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The Boeing 787 Dreamliner departed Bush Intercontinental Airport 7:20 a.m. on Sunday, November 4

Boeing finally sent its 787 Dreamliner on its North American debut Sunday morning after several delays over the years

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner departed Bush Intercontinental Airport 7:20 a.m. on Sunday, November 4. The new plane carried over 200 passengers from Houston to Chicago, touching the ground two and a half hours after taking off. 

Shortly before the flight took place, United Airlines completed its Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) certification process for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.

"I want to thank my co-workers who worked so carefully and professionally to get United certified to operate the Dreamliner," said Jeff Smisek, president and CEO of United Continental Holdings Inc. (the holding company for United Airlines). "Many people from across the company put in a lot of work to help us induct and prepare to operate the 787, and I'm proud to share this important day with all of them."

The 787 Dreamliner was delayed for years before this official debut, mainly due to manufacturing and cost-related issues. Delays have dated back as far as 2008.

?787 Dreamliner business first cabin

The first 787 Dreamliner made its maiden flight in December 2009.

The 787 Dreamliner is an efficient airplane made of lightweight carbon composites, which features a whole new passenger experience with dimmable windows, LED lights, reclining business class seats and even higher humidity. These lighter materials mean airlines can use less fuel.

The Dreamliners have 36 first-class seats, 70 premium-economy seats and 113 economy seats. United said it ordered 50 787s. 

Source: United Hub

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RE: 787
By Brandon Hill on 11/5/2012 3:42:35 PM , Rating: 3
Really once I'm in my seat I can't hardly tell what kind of plane I'm in.

Same here, then again, I put on my noise canceling headphones and zone the eff out :)

RE: 787
By Reclaimer77 on 11/5/2012 4:17:07 PM , Rating: 1
You can tune out the noise, sure. But you can't tune out the jittery ride!

My last flight out when we got to cruising alt this Airbus was..well it's hard to explain, but the entire airframe was like oscillating back and forth. I could feel it in my seat and even see it. If I focused on the headrest at the front, I could see the headrests swaying back and forth like a slithering snake or something.

I asked the stewardess if there was turbulence or wind gusts and she said there wasn't. So I asked her why the freaking plane was behaving the way it was, and she just said "Oh it always does that".


Never again man. Americans invented the aircraft, we invented the airline industry, and we invented international flights. Keep playing catch up Airbus, maybe one day...

RE: 787
By Amiga500 on 11/5/2012 5:43:03 PM , Rating: 2
Unsurprisingly Reclaimer in talking sh!te shocker.

It is quite well known on narrowbody, Airbus built more flex into the wings to give a smoother ride relative to the 737, same with the A330 vis-a-vis the 757/767 - so where you get the jittery ride from I have no idea. The only logical conclusion is your imagination.

If you are wondering about the headrests at the front of the aircraft move relative to you, I can assume you've never sat in the back of a 747 taking off? Fuselages flex, all of them, Airbus, Boeing, Bombardier, Embraer.

Regarding invented this, that and the other - I could poke gaping holes in all those statements. But you wouldn't listen so I will not bother.

RE: 787
By Reclaimer77 on 11/5/12, Rating: 0
RE: 787
By Reclaimer77 on 11/5/12, Rating: 0
RE: 787
By Heidfirst on 11/5/12, Rating: 0
RE: 787
By Reclaimer77 on 11/5/2012 9:17:15 PM , Rating: 2
They didn't?

the first airline is generally reckoned to have been German

Using blimps! You really think that counts as an "airline"?

Anyway this is silly. America pioneered flight and every advancement that came afterwards. Deal with the historical facts.

RE: 787
By Samus on 11/5/2012 11:30:29 PM , Rating: 2
Sure, next thing you're going to say is America pioneered the automobile, firearm technology and the personal computer...ohh wait.

RE: 787
By Reclaimer77 on 11/6/2012 9:55:50 AM , Rating: 1
Sure, next thing you're going to say is America pioneered the automobile, firearm technology and the personal computer...ohh wait.

lol :)

RE: 787
By Fritzr on 11/6/2012 2:41:35 AM , Rating: 3
Otto Lillienthal was an American?

1909 (Germany) first passenger airline, DELAG (Deutsche Luftschiffahrts-Aktiengesellschaft)
1912 (Germany) First flight attendant (Steward/Stewardess) Heinrich Kubis
1919 (USA) Kansas City-based Commercial Airship Syndicate, Ltd. [First American Airline]

Omitting dirigible airships (which were definitely commercial airliners) we have
1913 (Russia) Sikorsky Ilya Muromets
1919 (France) Farman F.60 Goliath
1919 (Germany) Junkers F.13 [First all metal]
1925 (USA) Ford Tri-Motor [First American!]
1943 (USA) Lockheed L-049 Constellation [First pressurized cabin]
1948 (UK) Vickers VC.1 Viking [First pure jet airliner]
1949 (UK) de Havilland DH 106 Comet [First production jetliner]

Yep, you're right the Yanks had the first airline, first airliner and the first in everything else...

RE: 787
By retrospooty on 11/6/2012 12:19:01 PM , Rating: 3
You are confusing airline with airplane. The Wright brothers were the first to fly in an airplane, which they also invented.

An airline is a company that uses airplanes (that were invented by the 2 Americans) to shuttle people around.

See the difference?

RE: 787
By retrospooty on 11/6/2012 12:19:56 PM , Rating: 2
Meant to add, the Wright brothers did it in 1903. Duh.

RE: 787
By hduser on 11/6/2012 12:50:19 PM , Rating: 1
The Wright Brothers didn't invent the airplane. They perfected a method of controlled flight. I believe there were airplanes but they flew in a straight line and mostly a novelty.

The Wright Brother's meticulous method of testing (scale modeling, and wind tunnels) made the idea of their warped wing come to life. They tamed flying to something manageable and practical.

RE: 787
By Reclaimer77 on 11/6/12, Rating: 0
RE: 787
By hduser on 11/6/2012 5:26:22 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not marginalizing the Wright Brothers feat. It was an amazing engineering achievement for the era and an important milestone.

RE: 787
By Keeir on 11/6/2012 1:35:22 PM , Rating: 3
Sorry. No.

Before the Wright brothers, there were -no- self-powered planes capable of carrying a person for -any- length of time.

Not only were the Wright Brothers the first to ever demonstrate a definate self-powered flight (as opposed to using gravity to build up kinetic energy and then using the kinetic energy to generate lift), but years before anyone else even got off the ground they were capable of flying for 20-30 minutes over miles.

RE: 787
By hduser on 11/6/2012 5:20:27 PM , Rating: 2
May I introduce you to Clement Ader?

He got it off the ground and was barely in control.

The Wright Brothers did achieve a heck of a lot more though.

RE: 787
By Keeir on 11/6/2012 6:02:05 PM , Rating: 2
Too bad reading comprehension is difficult for you

I think you also ought to read my statement

Not only were the Wright Brothers the first to ever demonstrate a definate self-powered flight

Other people claim to have had self-powered flight. And they may have acchieved self-powered flight. None actually seceeding in having a repeatable solution that performed upon public demonstration.

RE: 787
By hduser on 11/6/2012 8:46:45 PM , Rating: 2
Nothing wrong with my reading and comprehension compared to your spelling and politeness.

RE: 787
By tamalero on 11/7/2012 1:29:55 PM , Rating: 2
its amazing how it always ends in a e-penis contest regarding who is better.. boeing or airbus.

almost as bad as a presidential campaign or religious talk.

RE: 787
By syslog2000 on 11/5/2012 5:43:06 PM , Rating: 3

Were you sitting in the tail section maybe? The mid to front section of any aircraft is a lot smoother than the tail...

I have done many (too many) long haul flights on both Airbus and Boeing and can confidently concur that once you are in the seat, you can't tell what plane you are flying...

RE: 787
By Solandri on 11/5/2012 9:53:47 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like he was in the tail and experiencing a dutch roll.

Here's the best video I could find showing the tail-wagging that happens in a dutch roll:

Obviously it's exaggerated in the video, but even with a smaller amplitude the yawing motion is exaggerated in the tail section of long planes. The yaw damper helps minimize it, but doesn't eliminate it entirely (it's one of the fundamental stable modes of plane motion). I've felt it at times in pretty much every type of plane I've been on, and even aboard a hydrofoil ship. Boeing had the problem early on with the 777, with a lot of passengers in the back getting sick. I think they fixed it with a software patch which changed how the yaw damper worked.

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