Ex-Autonomy Owner Blast HP's Accusations
November 26, 2012 12:43 PM
comment(s) - last by
Mike Lynch says HP's allegations don't add up, attempts to reconcile some of the allegations
Consumer and enterprise electronics giant Hewlett-Packard Comp. (
) is on a collision course with the former owners of its new subsidiary, Autonomy Corp., and their accountants. At HP's behest, UK authorities, the
U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation
, and the
U.S. Security and Exchange Commission
$5B USD accounting fraud scheme
at the purchase. But amid that unofficial probe, ex-Autonomy chief, co-owner, and co-founder Mike Lynch is speaking out, arguing HP's accusations don't add up.
I. Autonomy Founder Speaks Out
HP says it’s basing its claims on the account of an unnamed whistleblower within Autonomy's upper accounting echelon. And it says a forensic audit by
confirmed these claims. HP claims that Autonomy "invented" nearly $200M USD in bogus revenue over a two year period starting in 2009, a factor that led -- in part -- to its overvaluation.
Dr. Mike Richard Lynch, fired in May 2012 by HP after the merger, was among the
owners of Autonomy
to pocket a rich profit from the
$10.3B USD sale
. A pioneer in adaptive pattern recognition Dr. Lynch received his Ph.D. in signal processing and communications research from Cambridge University. He went on to found several startups, eventually creating the enterprise software giant-to-be Autonomy.
Autonomy CEO, Mike Lynch
Unsurprisingly, Dr. Lynch views the situation in a far different light and defends Autonomy's accounting, while stopping short of saying there were no mistakes. Lynch says the accusations are "utterly wrong" and points out that under the looser International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS) guidelines, published by the The
International Accounting Standards Board
(IASB), some kinds of revenue can be reported before deals are closed.
, "All of these deals went through (Autonomy's auditors) Deloitte themselves. Deloitte apply the test independently of us, and it is a standard test, and it is explicitly stated in the annual report and accounts."
Revenue (or lack thereof) is one of the key bones of contention between HP and Autonomy's former owners -- HP claims Autonomy cooked the books to make it look like it had more revenue than it really had.
HP and other American companies tend to follow the stricter
Generally Accepted Accounting Principles
(GAAP). Lynn E. Turner, former chief accountant of the Securities and Exchange Commission, told
, that the problem could indeed merely be in part that Autonomy was following the looser rule IAS 18 standards in IFRS, which govern vendor revenue, versus the stricter VSOE, or vendor-specific objective evidence guideline, in GAAP.
HP claims it was blindsided by Autonomy's "hidden" downsides. [Image Source: Autonomy]
He remarks, "It shouldn't be a surprise this issue is coming up. It shows how loosey-goosey IFRS is."
, one of the world's top accounting firms, defends its track record, in a comment to
stating, "[All Autonomy accounting was done] in full compliance with regulation and professional standards."
It "categorically denies" HP's accusations of impropriety, as far as its work is concerned.
II. IFRS v. GAAP -- When "Boring" Accounting Becomes Billions
Among the key GAAP and IFRS differences is how to handle licensing revenue. When a company sells licenses to a reseller, the terms of the contract sometimes allow the reseller to be refunded if it can't move the licenses.
Under GAAP revenue can only be recorded in such cases
the reseller resells the license. But under IFRS the revenue can be recorded immediately.
The distinction is important, in the eyes of Autonomy's former owners, as they were operating by the IFRS rules. As resellers like International Business Machines, Inc. (
) and Wipro Ltd. (
) are major business partners to Autonomy, the distinction could swing revenue by a small amount.
Mr. Lynch argues resellers like IBM moved 90 percent of the licenses, and that it was reasonable to count unsold licenses as revenue. [Image Source: Andrew Havis]
HP accuses Autonomy of selling to resellers with no end user yet found. But Mr. Lynch says this wasn't misleading; the reseller could decide simply to use the product itself, internally.
He also claims that 90 percent of Autonomy's licenses that are distributed to third parties are indeed sold. Thus, he argues, the distinction is largely a moot point.
III. HP, ex-Autonomy Owners on Collision Course Amid Criminal Probes
Mr. Lynch tackles another key claim -- that Autonomy misrepresented hardware sales as software sales. He defends the practice of calling sales of software/hardware bundles (with hardware often sold at a loss), saying that the package is built on Autonomy's software and thus it made sense to categorize it as "software" revenue.
He comments that the distinction "moves the gross margin a percent or two", but does not affect the company's overall profitability.
And he says that at cases where hardware was sold at a loss, Autonomy received compensatory marketing from the client -- a type of goodwill. HP, however, sees things differently, arguing that 10 to 15 percent of Autonomy's revenue came from hardware and that it was a major impropriety to account for that stream as software revenue which may have padded the losses.
The war of words between Mr. Lynch,
and HP is likely to get uglier. [Image Source: NBC]
But Mr. Lynch argues that Autonomy has long been transparent that it sells hardware. He points to reports HP had access to that show that in 2009-2010 hardware accounted for approximately 8 percent of the firm's revenue. In other words, HP should have realized that hardware was part of the equation, from his perspective.
At the end of the day, Mr. Lynch argues that the "impropriety" is on HP's part and that the write-down and accusations just don't add up. He comments, "There is nothing there that you can warrant such a big effect in terms of write-down."
With HP already committed to a write-down and pursuing potentially criminal accounting misconduct accusations against Autonomy and its accountants in both the U.S. and Britain, the two divergent views appear to be on a collision course that could have serious repercussions for either HP (on the one side) or Mr. Lynch and his co-owners (on the other side).
This article is over a month old, voting and posting comments is disabled
HP was stupid to fire mark hurd
11/28/2012 6:26:33 PM
HP was not very smart in firing mark hurd over a small personal issue, but stock companies have ethic committees so its not always easy.
But still for the personal issue was so small to fire him over vs a warning slap on the hand would have been better.
look a track records
mark Hurd - Started 2004 stock 22 a share - fired in 2010 - 45 a share
Leo appotheker hired 2010 - stock 40 a share - fell to 25 a share
Meg whittman hired 2012 - 23 a share - currently 12 a share
easy choice one of the 3 more then doubled the companies revenue while at the helm, the other 2 dropped stock prices more then half current value while at the helm.
People can lay blame all they want, but numbers speak very easy, to drop more then double in value clearly shows a bad choice made and nothing but more bad choices in leader selection.
HP is playing politics with leaders, not choosing a replacement leader to actually fix it, after firing mark hurd.
Non current managment in HP can least stablize teh company from sinking farther, there is no upwards trend in sight, fireing 30K people to justify what more stock prices falling farther, how is that saving the company at all.
The leaders are just stupid and clueless at HP since Mark Hurd was fired. To much politics vs actually running a business and least trying to stabilize its share value, even if its not going up real soon. As of now its still dropping fast towards bankrupcy with leo and now meg running them.
“And I don't know why [Apple is] acting like it’s superior. I don't even get it. What are they trying to say?” -- Bill Gates on the Mac ads
FBI Probes Possible Criminal Accounting Fraud at HP Unit Autonomy
November 21, 2012, 4:02 PM
HP Posts Horrific Guidance, Will Take $8.8B USD Hit on "Improprieties"
November 20, 2012, 9:27 AM
Oracle Circles HP Like a Shark, Ellison Lashes Out With War of Words
September 30, 2011, 10:50 AM
HP Looks to Dispose of TouchPads by Any Means Possible
August 19, 2011, 11:08 AM
LinkNYC Terminals to Blanket New York City With Free WiFi, Free Calls, and Ads
November 17, 2014, 6:50 PM
Microsoft is Open-Sourcing Most of .NET, Adding OS X and Linux Support
November 12, 2014, 8:27 PM
Home Depot Lost 53 Million Emails, Blames Windows, Buys Execs New Macs
November 9, 2014, 5:00 PM
Former NSA Lawyer: If Google, Apple Encrypt User Data, They’ll Wither on the Vine Like Blackberry
November 6, 2014, 12:15 PM
Report: AT&T Eyeing $40B DirecTV Purchase
May 1, 2014, 8:00 AM
WebOS Class Action Settlement Costs HP $57 Million
April 1, 2014, 10:22 AM
Most Popular Articles
BlackBerry Classic Sells Out Online (Seriously, It Has) for North America
December 15, 2014, 7:07 PM
After Coming So Close to Recovering, Northern White Rhino is Nearly Extinct
December 15, 2014, 11:30 AM
Peter Sunde is Sickened by Today's Pirate Bay, Say Internet Activism is Dying
December 15, 2014, 6:02 AM
Paramount Bans Team America Screenings, Cowers Submissively to North Korea
December 18, 2014, 10:26 PM
Apple Abandons Russia; Ruinous Ruble Run Sees 25% Inflation in a Single Day
December 16, 2014, 5:40 PM
Latest Blog Posts
Sceptre Airs 27", 120 Hz. 1080p Monitor/HDTV w/ 5 ms Response Time for $220
Dec 3, 2014, 10:32 PM
Costco Gives Employees Thanksgiving Off; Wal-Mart Leads "Black Thursday" Charge
Oct 29, 2014, 9:57 PM
"Bear Selfies" Fad Could Turn Deadly, Warn Nevada Wildlife Officials
Oct 28, 2014, 12:00 PM
The Surface Mini That Was Never Released Gets "Hands On" Treatment
Sep 26, 2014, 8:22 AM
ISIS Imposes Ban on Teaching Evolution in Iraq
Sep 17, 2014, 5:22 PM
More Blog Posts
Copyright 2014 DailyTech LLC. -
Terms, Conditions & Privacy Information