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Schmidt also expresses frustration with patent wars; disdain for Windows Phone

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RE: Interesting, very interesting
By Tony Swash on 12/5/2012 2:50:29 PM , Rating: -1
Copying trade secrets that aren't well protected is not a crime and is not wrong. When Apple allowed the Google CEO to sit on their board they gave away their secrets. Obviously they didn't expect Google to get into the phone market, but legally that is irrelivant.

Whether it's matter of law or not surely it is a matter of ethics. Somebody plays you a fantastic song they are working on and nearly finished but which is unreleased yet and not covered by copyright, you decide to rush out your version of it and cash in on their work, whatever the legal technicalities is that ethical behaviour or unethical?

The irony is that for all Schmidt's and Google's sleazy duplicity the Android strategy has been a total failure from the point of view of Google's business, it's still a massive cost centre and has not dealt with the threat posed to Google's business by the eclipse of desktop browsing by mobile app led internet.

RE: Interesting, very interesting
By Rukkian on 12/5/2012 3:43:51 PM , Rating: 2
I would love to see the proof you have to show that
the Android strategy has been a total failure from the point of view of Google's business, it's still a massive cost centre
. I am not talking about them making more money off apple (as we have all heard from you numerous times), I want to see where you can show that they have lost money on android.

I am not saying you are incorrect, just would like to see your proof, as it does not seem correct from everything I have seen.

By Cheesew1z69 on 12/5/2012 3:53:25 PM , Rating: 5
He doesn't have proof, it's all in his head.

RE: Interesting, very interesting
By Boze on 12/5/2012 4:08:45 PM , Rating: 2
Unethical... but sadly not illegal.

By sprockkets on 12/5/2012 4:45:31 PM , Rating: 1
It IS illegal. The very fact that apple hasn't sued Google over it is proof enough. Heck, he even recused himself when details of the iphone were being discussed at meetings.

Why do you think he had to leave the board of apple? Hint: Cause if he didn't he'd be in trouble with the law, even if apple didn't care.

By BifurcatedBoat on 12/5/2012 5:17:49 PM , Rating: 5
If we are to get into the ethics of copying, then Apple wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Starting with the company name, which Apple lifted from well... Apple. (It's confusing to talk about, since what's now Apple Corps was just Apple back then, while today's Apple was Apple Computer.)

So then Apple and MS both lifted their OS design from Xerox. They got away with it legally, but I guess we're supposedly talking about ethics.

Apple took most of their ideas from others as they were growing in a company, and in Steve's own words, his company was shameless about it.

Even the iPhone design itself, as revealed in the Apple/Samsung trial was Apple's attempt to copy what they thought Sony was making, but without the benefit of a picture to use as a basis point.

So a company is going to talk about the evils of copying, it should be a company that doesn't do it themselves, wouldn't you think? Although, that might be hard to find, since almost all innovations are based on something that came before, and sometimes the improvements are pretty minor.

RE: Interesting, very interesting
By bug77 on 12/5/2012 5:53:13 PM , Rating: 3
...the Android strategy has been a total failure...

Total failure? Having millions of additional devices to show ads on must be a real death-blow to Google's core business.

"We shipped it on Saturday. Then on Sunday, we rested." -- Steve Jobs on the iPad launch

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