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  (Source: Android Schweiz via Droid Arena)
New superphone is rumored to be 5-inch, quad-core "Yuga"

Sony Corp. (TYO:6758) was rumored to be in the running to make the next Nexus phone for Google Inc. (GOOG).  Instead the Nexus 4 contract was awarded to the Japanese firm's South Korean rival LG Electronics (KSC:066570) who offered up a 4.7-inch, quad-core powered design.

Undeterred Sony, according to a Phone Arena report, will be releasing an Android superphone of its own.  The phone is expected to be a large screen design dubbed "Yuga".  Some sources say the 1080p display will be 6-inches (making it more of a phone-cum-tablet than a pure phone); others expect it to be a 5-inch 1080p unit.

Most sources point to it packing a quad-core Snapdragon 4 chip from Qualcomm, Inc. (QCOM), possibly the APQ8064, paired with 2 GB of DRAM.  It is expected to run Android Jelly Bean v1 (4.1.1) out of the box, with an upgraded to the second major version of Jelly Bean (v2) on the horizon.

Those snazzy specs would place it directly in the superphone discussion versus Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd.'s (KSC:005930) Galaxy S III and Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) iPhone 5 -- the two handsets that currently post the highest unit sales.

Of course to get in that discussion Sony will have to beat out other potential challengers like the Droid DNA from HTC Corp. (TPE:2498), which is expected to be the flagship phone on America's largest carrier, Verizon Wireless.

Thus far Sony has released some interesting Android handsets such as the Gingerbread-powered Xperia Play 4G (aka "The PlayStation Phone") and the "Live With Walkman" music-minded handset.  While its lineup shows more variety and differentiation than most of the Android pack, lack of high end models have led to slow sales for the Asian OEM.

"Yuga" is a word from Hindu philosophy that refers to an "era" or "epoch".

Source: Phone Arena

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iphone a superphone?
By GulWestfale on 11/16/2012 9:58:39 AM , Rating: 1
so the dual-core, 4" non-HD screen, 1GB RAM iphone with it's outdated OS is a superphone in the same right as the new wave of quad-core, 720p/1080p screen, 2GB RAM android phones?

i think teh real competition here is the nexus 4, as it offers high-end specs at a mid-level price. sony will have to try to compete with that, and i'm pretty sure it's already eating into galaxy 3 sales. several news sites have reported that the nexus 4 was sold out within hours of its launch.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By cochy on 11/16/2012 10:39:21 AM , Rating: 2
Don't think of a "superphone" in terms of hardware specs. Think of it in terms of what the phone can do.

A new BB10 device might ship in a few month with a 6 core 5Ghz cpu with 8GB of RAM and a 50 megapixel camera but the thing has 5 apps and can't connect to a BES for email will you call that a superphone?

RE: iphone a superphone?
By DanNeely on 11/16/12, Rating: 0
RE: iphone a superphone?
By GulWestfale on 11/16/2012 12:38:48 PM , Rating: 3
Don't think of a "superphone" in terms of hardware specs. Think of it in terms of what the phone can do.

exactly; and the iphone with its small screen and outdated OS cannot do what android phones can do. no HD video playback, no widgets, no options for expandable storage (not all android have this, but quite a few do), still no micro-USB...

as far as apps are concerned: every useful app is available on all platforms. no developer limits itself to just apple. the bulk of all other apps, regardless of platform, is fart sounds and wallpapers.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By JasonMick on 11/16/2012 11:14:50 AM , Rating: 2
so the dual-core, 4" non-HD screen, 1GB RAM iphone with it's outdated OS is a superphone in the same right as the new wave of quad-core, 720p/1080p screen, 2GB RAM android phones?
I wouldn't call it a superphone, but I would say it does offer some advantages.

As I see it...

+Battery Life
+App catalog (yes, this is shrinking, but the lead is still there)
+Body design
+More stable OS upgrade cycle

+Faster CPUs
+Bigger screens (yes not everyone wants a 5-inch screen, but some do)
+Open & customizable
+Best maps

Windows Phone
+Best basic UI in terms of animated information
+Unique body designs (maybe not as slick and minimalist as Apple's, but great from a colorful/poppy standpoint).
+Microsoft Office apps

+Best physical keyboards
+Not much else...

Each platform has some merits from an non-emotional purely technical perspective.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By FITCamaro on 11/16/2012 11:41:17 AM , Rating: 2
What I love about Siri is the default setting for her is to let anyone do pretty much anything to your phone without unlocking it.

So you can mess with people's facebook statuses without having to unlock the phone.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By JasonMick on 11/16/2012 11:46:14 AM , Rating: 2
What I love about Siri is the default setting for her is to let anyone do pretty much anything to your phone without unlocking it.

So you can mess with people's facebook statuses without having to unlock the phone.
Yea if I was making a list of minuses Apple's quality control (or lack thereof) would be definitely on there.

I honestly wonder if the company field tests its major core apps at all... evidence would certainly suggest it doesn't or at least very little.

I guess that's the price of paranoia?

RE: iphone a superphone?
By messele on 11/16/12, Rating: 0
RE: iphone a superphone?
By ksherman on 11/16/2012 11:44:43 AM , Rating: 3
Also, many are forgetting that Apple's A6 dual core CPU didn't have any trouble besting the performance of just about all the Android smarthphones out there:

Just because it has a smaller screen does not disqualify the iPhone 5 from "superphone" status.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By messele on 11/16/12, Rating: 0
RE: iphone a superphone?
By BillyBatson on 11/16/2012 5:10:13 PM , Rating: 2
Hey Jason, what do you mean by best apps on android? In the last two years there hasn't been 1 app that I've had available on my iPhone that wasn't also available on any of my friends androids and vise-versa. Do you mean best standard apps ie. maps and YouTube? If that were the case I would agree.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By macca007 on 11/16/2012 7:04:56 PM , Rating: 2
Apple battery life? Don't think so.

Motorola Droid Razor
Samsung Galaxy Note II

Android wins there

RE: iphone a superphone?
By TakinYourPoints on 11/16/2012 9:44:35 PM , Rating: 2
Make any phone (or phablet) gigantic and you'll get amazing battery life due to larger batteries. Compare it with something closer in size like the Galaxy S3 and the differences go the other way, with the iPhone 5 having double the LTE and wifi browsing time.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By spread on 11/16/2012 11:02:14 PM , Rating: 2
The iphone is already gigantic. It's fairly thick and the battery takes up a huge portion of it.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By TakinYourPoints on 11/17/2012 2:43:49 AM , Rating: 2
Hoping that you're being sarcastic, the iPhone 5 is among the smallest smartphones out there. It is thinner than the S3 and is much smaller in height and width. It also weighs much less. The Droid Razr and Note II are gargantuan compared to either of those phones.

The battery does take up a huge portion of it, but that goes for all smartphones. Its all about how much battery you can fit into each chassis.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By macca007 on 11/17/2012 7:33:42 PM , Rating: 2
Not really Galaxy Note 2 is thinner than my current phone Iphone 3GS by quite a significant amount.
Screen size is gigantic but some people like that, Reason I am gonna ditch Apple screen is too small to do anything on.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By TakinYourPoints on 11/16/2012 9:42:05 PM , Rating: 4
+Faster CPUs

I'd expect that a tech site would know that performance != CPU clock speed.

Otherwise the list of pros and cons between platform is pretty balanced.

RE: iphone a superphone?
By TheJian on 11/18/2012 12:18:09 PM , Rating: 2
siri vs google voice
Google that...I don't see anyone saying siri is better than google's voice helper and there are vids you can watch to prove it.

Google's already has an answer while apple is saying "would you like me to search for that?"...LOL.

The OS cycle is debatable, body design too. I'm definitely not fond of things getting thinner. Keep thickness and add more battery.

Dynamite Data?
By CityZen on 11/16/2012 12:41:56 PM , Rating: 1
Hey, Jason, what's this "dynamitedata" that you included (or forgot to remove) on some of the links in your article?

RE: Dynamite Data?
By JasonMick on 11/16/2012 4:28:10 PM , Rating: 2
Hey, Jason, what's this "dynamitedata" that you included (or forgot to remove) on some of the links in your article?
Ah, I was confused for a second. It appears that DynamiteData grabbed the Google URL (for the stock quote) and wrapped it.

DynamiteData is Kris Kubicki's new company -- they do price-based data-mining, as well as other interesting things. Cool stuff:

I don't know too much about the coding details for the DT page... if you have any concerns I'd shoot them to the web admin, but I'm guessing Dynamite is just somehow monetizing your click-through to Google.

RE: Dynamite Data?
By Adul on 11/17/2012 1:35:25 AM , Rating: 2
I been wonder how Kris is doing. Its been a long time since I last chatted with him.

Sony's phone problem
By MadMan007 on 11/16/2012 11:13:45 AM , Rating: 3
Sony's phone problem is that they have been very late for what they have, both OS and sometimes hardware. They have the potential to make great hardware, they should just not bother skinning or altering Android, preload some apps instead, and focus on hardware design which they can do as well as Apple imo.

By lolmuly on 11/16/2012 1:20:29 PM , Rating: 2
Will it have a memory card duo slot?! I want to pay more for flash memory on my phone

By superflex on 11/16/12, Rating: -1
RE: Sony
By tng on 11/16/2012 11:07:43 AM , Rating: 2
Closed systems, proprietary hardware
Seems to be where Sony has failed in recent years, trying to self promote some proprietary format or system that makes the item that you have actually less useful than a competing brand with less features. Not sure if they will ever learn the lesson of compatibility with other devices will promote sales.

RE: Sony
By MadMan007 on 11/16/2012 11:10:28 AM , Rating: 5
2003 called, it wants its Sony complaints back.

RE: Sony
By quiksilvr on 11/16/2012 11:59:35 AM , Rating: 3
It can meet up with "Why doesn't MTV play music videos anymore" complaints and go out for some coffee or something.

RE: Sony
By Flunk on 11/16/2012 11:56:05 AM , Rating: 2
I thought you were describing Apple for a second there. All of those complaints apply there too.

RE: Sony
By retrospooty on 11/16/2012 1:05:29 PM , Rating: 2
"Sorry, they are on the same page as Apple IMO"

Same page, but in bold print. Sony is even worse than Apple.

The iPhone Isn't a Super Phone
By Arsynic on 11/16/12, Rating: -1
By elleehswon on 11/16/2012 9:58:31 AM , Rating: 2
Search bots...

RE: The iPhone Isn't a Super Phone
By kleinma on 11/16/2012 10:08:58 AM , Rating: 2
I am no Apple fan (not even a little), but i am also not an idiot who denies reality.

That reality is that there are millions and millions of iPhones in the hands of all types and all ages.

Depending on which stat sheet you look at, the iPhone is #1, #2, or #3 in sales for whatever demographic you are looking at. That sure makes for a lot of hipsters and seniors world wide...

RE: The iPhone Isn't a Super Phone
By superflex on 11/16/2012 10:15:10 AM , Rating: 5
Don't forget all the girls from 6th grade through college who's mommies buy them iPhones so they can keep up with the Kardashians.

RE: The iPhone Isn't a Super Phone
By mellomonk on 11/16/12, Rating: -1
By elleehswon on 11/16/2012 1:55:44 PM , Rating: 5
1. I have a wife, a 2 year old, and another boy on the way(due in march)(i'm no basement dweller)
2. I've modified roms to my liking and used others' too.
3. We have 2 cars though i tend to car-pool to save on gas.
4. Speed and feed is a machining term referring to the amount of material you can remove with a certain type of tool according to the material you're cutting.......not an electronics term.

most of us aren't basement dwellers. Are there zealots pro/against xx company/methodology here? sure! Thanks for the stereotyping though.

RE: The iPhone Isn't a Super Phone
By tng on 11/16/2012 11:09:00 AM , Rating: 2
So true!

RE: The iPhone Isn't a Super Phone
By macca007 on 11/16/2012 8:27:51 PM , Rating: 2
Which data sheet are you looking at, Latest one I seen Gartner report shows Android mobile smartphone sales now over 72.4% and growing up from 52.5% last year.
While IOS went from 15% to 13.9%.
Now if you take into account tablets as well then Android is over 90% market penetration may drop off a bit now that Windows 8 devices are out but time will tell.

Android is about to steal another IOS customer now that my dream phone has finally been released where I am, Galaxy Note II.
The reality is it's the same no matter which device you use, Android is used by all ages as well you know.

RE: The iPhone Isn't a Super Phone
By macca007 on 11/16/2012 8:39:43 PM , Rating: 2
Android now at 75%, IOS at 14.9%.
3% growth on Android and only 1% on IOS, How many millions more customers is 3% over 1%?

RE: The iPhone Isn't a Super Phone
By JasonMick on 11/16/2012 11:08:05 AM , Rating: 2
Why the fuck is it in this discussion? It's a smart phone for seniors and hipsters.
Wow, bro, I think you need to relax.

I would never buy an iPhone, as I prefer not using a UI that looks like it was transported in a time machine from the 90s; one that's been made iteratively uglier with icon bins (usability at the expense of looks) and red notification dots (these are an eyesore).

And I generally dislike Apple's approach towards suing everybody, though to be fair, it's not that far off what Microsoft has done. Ultimately the courts are most to blame for that, but sure Apple is a little too.

BUT I think you're positively crazy if you deny that at present Apple still has the best app selection (some high-end apps are still iOS exclusive, though that lead is shrinking), has one of the most striking BODY designs in the industry, and has just about the best hardware in a 4-inch package out there.

Sure it lacks NFC, but to me that's more of a gimmick. To be fair I feel a lot of Apple's features -- Siri, etc. -- are gimmicks as well. But I would say at the end of the day Apple's iPhone has a lot of negatives (which are the reason I could never use one for my general purpose phone), but also a lot of positives.

It's easy to see why the iPhone is in the discussion still, even if you dislike Apple's business practices.

RE: The iPhone Isn't a Super Phone
By flubaluba on 11/17/2012 8:43:30 PM , Rating: 2
I have an old flip top mobile phone you know the ones that sell for around £13 -£20 in a lot of shops.

I love my phone it does everything I could ever want it to do, I can make and receive calls and I can send and receive texts. Wonderful cheap and works every time.My battery last for days even when I make a lot of calls and it charges rather quickly too. OK so I only have a very very small screen but hey I only look at it when I need to input a number or text. And the screen is very well protected by the flip screen.

Ok so I love coming here and elsewhere on the internet to check out what people are making and the crazy prices people are paying for there phones, some justified at the amount of processing power but way above anything I would pay for a phone. I have a laptop for the internet and when I am out and about I am normally walking or driving or talking so to have a small computer is crazy for day to day use, for me that is.

The other day I got my wife a new phone, she had a Samsung Monte for a while and was rather happy with that but I thought I would treat her to something with a larger screen, she loves displaying photos and using social networking apps to keep up with the family overseas,And she really needed an android phone with all the apps she can use.

So I searched and I searched and I decided on the Ascend G300. It has a 4" screen or 4.3" I am not 100% sure,she is crazy madly in love with it and the pink bumper I got for her to put on it.

I just updated to ics for her and she has mentioned a few times how much faster it is, so it must have made a big difference.

Now I know there are some amazing phones out there but if you do anything in the next few days try to get your hands on one of these phones and you will realise why Huawei is number 4 on the list above.

And what did I pay for this amazing device, £90.00 yup that is not a typing error, an amazingly fast smooth and responsive phone for under £100. It has the screen size of the iphone or a little bigger and it can do everything that an iphone does almost. With one of the latest versions of the Android OS that some phones still have to upgrade to this phone is the bees knees and even though I am not interested in buying a smartphone this is so tempting at the price for what it is, even if I just use the sat-nav on it from time to time it will be worth the money.

By messele on 11/16/12, Rating: -1
RE: Sony
By inighthawki on 11/16/2012 3:38:56 PM , Rating: 5
Sohaving industry leading memory, processing chips, and SSDs and amazing technologies such as Super AMOLED are considered "monkey see monkey do?" You sure have an interesting take on technology...

RE: Sony
By Mitch101 on 11/16/2012 8:11:15 PM , Rating: 2
It has similar specs to the Galaxy 4 that will be out most likely before Sony's device.

Galaxy S4 Rumored Specs
2Ghz quad-core Cortex A15, 2GB of RAM, 32GB of internal memory, a 13MP camera

RE: Sony
By messele on 11/17/2012 8:30:37 AM , Rating: 2
Well, yeah since they didn't invent any of the technologies behind these things, they are just the cheapest manufacturer and therefore the biggest name.

Toshiba are the inventors of NAND memory.

The patents for OLED are held by a collaboration of American, European and Japanese firms.

The designs for every single one of Samsung's processor cores belong to a British firm.

If anybody had bothered to check up on the hype and scratched the surface they would realise that Samsung's technologies are all in volume manufacturing. It's what they do. It's the reason that they are cheapest.

RE: Sony
By Xplorer4x4 on 11/17/2012 6:49:22 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't see him claim they invented any of these things. Since when does some one have to be an inverter to be an innovator? So I guess Thomas Edision and Henry Ford were not innovators? Samsung excels for there mas-production capabilities, yes, but also because they make high quality components. Cheap components do an OEM absolutely no good if they are not reliable.

Interesting overview of the smartphone market
By Tony Swash on 11/16/12, Rating: -1
By spread on 11/16/2012 11:00:39 PM , Rating: 5
Nobody cares Tony. Don't you have an iDevice to pleasure right about now? It's calling you Tony. It needs your loving.

Crazy old man. "Apple saved me." - Tony Swash

Short Memories re: SONY
By burpnrun on 11/16/12, Rating: -1
By messele on 11/16/12, Rating: -1
"What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders." -- Michael Dell, after being asked what to do with Apple Computer in 1997

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