Sources: Microsoft, The Verge, AllThingsD, CNET
quote: Tony, as I have been telling you, you are outed here. No-one believes a thing you write.
quote: I didn't say Microsoft was floundering because of dumping Sinofsky.
quote: So your post had no relevance to the topic at hand. It was just a random fanboy rant at a competitor you don't like.
quote: I'm also guessing you haven't heard that Office is coming to iOS and Android.
quote: Microsoft have developed software for Apple platforms for years. They're still doing it. It's not an either/or situation where they either abandon Windows or the develop only for Windows. They're doing both.
quote: It's also hilarious that you think iOS and Android are going to dominate. I seen loads of iOS devices and Android devices in business today. I have yet to see one that has actually replaced a Windows PC.
quote: The problem with you is not something anyone needs to say. You've admitted it right there in the first and last paragraph of that post. Everything you accuse "Apple-haters" of doing, you yourself are guilty of doing when looking at Microsoft - because you are a fanboy for one company and you hate the other. Every time you laugh at someone, saying they have blinkers on because they hate Apple so much, just swap Apple for Microsoft and apply the same statement to yourself.
quote: If MS really think they can become a serious OS player on mobile devices then they won't do Office for rival platforms.
quote: Who was talking about PCs and the desktop market? That's yesterday. Tomorrow is mobile devices. That doesn't mean that Windows on PCs will go away but it will become commercially and logistically a minority player. Mobile devices are rapidly approaching Windows installed base and will pass them very soon and grow much bigger. Mobile devices are a vastly larger commercial space than the desktop. Apple's iPhone business is already bigger than the whole of Microsoft. So far Microsoft has nothing viable and of any consequence in play in these new markets. Android and iOS dominate the new markets. The choice Microsoft has to make is how much does it shape it's efforts to try to lever the remaining clout of Windows/Office in order to secure a foothold as an operating system purveyor in the new markets and how much does it abandon that ambition. If it abandoned that ambition (of being a vendor of a mobile OS) it could concentrate on exploiting these new markets, which will be inevitably dominated by OS made by other companies, as markets into which it can sell it's software.
quote: Possibly. There is a difference however. Nobody, so far, is forced to use an Apple product. During the long dark period when Windows/Office dominated the tech world I spent years in various work environments where I had to use Microsoft's shoddy, ugly and dysfunctional crap. I earned the right to actively dislike them and gloat at their failures. Apple haters on the other hand seem to get all frothed up about products they never use and will never be forced to use. It seems so puerile.
quote: lso, as someone who has used MacOS in versions prior to OSX, I can attest that shoddy, dysfunctional software is not something that only Microsoft is guilty of.
quote: See, that's where you are making random, unfounded generalisations. For one, you don't know what some people may have been forced to use. Unless you know these "anti-Apple," folks personally, you don't actually know what their problem is with Apple. You are just making an assumption and attacking that. A strawman argument, they call that.
quote: I'd also finish off by saying that your use of past-tense (you "spent" years, you "had" to use), I would assume you no longer have to use Microsoft software. Consequently, you are now just as guilty of the reasons you are deriding other of. You are taking pleasure in slagging off a firm who's products you do not have to use
quote: Yep the Mac OS prior to MacOSX had lots of problems. At the time it was still better than Windows though. We used to call Windows 95 'Mac 89" :)
quote: OK - hands up who hates Apple because they forced to use Apple products?
quote: Microsoft poisoned the world of computing with their ghastly badly made crap for a generation and in the process disempowered countless millions of users who think that computer viruses, the BSOD and the loss of precious data is an unavoidable part of computing and that they were stupid for finding their computers hard to use. I am so glad their hegemony is over but I will forever relish their every pain. And boy have they got a lot of pain coming. The cliff looms.