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T-Mobile doesn't want to spend billions just to get the iPhone like some competitors did

With the massive popularity of Apple's iPhone, you would think every carrier in the United States would want the device on their network. Verizon, AT&T, Sprint offer the iPhone, as do several smaller regional carriers. However, T-Mobile isn’t officially on the iPhone bandwagon yet.

A T-Mobile executive as recently stated that the carrier knows it has lost customers by not carrying the iPhone, but it's not willing to make major sacrifices just to get the device on its network.

Jim Alling, COO of T-Mobile USA, said, "Make no mistake about it: We would love to carry the iPhone. However, we want the economies to be right for us."
Alling also noted that T-Mobile didn't want to sign a deal similar to its competitors. Fierce Broadband and Wireless reports that Alling is making a veiled reference to a deal Sprint made to carry the iPhone in 2011 that cost $15.5 billion. Sprint doesn't expect its iPhone operations to become profitable until 2015.

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Alling did note that T-Mobile's SIM-only Value Plans have attracted numerous iPhone owners from other networks. He said that there are 1.5 million unlocked iPhones operating on the T-Mobile network right now.

The comments were made during a discussion at the 12th annual Morgan Stanley Technology, Media & Telecoms Conference in Spain. Some comments were also made about T-Mobile and its upcoming merger with MetroPCS. That merger is expected to take place early next year and it seems both T-Mobile and MetroPCS feel the same way about offering the iPhone.

Metro PCS COO Tom Keys said last summer, "It would be harmful to MetroPCS to have to cut out part of our handset portfolio to accommodate one phone from one provider that the economics could be at risk."

Source: Fierce Broadband and Wireless

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By mchentz on 11/21/2012 9:24:15 AM , Rating: 5
Sprint's iPhone unit won't be profitable until 2015. I suspect that the iPhone will be #2 by then and its market share will decline. T-Mobile may be actually thinking straight on this decision.

I have hopes for windows phone but it's not looking good.

Samsung will probably be the next big kid on the block here in the US.

RE: smart
By inperfectdarkness on 11/21/2012 10:18:18 AM , Rating: 2
Good point. Is anyone really surprised by this though?

RE: smart
By Gio6518 on 11/21/2012 10:18:50 AM , Rating: 2
Samsung will probably be the next big kid on the block here in the US

HUH........Samsung is no.1 here in the US outselling Apple almost 2 to 1, followed by LG Apple is numer 3 now that Motorola went from 3rd to 4th

RE: smart
By kleinma on 11/21/2012 10:34:37 AM , Rating: 2
Samsung is making a Windows phone in addition to their android offerings, so what does that even mean?

RE: smart
By Nortel on 11/21/12, Rating: -1
RE: smart
By Gio6518 on 11/21/2012 10:54:21 AM , Rating: 2
It's hard to be a carrier when you don't offer the phone such a large percentage of people are after

I'm not sure is that sarcasm?

Because they do have the most desired phone line up it's called Samsung Galaxy Line up

RE: smart
By JackBurton on 11/21/12, Rating: 0
RE: smart
By sprockkets on 11/21/2012 12:45:21 PM , Rating: 5
30 mil GS3's in 5 months may not beat iphone sales, but it isn't nothing to sneeze at either.

With that kind of sales, plus them having the note and note2, tmob can live without apple and their extortionist iphone.

RE: smart
By Gio6518 on 11/21/2012 1:37:24 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure if THAT is sarcasm. The iPhone 5 trumps ANY Samsung model in sales.

Uhhhh wrong........crApple people love to try and seperate a Galaxy line up by variations, instead of generations to try and make it look like iPhones sell more, i.e. a note is galaxy 2 generation and a galaxy note 2 is a galaxy 3 generation, just because Samsung gives the consumer choice, doesnt make it a different phone...

RE: smart
By TakinYourPoints on 11/21/2012 3:28:51 PM , Rating: 2
Ok. iPhone sales exceed total Galaxy sales combined (S3, Note 2, etc) by a pretty wide margin. Samsung's low end devices are what gives the company higher overall totals.

It isn't about being a fan of a company or whatever, its just reality. Samsung also sells a lot of phones, even if it isn't as much as Apple in the high end, that's all that really matters.

RE: smart
By Gio6518 on 11/21/2012 3:50:38 PM , Rating: 5
It isn't about being a fan of a company or whatever, its just reality

Yeah thats why Samsung out sells Iphone 2 to 1 in the US where iOS has a larger piece of the pie, on a worldwide level iOS is about to drop to under 10%......and who's the top worldwide distributor Samsung

RE: smart
By TakinYourPoints on 11/22/2012 3:24:00 AM , Rating: 2
Reading comprehension isn't your strength.

As I said, take the high end into account and no, Samsung Galaxy S3 and Note sales are a ways behind iPhone sales. If you include Samsung's low end and dumbphones into account then yes, they sell more hardware than Apple. Take web traffic, app downloads, etc into account, and iOS makes up the majority despite there being far more Android devices out there. This is including Samsung and everyone else out there. Again, this is because much of Android is running on low end hardware that doesn't get as much "smartphone" use, the type of devices you get contract free at Boost Mobile or in poor countries.

If you're proud of using trash-phones to bolster numbers then be my guest.

RE: smart
By Gio6518 on 11/22/12, Rating: 0
RE: smart
By Gio6518 on 11/22/2012 11:37:35 AM , Rating: 3
not much different than crApple offering old models for free etc.

iPhone 4 for .99
iPhone 4S for $99

RE: smart
By TakinYourPoints on 11/26/2012 4:21:25 AM , Rating: 2
Except that the bulk of iPhones sold aren't old models, they're new ones by a very wide margin, something like 4 to 1. It is the opposite situation as Android where most of their hardware sold is on cheaper models running slower hardware.

RE: smart
By TakinYourPoints on 11/26/2012 4:19:04 AM , Rating: 3
In what universe is iPhone technology a year behind Android? The iPhone 5 is the fastest smartphone in the market in every category, CPU and GPU. Hell, the Galaxy S3 still has slower graphics performance than the old 4S. Tabletwise, Android hardware has yet to catch up to the 10" iPad. Even the iPad Mini with its old A5 has faster graphics performance than the latest Android running tablets.

It doesn't seem like you know what you're talking about. If you want to argue about things like SD cards or keyboards, that's cool, but if we're talking about fastest technology then iOS devices are where its at.

RE: smart
By robpop on 11/26/2012 10:26:33 AM , Rating: 2
good link. did you read the details of Comscore's study? it requires some critical thinking and inference.

chart 1- 234MM MOBILE subscribers-- Samsung (all models- feat & smart phones) make up 25.6% (59.9mm users) market share. Apple (all models- only smart phones) makes up 15.4% (36mm users) market share.

chart 2- 110MM SMARTPHONE subscribers- Apple iOS (only Apple hardware) makes up 32.4% (36mm users) market share. Google Android (various hardware) makes up 51.6% (57mm users) market share.

interesting that the total Apple users in chart 1 and chart 2 match, right? ::sigh::

Apple doesn't have feature phones and is not likely to begin manufacturing them.
The gap between smart phone and total mobile phones continues to shrink.
The amount of content rendered on and traffic generated from the iOS platform far exceeds any other platform.
Samsung reports channel sales (phones sitting on shelves) vs. Apple that reports end user sales (phones sitting in your pocket)

How is this bad for Apple and good for Samsung or anyone else not trading under AAPL?

RE: smart
By TakinYourPoints on 11/26/2012 10:43:40 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. There's this big disconnect from some people to make the numbers support their preferred view. Fact of the matter is that hard data has supported for years the difference in iOS and Android traffic and class of hardware sold. So much of what is running Android is nothing close to a flagship product like an iPhone 5 or something overpriced like the Galaxy S3.

RE: smart
By Yongsta on 11/21/12, Rating: 0
RE: smart
By TakinYourPoints on 11/22/2012 3:34:56 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, the Galaxy S3 outsold a year-old iPhone 4S last quarter by a narrow margin. That same iPhone 4S also sold the same amount as the S3 in about half the time from when it was released.

Thanks for helping me to make my point.

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