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SpaceX's Dragon in the Pacific Ocean  (Source:
At 12:22 p.m. PST on Sunday, the Dragon landed in the Pacific Ocean

SpaceX's Dragon capsule has safely returned from its first official journey to the International Space Station (ISS).

At 12:22 p.m. PST on Sunday, the Dragon landed in the Pacific Ocean approximately 250 miles off of the coast of southern California. SpaceX's capsule had left the ISS early Sunday morning.

The Dragon brought home 1,673 pounds of cargo from the ISS, including scientific samples, hardware and supplies. It took about 800 pounds of supplies to the ISS earlier this month.

The SpaceX recovery team is in the process of moving the Dragon to a port near Los Angeles by boat, where a portion of the cargo will be given to NASA. The rest of the cargo will be delivered to NASA after Dragon is shipped to the SpaceX facility in McGregor, Texas for processing.

"This historic mission signifies the restoration of America's ability to deliver and return critical space station cargo," said SpaceX CEO and Chief Technical Officer Elon Musk. "The reliability of SpaceX's technology and the strength of our partnership with NASA provide a strong foundation for future missions and achievements to come."

SpaceX stepped in with its Dragon capsule and Falcon 9 rocket as a means to send supplies (and eventually astronauts) to the ISS after NASA retired its space shuttle fleet in 2011. This left American astronauts with no way to the ISS except aboard a Russian Soyuz rocket, but these seats became very costly.

SpaceX flew its Dragon capsule and Falcon 9 rocket to the ISS for the first time back in May for a test supply run. After that successful trip, SpaceX and NASA signed a $1.6 billion contract that allows SpaceX to complete 12 supply trips to the ISS and back.

On October 7, SpaceX made its first official supply run as part of that contract. It arrived October 10, and now, three weeks later, Dragon is back safely. The mission was a success.

Dragon is due to make its second run in January 2013. SpaceX is also looking to send the first manned Dragon capsule to the ISS somewhere between 2015 and 2017.

Source: SpaceX

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By kattanna on 10/29/2012 11:02:13 AM , Rating: 5
congrats on a job well done!

RE: congrats!
By superPC on 10/29/2012 11:58:27 AM , Rating: 2
congratulation is in order. so far SpaceX is three for three in launching dragon. it hasn't failed putting a dragon into orbit and back. I really hope they kept on succeeding.

i still don’t get it. how come boeing, lockheed, ESA, and others charges so much for launching a something to orbit? how come none of them posted their price online like SpaceX do?

RE: congrats!
By Samus on 10/29/2012 12:30:24 PM , Rating: 3
Because until SpaceX, you had no competition, causing incredibly high prices and huge profit margins on a niche market.

Why would Boeing or Lockheed (or the Russians) cut someone a deal when they know you don't have any other choice but to fly with them?

This is why SpaceX is an important next step to space travel. NASA pioneered it. SpaceX will make it viable.

RE: congrats!
By drycrust3 on 10/29/12, Rating: 0
RE: congrats!
By Jacerie on 10/29/2012 4:15:43 PM , Rating: 2
On the basis that the cost of each launch and return is equally distributed, then 12 flights for $1.6B = $400m per trip

Last I checked $1.6billion for 12 missions works out to roughly $134 million per trip. Being able to provide the service at one third the price of the space shuttle is huge.

RE: congrats!
By drycrust3 on 10/30/2012 12:58:36 PM , Rating: 2
Duh! What a dummy I was! Definitely should have used a calculator!

RE: congrats!
By Schadenfroh on 10/29/2012 6:10:29 PM , Rating: 1
huge profit margins

Last I checked, traditional defense contracts typically have a profit margin capped at < 10%, I would not call that huge...

RE: congrats!
By Bubbacub on 10/29/2012 12:32:31 PM , Rating: 3
because they are all primarily interested in fleecing their respective tax payers as much as possible.

cost plus contracts encourage profligate waste. a bit of lobbying/bribery to get more spending sent your way is a lot cheaper and easier than becoming vaguely efficient.

the reason why spacex is different is because elon musk actually WANTS to achieve his goal.

the fucktards in the senate and the quislings in nasa who asked for and are happily building the SLS have so little interest in the final goal that they didn't even bother making one up - they want to fleece government funds, channel out their ill gotten gains to their buddies and make sure nobody else tries to eat at the same trough.

RE: congrats!
By FormulaRedline on 10/29/2012 1:42:16 PM , Rating: 2
As a former major defense/space contractor employee (I'll decline to say which one), I'll give my insight that the other posters are directionally correct if not elegant in their wording. The cost plus pricing does not set the right incentives for the contractor to be efficient in their processes, leading to excess waste and therefore high prices. This wouldn't be a problem except that the multiple source strategy of the US government (NASA included) ensures that the major contractors aren't penalized on future business for their inefficiencies.

Example: Did Lockheed just completely blow the budget on the F/A-22? Well Boeing is still selling us all the F-15s and F/A-18s, so we better make sure Lockheed still has business and award them the F-35 and watch them blow the budget and schedule on that, too.

If one company was 10x more efficient than the others, they'd still only get their predetermined share of the business.

Though I loved the products we made, I had had enough of this and moved to a different industry with real market forces. I am very happy to see private companies making inroads into the space industry, even if the defense industry remains entrenched with the incumbents.

RE: congrats!
By kattanna on 10/29/2012 3:47:44 PM , Rating: 3
i still don’t get it. how come boeing, lockheed, ESA, and others charges so much for launching a something to orbit?

one very big reason is that everything, for the most part, on spacex side is all made within one plant in california.

other craft can have a bolt made on the west coast.. that needs a nut made on the east coast.. that all have to be shipped to somewhere else to be assembled..shipped somewhere else to be inspected.. then shipped again to another location for final assembly. the reason for it is to ensure spending in states so a member of congress will vote for it. so then those members of congress can tell their constituents what a great person they are because they have brought jobs to their district.

RE: congrats!
By Master Kenobi on 10/29/2012 5:58:01 PM , Rating: 1
Yeap, you pretty much nailed it. This is the single biggest reason shit costs more than it should.

RE: congrats!
By Paj on 10/31/2012 10:12:19 AM , Rating: 2
Yep, very cool stuff. Good to see private enterprise taking to space - big things afoot.

Next step - private industry to develop a reusable spaceplane.
UK looks to be leading the pack with Skylon.

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