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Ballmer makes the pitch for Windows Phone 8

Windows Phone barely registers in the minds of customers looking to purchase smartphones. Most of the general populous walking into a mobile store these days has already predetermined that they will select an iPhone or one of the members from the growing Android Army. RIM's Blackberry OS and Windows Phone are continuing to take a backseat in the lucrative smartphone market.
With this is mind, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is still confident that things will change with Windows Phone 8. The recently launched smartphone operating system definitely looks slick, but is it compelling enough to attract not only new customers, but also legions of developers to make the platform thrive?

In a recent launch event in Israel, Ballmer seemed to disregard RIM and said that Microsoft is working with a number of OEM partners to make Windows Phone 8 a "really strong third participant" in the market.
Ballmer also went on to say that Windows Phone is "still relatively small", but that he "Expect[s] the volumes on Windows Phone to really ramp quickly."
When it comes to enthusiasm for the platform, we know that Ballmer is all in. The boisterous CEO recently narrated a commercial that showcases the highlights of Windows Phone 8.

Source: Reuters

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RE: Not available
By retrospooty on 11/5/2012 9:32:34 AM , Rating: 2
That does seems odd.

You want to gain marketshare and have a quick ramp, you contract with manufacturers and all major carriers to have a phone available day 1. Verizon and AT&T are the #1 and #2 carriers. Where's the phones?

RE: Not available
By PsychoPif on 11/5/2012 10:49:19 AM , Rating: 2
That's the real problem with WP.

It's not because it does'nt have marketshare or some obscure feature only enthusiast use.

If customers would walk into a store and half the phone sold to them were running WP. They would at least consider it, see that it's great and the market share would grow.

But as much as I think WP is the best mobile OS, I can't deny the fact that I still can't get my hand on a damn phone.

RE: Not available
By BabelHuber on 11/5/12, Rating: -1
RE: Not available
By tayb on 11/5/2012 11:50:59 AM , Rating: 3
Bluetooth is not the only way to transfer contacts. Do you think that people buying Windows Phones just manually type out all their new contacts...? There are other ways to transfer...

Also, Windows Phone 8 supports BTF anyway so I'm not sure what your point is here.

When the sales guy sells 10 WP-phones and gets 5 returned, he thinks 'this phone creates high return rates, so I have more work'. And then the sales guy thinks 'In the future, I'll sell Android and iOS instead'.

It's hard to find unbiased surveys but most "satisfaction" surveys I've looked at have iOS #1, WP7 #2, Android #3. Here's one from PCMag:,2817,2402202, I've seen no indications that Windows Phone has a high return rate at all.

RE: Not available
By BabelHuber on 11/5/12, Rating: 0
RE: Not available
By Jeffk464 on 11/5/2012 3:51:02 PM , Rating: 2
What, no I just log into my google account and all my contacts, emails, calendar, documents, and everything populate. Makes the switch to WP8 sound like a pain if this doesn't happen.

RE: Not available
By AntDX316 on 11/5/2012 9:45:23 PM , Rating: 3

the LG optimus G is better than any Windows Phone 8 in everything

RE: Not available
By MartyLK on 11/5/2012 12:16:19 PM , Rating: 2
I still have a WP7 phone. But that's only because it's way past the return period and it's worthless as a sale item. It's burdened with a dead system - WP7. I made the mistake of believing MS was going to be a strong runner in the smartphone arena with all of the hype leading up to WP7's release 2 years ago. Not only was WP7 *not* a strong runner, but it wasn't even viable and would be dead in 2 years. What's that say for WP8? Will it be a viable system or will it be dead in 2 years also?

All I know as a consumer, I'm not willing to chance it and will avoid any mobile system from MS. There just is absolutely zero need to look anywhere else than Android right now. Android can do it all.

RE: Not available
By Etsp on 11/5/2012 2:30:26 PM , Rating: 2
Sadly, it turns out that Microsoft's strategy was that WP7 was to be a bridge between Windows Mobile 6 and WP8. In this, they have succeeded. Though they certainly didn't market it as such.

The major feature to my mind regarding WP8 is the ability to run natively coded apps. This makes porting apps from other platforms much much easier. I wouldn't be surprised to see a big jump in WP8 apps compared to WP7 as a result of this.

As far as getting abandoned in a dead system is concerned, most Android phones don't seem to get updated to the latest and greatest, but rather are left behind. iOS was better about this, but they still cut features on older devices.

Microsoft seems to have done this feature cutting and device abandoning faster with WP7 to WP8, but that is only a single datapoint. It doesn't establish a trend. Hopefully, it won't and WP8 devices will get software updates for at least a couple years. We just have to wait and see.

RE: Not available
By MartyLK on 11/5/2012 3:51:41 PM , Rating: 2
As far as getting abandoned in a dead system is concerned, most Android phones don't seem to get updated to the latest and greatest, but rather are left behind. iOS was better about this, but they still cut features on older devices.

This isn't the case with Google branded phones. Google's older Nexus phones, like the Nexus S which is several years old, are still being officially updated to the latest software, including currently Android 4.1.2 and will receive Android 4.2.

Any OEM Android phone is subject to the OEM's choices. Samsung tends to update 1 to 2 year old phones with current software. HTC tends to do about the same. But there are some OEMs, like Motorola, for instance, who usually (note: not always) won't even update brand new devices. With them, what you get when you buy it is all it will ever have.

But as far as Google goes, their phones and devices receive updates as soon as new software is released. However, having said that, if any of Google's devices happen to be carrier branded - like the Nexus S, any proposed software updates require the carrier's approval and testing phase before it will be released to the device.

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