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They're all expected to hit dealerships in 2013

Audi is going crazy for diesels as it gears up to release four new TDI clean diesel models in the U.S. throughout 2013. 

Audi has announced that it will be releasing the Audi A8 TDI, Audi A7 TDI, Audi A6 TDI and Audi Q5 TDI next year. All four models are part of Audi's TDI clean diesel engine lineup, and they debuted at the Los Angeles Auto Show. 

According to Audi, each of the TDI vehicles offer 30 percent greater fuel economy and 30 percent reduced carbon dioxide emissions than gasoline engines. 

Audi A7

“Owners of Audi TDI engines have helped save over 4 million gallons of gasoline, or the equivalent of more than 240,000 barrels of foreign oil, since the introduction of Audi TDI to the U.S. in 2009,” said Scott Keogh, President, Audi of America. ” And, TDI technology delivers better fuel efficiency without sacrificing performance.”

All four models will have Audi's 3.0-liter V6 turbocharged diesel engine, which offers 240 HP and 406 lb.-ft. of torque. 

In the A8 TDI, which is Audi's flagship sedan, the vehicle's set up is expected to return 24 MPG city and 36 MPG highway. The Audi Q7 TDI, which has been available since September 2012, gets 19 MPG city and 28 MPG highway. 

While there's no word on pricing quite yet, the A8 TDI will make its way to dealerships in the U.S. in Spring 2013 while the A7 TDI, A6 TDI and Q5 TDI will all come later in Fall 2013. 

Source: Fourtitude

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still waiting for better fuel
By superstition on 11/20/2012 6:10:54 PM , Rating: 3
Europe has higher cetane fuel. The US standard is not only just 40 or greater, but the wear scar is 520 microns or less.

Bosch and others in the Engine Manufacturers' Association have put out papers and statements repeatedly that the wear scar should be no greater than 460 microns.

Also, as far as I know, car drivers here are paying fuel taxes designed to compensate for road damage from large diesel trucks. As long as diesel is 75-110 cents more per gallon, it is going to be less attractive for car buyers — although Audi buyers probably won't care as much as VW buyers.

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By Samus on 11/20/12, Rating: -1
RE: still waiting for better fuel
By Lord 666 on 11/20/2012 10:42:49 PM , Rating: 3
Sure... and my TDI wasn't made in Mexico. Wait, you are wrong again.

Perception versus reality. Owners of modern diesels (unlike you apparently) would argue there is little diesel specific maintenance and the benefits outweigh whatever incremental cost difference per gallon there is. After Hurricane Sandy, diesel was the only fuel readily available in nj. Plus, it worked as a shady tree generator for cell phones and laptops. Left it idle on/off for 6 hours and the fuel needle never moved. Yee haw!

After 140,000 miles on my TDI, the only thing that has ever needed diesel specific changing has been the fuel filter. Looking back, it had more to do with running the tank empty versus filling at 1/4.

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By FurryOne on 11/20/2012 8:08:23 PM , Rating: 5
Ummm... having driven a diesel for 13 years in the US, I think it's pretty funny to keep hearing that same old urban legend about diesel taxes. You can look up the taxes on gas & diesel, and if you do, you'll find there's almost no difference between them - it's a myth perpetrated by the oil companies to make you blame the government when it's the oil companies themselves that set the price of diesel higher by choice. THEY are the ones screwing over diesel car owners.

The Federal tax is 18.4 cents/gal on gas, 22.4 cents/gal on diesel. Here are a few states total fuel taxes (State & Federal):

NY: 69.7 gas, 74.7 diesel
TX: 38.4 gas, 44.4 diesel
CA: 68.9 gas, 77.1 diesel

... so that's 5 cents more in NY, and 8.2 cents in CA - So much for Urban Legends!!

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By superstition on 11/24/2012 7:51:43 PM , Rating: 2
8.2 cents extra per gallon constitutes an "urban legend"?

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By erple2 on 11/25/2012 12:41:07 PM , Rating: 2
No, but 75 to 110 cents per gallon more sure is.

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By ipay on 11/20/2012 10:13:50 PM , Rating: 1
Make friends with a farmer and buy diesel from him. (It's not taxed the same.)

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By Lord 666 on 11/20/2012 11:48:50 PM , Rating: 2
Or a smart and law abiding person would just make their own.

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By ipay on 11/21/2012 1:09:26 AM , Rating: 1
And while technically legal, the end result is the same: you avoid paying pay taxes levied for the repair and maintenance of the roadways you use. So legal, just not fair.

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By knutjb on 11/21/2012 3:53:48 PM , Rating: 2
The more government tries to "nudge" us in a particular direction the more holes they create. The less they screw with it the better things are.

Your moral equivilancy arguement is weak. Look how much they raise in fuel road taxes and how much of it actually goes to the roads. Most states put it in their general fund and it disapears from there. Is that "fair" to those who buy fuel and expect it to fix the roads?

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By StevoLincolnite on 11/21/2012 1:20:44 AM , Rating: 2
I know a bloke here that makes Diesel from oil that he gets for free from the fish and chip shops. - He hasn't paid for fuel in half a century.
The shops love it as they don't have to pay anything to get rid of the oil. :)

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By BZDTemp on 11/21/2012 4:35:52 AM , Rating: 2
I'm pretty sure the bloke you know isn't making Diesel but rather he is taking advantage of how a Diesel car can run on other types of fuel (which is pretty handy).

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By jharper12 on 11/21/2012 9:00:54 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, he probably is making diesel through transesterification. It's called bio-diesel, and people really do home-brew it. It's not as simple a process as even the people making it seem to believe though. It's reversible, and I think this guys friend would find his diesel would never pass EN 14214 standards set for the European Union.

RE: still waiting for better fuel
By Bad-Karma on 11/21/2012 11:00:01 AM , Rating: 2
And risk the DoT sticking my tanks and finding "red" thank you.

I admit it is tempting, especially as my F-550 holds right at 180 gallons across 3 tanks, and the bill really, really sucks. But, I was stick'd 3 times over 10 years while living in Tucson and once in the last 8 while here in Ohio. If I got caught running agricultural diesel the fines would far exceed any savings I could ever hope for.

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