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Microsoft wants 20,000 extra green cards per year too

Microsoft is willing to pay the U.S. government for additional H-1B worker visas, saying there aren't enough skilled Americans to fill its available job openings.
More specifically, it suggested that the government raise $500 million a year by tacking on an extra $10,000 fee for each newly created H-1B visa or $15,000 for each new green card. This money can then be used to offer better education in science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) for Americans. Microsoft noted that not enough Americans are skilled in these areas to keep up with demand.

In addition to raising the number of visas offered, Microsoft wants the government to give 20,000 extra green cards per year.

H-1B visas allow foreign workers to come to the U.S. temporarily to work in their field. They can renew their visas every three years. Green cards, on the other hand, allow foreign workers to live in the country permanently. Currently, the government offers 65,000 visas a year, but in the past has seen numbers as high as 195,000.

Microsoft is one of the largest sponsors when it comes to H-1B visas. Ten percent of its 57,400 U.S. workforce are H-1B visa holders. From 2010 to 2011, it applied for about 850 visas annually for new employees on their very first H-1B visa. In 2011, Microsoft sponsored over 4,700 H-1B workers for green cards.

Many worry, however, that Microsoft is just looking for cheap labor. An issue is that Microsoft and other corporations don't need to prove that there aren't skilled Americans to fill these jobs. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) even warned that there are "inadequate safeguards" that protect skilled Americans from being booted out of jobs for cheaper foreign workers.

"The biggest myth people have is that a company like Microsoft somehow looks to foreign workers as an easy supply to displace American workers," said Karen Jones, Microsoft's deputy general counsel for human resources. "We simply cannot find qualified Americans to fill these jobs."

An analysis of Microsoft's green card applications shows that 25 percent were entry-level workers and 61 percent were a step up as software engineers or marketing managers. Most hold technical jobs, but most also make fewer than six figures while many graduates usually demand over $100,000 annual salaries.

Source: The Seattle Times

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RE: Seems legit..
By chmilz on 11/26/2012 3:48:31 PM , Rating: 5
I'm in Alberta. I know welders making $250,000/yr because demand is so high. Yet our universities are overflowing with Education and Arts students who end up unemployed, and employers are bringing in Vietnamese and Filipino welders by the boatload to get the work done. These guys are coming from abject poverty to 6-figure incomes, to do work that's considered low-class in their country.

That's the conversation you'd have with the youths. It's been drilled into their heads that they'll take some stupid program and make great money, but haven't actually looked at what's in demand. There's always fields in demand, but youth aren't paying attention to that.

You thought I was suggesting kids are dumb. That's why you're part of the problem.

RE: Seems legit..
By Jeffk464 on 11/26/2012 3:56:03 PM , Rating: 3
Yup, this concept really needs to be drilled into the heads of people going to college. Liberal arts degrees are barely worth the paper there printed on. If you want to turn your time and financial investment into something you need a solid major: engineering, nursing, medicine, engineering,etc.

Yes, I know I said engineering twice.

RE: Seems legit..
By YashBudini on 11/26/2012 3:59:25 PM , Rating: 2
Doesn't matter anymore how much or how many engineers they require at his moment, truth is you're going to be sacked the moment they get a better deal, no matter how loyal, efficient, and profitable you are or will be.

RE: Seems legit..
By superstition on 11/26/2012 4:03:16 PM , Rating: 2
Stack ranking to the rescue!

RE: Seems legit..
By YashBudini on 11/26/2012 4:33:44 PM , Rating: 2
But the real loss of reality is when a boss who tosses employees out the door like spitballs becomes all indignant if one quits, often wondering where's the loyalty?

Management created this climate, they need to live with the results.

RE: Seems legit..
By StanO360 on 11/26/2012 5:02:51 PM , Rating: 2
And the employee will quit and run to another company as soon as he gets a better offer? So what's your point? Actually the employer has more to lose than the employee, they invest in training for the employee and it's costly to find new ones.

RE: Seems legit..
By YashBudini on 11/26/12, Rating: 0
RE: Seems legit..
By YashBudini on 11/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: Seems legit..
By FITCamaro on 11/27/2012 7:02:34 AM , Rating: 2
Few people are willing to take a better job? Either in atmosphere, work, or pay? Talk about living in fog.

About the only time that holds true is for going from stable employment to short term work. I could be making $60-75/hr right now in Arizona. But the work isn't doing what I want to do.

RE: Seems legit..
By YashBudini on 11/27/2012 11:01:40 AM , Rating: 2
Few people are willing to take a better job? Either in atmosphere, work, or pay? Talk about living in fog.

Well well, if I'm living in a fog then you certainly created it, since your summation doesn't even come close to what I actually said. You do realize reading comprehension courses are available even in your neck of the woods. Or perhaps Faux News is allowing you to work from home and you've mastered their tasks?

A prime example of a successful indoctrination. Completely oblivious to anything he doesn't want to see. Mission accomplished.

RE: Seems legit..
By YashBudini on 11/27/2012 11:12:15 AM , Rating: 2
About the only time that holds true is for going from stable employment to short term work.

That's how people view all of IT, with good reason.

RE: Seems legit..
By chmilz on 11/26/2012 5:17:45 PM , Rating: 2
Or... skip college (and ridiculous American tuition fees) and get a trade instead. If you can lay brick and don't have a raging coke habit, you'll probably make a million before everyone else you know.

RE: Seems legit..
By titanmiller on 11/26/2012 8:49:49 PM , Rating: 3
The lack of skilled labor is a huge issue in America right now due to the preconceived notion that these jobs are somehow undesirable. Mike Rowe (of the TV show Dirty Jobs) is a leading proponent of trade work and the importance of pushing skilled labor jobs/tech schools to kids in lieu of college. Some kids are destined for college while others aren't. This is fine. We just need to stop pushing kids to college who aren't cut out for it.

Personally, I enjoy seeing high school educated plumbers/welders/carpenters making 2-3x what some college educated people make.

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