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They're due out in 2013 and 2014

BMW is due to release a slew of new turbo diesel engines in the United States throughout 2013 and 2014. 

Among those in the diesel lineup is the F30 3 Series sedan diesel, due out in the first half of 2013; the F31 3 Series touring, due out in the second half of 2013; the F10 5 Series diesel, due out in the third quarter of 2013; the X5d diesel, due out at the end of 2013; the 7 Series diesel, due in the first half of 2014, and the X3d diesel, due in the first half of 2014. 

According to F30Post, a 180 HP 4-cylinder engine may be assigned to 20d or 25d models while a 255 HP 6-cylinder engine may be assigned to 28d, 30d or 35d models. However, no official announcements have been made in that regard. 

The U.S. had some other exciting diesel-related announcements this year as well, such as Porsche's first diesel model for the U.S. (the 2013 Cayenne Diesel), and Mazda said it was bringing a diesel engine to the U.S. by 2014

Source: F30post



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BMW already has Diesels in the U.S.
By Beenthere on 11/7/2012 10:42:04 AM , Rating: 1
FYI - BMW has had Diesels in the U.S. for years. These are additional Diesel models they will be offering.

As far as Diesels are concerned, modern Diesel engines are clean, fuel efficient and extremely practical. Unfortunately Bama and the clowns at the EPA don't want clean Diesels in America like the rest of the word enjoys, they want to force consumers to buy impractical EVs and over-priced hybrids.

The U.S. government is so corrupt and clueless that it makes third world countries look good. There will be a day when these criminals are held accountable.




RE: BMW already has Diesels in the U.S.
By Mint on 11/7/2012 1:35:09 PM , Rating: 2
You are just all kinds of misinformed.

Diesels aren't as clean as even regular gas engines. The posterchild Jetta TDI, for example, gets a mediocre bin 5 certification, while modern gas engines do much better.

Diesels have a price premium also, and newer plugin EVs like the CMax and Fusion have lower lifetime cost than either (even without tax credit). Don't forget that plugins/hybrid offload a lot of engine runtime/stress to the electric motor, so despite the myth, they're quite reliable. Take a look at the recent Consumer Reports reliability survey, where the most reliable model for many manufacturers is a hybrid or plugin.

Speaking of the Jetta, VW is about to start selling a 170hp, 45-MPG-combined hybrid for 2013 ($25k). If you drive enough to make a Jetta TDI (34 MPG, $23k) break even over a Jetta SE (26 MPG, $21k), then the hybrid will be even better.


RE: BMW already has Diesels in the U.S.
By superstition on 11/7/2012 4:00:19 PM , Rating: 2
The Jetta is not the "poster child". That would be the Passat. The Passat has urea treatment, so its exhaust is cleaner and its efficiency is higher because it doesn't use as much fuel for emissions treatment, resulting in higher MPGs.


RE: BMW already has Diesels in the U.S.
By Lord 666 on 11/7/2012 11:55:25 PM , Rating: 2
WTF are you talking about? The 2012 tdi passat uses the same exact motor as the 2012 tdi jetta. It is that fact why i am holding off on it because it is too underpowered for me in a car the size of the passat, but ok in the jetta.

not sure what your definition of poster child is... without a doubt the single car in the US that has perpetuated and kept the diesel movement alive is the jetta. Prior to the 2012 tdi passat, the last year it was available in diesel was 2005!


RE: BMW already has Diesels in the U.S.
By toxicant on 11/8/2012 4:02:57 AM , Rating: 2
The 2012 Passat uses urea injection, unlike the Jetta which only uses DPF. Both cars are rated at the same MPG despite the Passat weighing nearly 300 lbs more. Yes, it feels slightly underpowered compared to the more nimble Jetta.


RE: BMW already has Diesels in the U.S.
By superstition on 11/9/2012 3:33:33 PM , Rating: 2
That's a subjective call. I don't feel mine is underpowered at all, especially with higher-quality diesel (like CountryMark).


By Lord 666 on 11/10/2012 4:17:52 AM , Rating: 2
The irony is we drove our 2006 Jetta TDI to the test drive and came away underwhelmed by the performance of the TDI Passat. VW should make the 3.0 TDI as an optional package for the Passat. The Q7/Toureg are balanced with the 3.0 so the Passat will be enjoyable to drive and still frugal on fuel.

In related news, was eyeing the used market for a 2006 Toureg TDI... the one with the V10. I don't care how many quarts of oil it needs or what comes out the exhaust, driving that truck made me smile. Unfortunately, my wife is insisting on a third row so Q7 is taking the lead right now.


RE: BMW already has Diesels in the U.S.
By Mint on 11/9/2012 11:33:09 AM , Rating: 2
Doesn't make a difference:
http://webpages.charter.net/lmarz/emissions2012.ht...
Passat TDI is bin 5
Passat 2.5L is bin 2

Other than particulate matter (where diesels have made great progress), that's a factor of 2-4x in pollutants between the two.


By superstition on 11/9/2012 3:30:46 PM , Rating: 2
What does that site say? Let's find out:

quote:
As can be seen, "clean diesel" vehicles are generally no "worse" with respect to total well-to-wheels emissions than the cleanest gasoline vehicles due to the nature of the very low volatility of diesel fuel and overall lower emissions in the WTP phase, even though the Passat TDI is "only" certified T2B5/ULEV II, while the 2.5 gasoline version is certified T2B2/PZEV. In fact, total well-to-wheels emissions are lower across-the-board in the case of the VW Passat TDI.

...

Based on these EPA emission factors, even the Euro-spec Passat TDI has lower WTW criteria pollutant emissions across-the-board than the PZEV version of the gasoline Passat.


Plus, the 32.80 MPG rating used for the TDI is not representative of many TDI drivers who use the car for long highway commutes. The highway MPG of the 2012 Passat TDI is much much better. If someone buys the car to mainly use for short stop/go trips then they bought the wrong type of car.


By Lord 666 on 11/8/2012 12:01:05 AM , Rating: 2
And a diesel hybrid would be even that much better at 70mpg US. But per VW, that vehicle would be too expensive.

I say build it and buyers will come.


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