/2012 2:42:21 PM , Rating: 1
the same was said when Xbox was brought to market. then it was Sony and Nintendo and Xbox got superbly slapped around. Where does it stand now?

So let's not try to dismiss any product when it just came out of the eggshell.

"Folks that want porn can buy an Android phone." -- Steve Jobs

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