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RE: What?
By redbone75 on 11/16/2012 6:17:46 PM , Rating: 1
I have faith in he who has given me reason to have faith in him.

Or, faith only where you look for it.

I have a lot of pride in the nation the founders created.

All of whom have been rolling over in their graves for a long, long time now, not the least because of people like you.

I have a lot of sorrow that that nation has been fading and now, is likely to completely fade away.

I'm guessing it's because the POTUS is a Democrat, right? No? Oh, that other reason. Figures. How about this: if you truly are a patriot, stop bemoaning the fact that the nation you claim to love simply exercised its democratic process. If you don't like the result (obviously you don't), then do something about it. Get the word out, organize. Become active. That's how the Teabaggers got started (lots of good that did the Republican party, what with so many of them going so far right of sane).

RE: What?
By retrospooty on 11/16/2012 6:39:43 PM , Rating: 2
I Know... Its funny, alot of these right wing extremists that just cant stand the fact that the country voted dem, claiming dems are "unamerican" and "unpatriotic" are the same nutjobs signing to secede from the union. Succession is the single most unamerican thing you could possibly do.

RE: What?
By FITCamaro on 11/16/2012 7:08:50 PM , Rating: 2
Actually its more of crap like this that could result

Succession is the single most unamerican thing you could possibly do.

The British probably felt the same way.

And I'm not calling for succession. I do plan to help organize. That doesn't mean I think everything is great and we'll just get over this in 4 years once Obama is gone. It has nothing to do with the fact that he has a 'D' appear in front of his name on the ballot card. It has to do with the fact that he doesn't believe in the America that the founders created.

Yes he was not the start of the problem nor will he be the end of it. But this election showed that we as a nation have fallen to where the color of a man's skin and what he'll give to us are more important than the rule of law and what the man actually believes in and has done when considering who should lead us.

RE: What?
By Tony Swash on 11/16/2012 7:43:15 PM , Rating: 4
Chipping in as a Brit who is regularly disappointed at the US political systems inability to deliver effective government (a disappointment founded on my deep affection for the USA) I recommend this article.

It makes an interesting case for viewing the current US constitution as being structured as a the frozen version of the constitutional arrangements current in Britain at the time of the Revolution.

An excerpt:

And that explains an unremarked but curious fact. While the American founding fathers were in conscious reaction against England, they unconsciously echoed its political culture. With the constitution cementing that in place, it means that American politics today is closer to British politics at the time the Americans rebelled than British politics today, and Obama resembles George III more than David Cameron (politically rather than personally, that is). He is both head of state and chief executive, and does not need, or indeed now have, a congressional majority. Like the king, he has to barter with the legislature, using cajolery, bribery or appeals to loyalty (the last not much use with the present house).

The resemblance goes even further. Congress is more like parliament under George III than under George VI. The House of Lords may be absurd, but it is not more absurd than the Senate. Wyoming, with its 570,000 inhabitants, sends two senators to this bizarre body, and so does California, with 40 million. Even worse, since the 17th amendment of 1913, senators have been elected by popular vote. Until then, they had been chosen by state legislatures, as is still true elsewhere.

I am convinced that the US needs deep constitutional reform but I fear it is unlikely to come about. Whatever happens I do wish the country all the best and always feel thankful that the century I was born in the middle of was one dominated by the US as all the possible alternatives as world hegemon are too awful to contemplate.

RE: What?
By retrospooty on 11/17/2012 7:48:03 AM , Rating: 2
"I am convinced that the US needs deep constitutional reform but I fear it is unlikely to come about. Whatever happens I do wish the country all the best and always feel thankful that the century I was born in the middle of was one dominated by the US as all the possible alternatives as world hegemon are too awful to contemplate."

Totally agreed. When your head isnt up in the iCloud you arent so narrow minded ;)

RE: What?
By Cluebat on 11/20/2012 1:57:49 PM , Rating: 2
Our constitution does not need reform. It needs to be made relevent again.

It has completely lost it's purpose as a limiting device and because of that we have lost federalism.

D.C. is only supposed to be allowed to exercise powers specifically granted in the constitution. All other powers belong to each state- such as the "right" to vote.

If you want a more enlightened government, then you should also expect a more enlightened electorate.

The only way to do that would be to have minimum requirements to prove a person is knowledgable and responsible enough to cast a ballot.

RE: What?
By retrospooty on 11/16/2012 9:22:44 PM , Rating: 2
I don't disagree with you at all. To me the problem is there was no alternative. It's not like Romney was going to fix anything, or McCain, gore, Kerry, or any other recent candidate. But we will survive. We have been through much worse than this.

RE: What?
By GotThumbs on 11/19/2012 11:11:23 AM , Rating: 2
I strongly disagree, but I'm not surprised by your lack of faith/optimism. You obviously have no idea the amount of hidden taxes coming down the pipeline that will affect everyone. Your starting to see the consequences of the pathetic "Healthcare" law. It is the perfect example of stupidity when lawyers are running the show.

The simple fact that America chooses a lawyer to run the county rather than an undeniably successful self-made millionaire speaks volumes.....At least to me. Success in American is now deemed to be shameful since others who are not as successful are envious and feel the successful should be held responsible for those who are not as committed to working hard for their own success. America was built on the foundation of working hard for what one has. Today, most of U.S. society is lazy and wants others to do things for them. Yet look at the millions of dollars given to sports athletes in this country and the millions given to actors. No one seems to mind about the fact that those careers were once considered recreational and require very little intelligence. I'm saying all athletes and actors are dumb, but I'm sure most are less intelligent than many of you. Think of scum like Michael Vick who multiple killed dogs himself and yet He's back to making millions running a football down the field. You have Pete Rose whose been banned for life from baseball for betting on sports games. Forget the color of their skin...Now think which is worse....a man killing multiple fighting dogs in a heinous and torturous manner using electricity OR a man betting on a sports games? America has extremely lowered its ethical standards/morels and its logic and reasoning is backasswards.

I'm not a business owner, but I've worked hard for what I have and do not feel I need to feel embarrassed or ashamed of it. I'm not wealth, but life a comfortable life and I choose to donate my time and money, but on my own terms.

Many people today are weak minded and lazy when it comes to educating themselves on what the news media is telling them and how that media outlet whats to sway public opinion. If you don't think the media has motives in swaying public opinion, then your naive twit and won't amount to anything in live. Ignorant people will always be controllable by others.

It's simply disgusting the direction things are heading for this country. Sad and disgusting.

But it can be turned around if people wake up and realize nothing is free and independence can be achieved through hard work and determination. Don't think what happened to Greece can't happen to us. Only a fool thinks He's immune to the realities of the world. We just have too many lazy kids coming up and Obama knew the college students were ripe for the picking. Most of them are used to mom and dad taking care of everything and have no concept of earning a wage and paying.

Rant over,

Best wishes for everyone

RE: What?
By FITCamaro on 11/16/2012 7:47:09 PM , Rating: 2
Besides. We just lost the Twinkie. What more proof do you need that America has fallen?

RE: What?
By retrospooty on 11/16/2012 9:23:59 PM , Rating: 3
Lesser than we were, yes... But not done for. Loltwinkie

RE: What?
By Mathos on 11/18/2012 3:42:56 PM , Rating: 2
But, but.... How can we have a zombie apocalypse without the twinky????? Now we know why it's so hard to find them in zombie land :D.

And I agree with Tony on this one. I knew full well this election nothing would change, even if we'd elected Romney. And Paul Ryan was so far to the nut house it could of made other problems.

Sadly thats why I have been voting libertarian since Dubya got elected the first time, had voted for Gore then. Think our only hope for a positive change would of been Ron Paul, but he didn't get enough backing. But, on the other hand, in 4 years it leaves us with a clean slate as far as new people to elect. No more Obama tying up the Dem party backing leaving it open for Clinton or someone else, and hopefully a better alternative to Romney running. Can almost bet Ron Paul will run again, he's been running since the 80s. Also been mention of Jesse Ventura running in 2016, I'd like to see him get into the national debates and get elected as an independent.

And about the article, honestly this needs to end. Think i need to patent electronic or computing device with any depiction of a fruit emblem on the casing, and sue apple to show how absurd this all is.

RE: What?
By Belard on 11/19/2012 9:28:47 AM , Rating: 2
Please, put a bag over year head... you are wasting our oxygen.

Its amazing that a terrorist such as you even knows how to type on a computer.

RE: What?
By Cluebat on 11/20/2012 2:04:08 PM , Rating: 2

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