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Stupid is as stupid does...

A large number of deaths are attributed each year to distracted driving in the United States. Many drivers are too busy texting, making phone calls, or reading (among other things) while driving their cars. If you listen to some people in Washington, the answer to fixing such driving stupidity are even more safety mandates.

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) wants collision-avoidance technology such as forward-collision and lane-departure warning systems, adaptive cruise control, and automatic braking on every car sold in the U.S. These technologies are already available as options on many luxury cars currently on the market.

The problem on the consumer end of things is that these safety features are included in options packages that add $1,000 or more to the price of the vehicle. Automotive manufacturers oppose the NTSB because the added costs would spread to even the most basic automobiles on the market instead of being relegated to more expensive vehicles where buyers are more willing to fork over the money.
 
However, the NTSB believes that this sort of technology can help drivers improve reaction times and avoid crashes.

According to the NHTSA, systems such as the ones it's recommending would make a significant impact on reducing the number of accidents caused by distracted drivers. Accidents caused by distracted drivers account for 60% of highway fatalities.

"We have a chance to take a big bite into that figure," NTSB board member Robert Sumwalt said.

Source: Detroit News



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RE: Automatic Braking
By BioHazardous on 11/15/2012 9:56:47 AM , Rating: 5
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People like you need to learn to cool off and drive safely, then no one would need stupid things like automatic braking.

People who drive slow in the fast lane and pace themselves with the car in the lane next to them so nobody can get around them are of course saints for making sure everybody else drives safely under the speed limit.

As a society, I suppose we should praise this kind of general jackassery, even though it's the law that you shouldn't be in the fast lane if you're going slower than the rest of the traffic behind you.

I'm clearly the problem having never been in an accident.


RE: Automatic Braking
By Dr of crap on 11/15/2012 10:06:40 AM , Rating: 2
WELL SAID!


RE: Automatic Braking
By Jeffk464 on 11/15/12, Rating: 0
RE: Automatic Braking
By BioHazardous on 11/15/2012 1:23:57 PM , Rating: 2
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First thing I do when I notice an impatient hot head drive is slowly start letting off the gas. Accomplishes two things pisses you off and gets you away from me.
This right here is the problem and why there are accidents. People who think they're above common courtesy who purposely slam on the brakes to prove a point, drive slower than necessary, make U-turns where they shouldn't be, dash across three lanes of traffic without looking, to get on an exit ramp they forgot they needed, not signaling, driving erratic speeds, texting, talking on the phone and not paying attention.. People who won't let the fact that other drivers are on the road stop them from doing ridiculous BS moves that completely stop the flow of traffic and/or nearly cause accidents every turn they make.

Purposely inciting road rage seems to be a great solution. Keep it up.


RE: Automatic Braking
By FITCamaro on 11/15/2012 1:32:18 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. I used to do that, but as I've gotten a little older, I've just stayed in the right lane unless I'm passing.

I've been in one accident that I didn't cause and couldn't avoid (rearended while at a complete stop). Can count on one hand the number of tickets to my name as well in 12 years.


RE: Automatic Braking
By Azethoth on 11/15/2012 7:51:17 PM , Rating: 2
Dunno how many lanes you are talking about but if its 3+ then please get the hell out of the right lane. It is the merging / exiting lane and it is where the vast majority of highway accidents occur (as in 95% iirc). Hanging out in it is truly asking for [stuff] to happen and making stuff happen just by being there.

As for rear-end while stopped, truly good drivers leave room ahead and plan a quick escape to get out of the way of rear enders. You need to be vigilant till that next car displays a readiness and ability to stop properly. Of course, if there is no escape route, then you are well and truly at their mercy and screwed if they suck at driving.


RE: Automatic Braking
By Sahrin on 11/15/2012 1:25:44 PM , Rating: 2
Ah, the myth of innocence.

You may very well have never been in an accident. This doesn't mean you haven't caused any; and it *certainly* does not mean that you are a safe driver. "Your Honor, I may have blown a .5 on the breathalyzer, but I drive that way all the time. It's not unsafe if I've never had an accident."

The poster you replied to is absolutely right; statistically speaking your driving habits are exactly what causes accidents. You drive in the same manner as a distracted driver, and for that reason the safety systems will actually make you a better driver. Sorry you don't get to keep endangering other people's lives. I'll see if I can find some sad violin music to play at the not funerals of people who don't die as a result of your minimal loss of privilege.


RE: Automatic Braking
By BioHazardous on 11/15/2012 1:37:28 PM , Rating: 2
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Ah, the myth of innocence.
Ahh assuming too much about how I actually drive based on one comment saying I occasionally (rarely) make a move where I worry about how automatic braking would possibly make a situation worse.

Go on assuming the wrong things though, that's your right.


RE: Automatic Braking
By boeush on 11/15/2012 2:01:37 PM , Rating: 2
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are of course saints for making sure everybody else drives safely under the speed limit
Where I drive, it's usually the case that everyone consistently goes 5-10 over the speed limit. But there's always some asshat in a beeeeemer thinking he's (it's usually a 'he') on an autobahn, and expecting everyone to scamper out of his way and crowd the middle lane just so that he can rocket merrily onward to his next speeding ticket...
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it's the law that you shouldn't be in the fast lane if you're going slower than the rest of the traffic behind you
It's also the law not to significantly exceed speed limits. I believe in many states going 20 over is actually considered a felony, yet I see people do that all the time and far more frequently than going "safely under the speed limit".
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I'm clearly the problem having never been in an accident.
And the guy who liked playing Russian Roulette had never blown his brains out, either. Until one day he did...


RE: Automatic Braking
By BioHazardous on 11/15/2012 2:20:00 PM , Rating: 2
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And the guy who liked playing Russian Roulette had never blown his brains out, either. Until one day he did...
Again, another person reading way too far into what I said. My only point was that there's going to be occasions where accelerating around something or getting close to something is safer than braking. In those instances, will automatic braking f*ck you over and cause an accident where you would have normally avoided one?

I never said I was speeding down the road 100% of the time going 30mph over the limit weaving in and out of traffic, tailgating, and other general jackassery that over aggressive drivers do. I said essentially and maybe the modifer of 'rare' was a necessity for people to understand my point better.. On rare occasion I make an aggressive move, be it to avoid a bottleneck, or something worse.

Braking is not the answer to avoiding all situations that could be problematic, and a car that takes that decision away from me is not something I'm in favor of. Sure 80% of the population that already drives distracted would benefit from automatic braking.. That's not my point though. My point is how beneficial is it to the driver that's actually paying attention and knows when to accelerate out of problems and when to brake.


RE: Automatic Braking
By Rukkian on 11/16/2012 12:17:44 PM , Rating: 2
It does help you since hopefully less of the idiots out there hit you/others and there should (in theory) be less traffic jams and other situations you need to go around.


RE: Automatic Braking
By Azethoth on 11/15/2012 7:55:59 PM , Rating: 2
Not in Nevada. I got clocked doing 108 mph after slowing down for a turn and was informed if I was driving much faster I would have to go to jail instead of just contributing to some town's taxes.

108 - 65 = 43 mph


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