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  (Source: Android Authority)
However, Apple made sure to highlight a few facts in its favor

As ordered, Apple posted a notice on its UK website saying that Samsung didn't copy the iPad.

A recent UK court ruling ordered Apple to post an apology to Samsung on its website, saying that the South Korean electronics maker didn't steal the designs of the iPad after all. Apple has complied, but with a snarky tone that made sure to highlight a few facts in Apple's favor.

For instance, Apple made sure to note that a German court ruling did find Samsung in violation of copying its patents, and of course, Apple mentioned its August win in the United States where Samsung was ordered to pay $1.05 billion in damages.

Apple even injected the fact that the UK judge thought Apple's designs were cooler than Samsung's.

Here's Apple's full note below, but you can also find it on its UK site here:

Samsung / Apple UK judgment
On 9th July 2012 the High Court of Justice of England and Wales ruled that Samsung Electronic (UK) Limited’s Galaxy Tablet Computer, namely the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Tab 8.9 and Tab 7.7 do not infringe Apple’s registered design No. 0000181607-0001. A copy of the full judgment of the High court is available on the following link www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Patents/2012/1882.html.

In the ruling, the judge made several important points comparing the designs of the Apple and Samsung products:

"The extreme simplicity of the Apple design is striking. Overall it has undecorated flat surfaces with a plate of glass on the front all the way out to a very thin rim and a blank back. There is a crisp edge around the rim and a combination of curves, both at the corners and the sides. The design looks like an object the informed user would want to pick up and hold. It is an understated, smooth and simple product. It is a cool design."

"The informed user's overall impression of each of the Samsung Galaxy Tablets is the following. From the front they belong to the family which includes the Apple design; but the Samsung products are very thin, almost insubstantial members of that family with unusual details on the back. They do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design. They are not as cool."

That Judgment has effect throughout the European Union and was upheld by the Court of Appeal on 18 October 2012. A copy of the Court of Appeal’s judgment is available on the following link www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2012/1339.html. There is no injunction in respect of the registered design in force anywhere in Europe.

However, in a case tried in Germany regarding the same patent, the court found that Samsung engaged in unfair competition by copying the iPad design. A U.S. jury also found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple's design and utility patents, awarding over one billion U.S. dollars in damages to Apple Inc. So while the U.K. court did not find Samsung guilty of infringement, other courts have recognized that in the course of creating its Galaxy tablet, Samsung willfully copied Apple's far more popular iPad.
 
The Apple-Samsung patent war began in April 2011 when Apple claimed Samsung was an "iPhone, iPad copycat." More specifically, Apple said Samsung's Galaxy S 4G, Epic 4G and Nexus smartphones infringed on Apple's patents. 
 
Apple worked pretty hard to ban Samsung's smartphones and tablets around the world, and successfully accomplished this in countries like Germany and Australia. Samsung launched a few lawsuits of its own regarding 3G patents, and was also able to lift the ban on its Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia in December 2011. However, Samsung wasn't so lucky in Germany, where the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is still banned.


Back in August, a jury in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California reached an unfavorable verdict for Samsung, saying that the South Korean electronics maker was guilty of violating technology patents. In other words, most of Samsung's smartphones and tablets in question were found guilt of copying Apple's iPhone and iPad designs. It was ordered to pay $1.05 billion in damages to Apple.

Earlier this week, Samsung Display decided to cut ties with Apple, saying it will no longer ship LCDs to Apple next year. Its LCD shipments to Apple have been cut more and more over time due to Apple wanting huge discounts.

However, just yesterday, an ITC judge in the U.S. ruled that Samsung violated four Apple patents, including
the flat front face with wider borders at the top and bottom, the lozenge-shaped speaker about the display screen; the translucent images for applications displayed on the screen, and the device's ability to detect when a headset is plugged in.

Source: iMore



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LOL
By Tony Swash on 10/26/2012 12:13:31 PM , Rating: -1
When I read the actual statement on the Apple UK site and remembered the bizarre excitement and pleasure it's announcement had brought some of the odder iPhobics I couldn't help but laugh.

I bet this really annoys some people.

Nice one Apple :)




RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2012 12:19:55 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
couldn't help but laugh
That because you are a loser Apple Troll.


RE: LOL
By sprockkets on 10/26/2012 12:20:09 PM , Rating: 1
Do you also take your dick out and wave it in front of android users and jerk it with your iphone 5 users in person as well?


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2012 12:56:40 PM , Rating: 2
Oh look, it's the other loser jumping in.


RE: LOL
By Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer on 10/26/2012 12:59:02 PM , Rating: 5
I'm a "fanboy" of companies competing on their merits, rather than suing each other out of business with patents that should never have been granted.


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: LOL
By Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer on 10/26/2012 1:42:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Me too, so surely you take issue with how much Samsung ripped off the iPhone and iPad with their earlier devices?

Nope. I don't buy that argument at all. That was never what this was about. This was about Steve's insane crusade against Google and Android.
quote:
Me too, so surely you take issue with Samsung seeking to ban the iPhone 4S over 3G patents, and seeking to ban the iPhone 5 over LTE patents, especially given that those are FRAND?

I think if a crazy person comes up to you on the street and takes a swing, you are morally justified in hitting back.


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: LOL
By ritualm on 10/26/2012 6:43:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And the person taking the swing is the person who rips off an entire product range, as numerous courts have found. Apple is the one hitting back.

Why innovate when it's cheaper to just copy? Steve Jobs himself said as much over this topic.

Why do you consider it perfectly acceptable for Apple to plagiarize the work of others and claim credit as their own, but intolerable whenever others do the same?

You are dense, and you are lying when you said you own neither Samsung nor Apple product.


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/27/2012 6:29:11 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why innovate when it's cheaper to just copy? Steve Jobs himself said as much over this topic.


There are two types of 'copying': Legal, and illegal.

Steve Jobs was talking about the former, which in any industry is the process of taking inspiration from other products but adding your value such that you don't infringe any of their designs or patents.

What Samsung did, is the latter, which is why now owe Apple $1bn in damages.

If Apple has infringed patents, feel free to show which ones? If not, it isn't plagiarism - by definition.

And don't try to tell me whether I'm lying or not about what I own, you illogical fool.


RE: LOL
By ritualm on 10/28/2012 6:23:01 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Steve Jobs was talking about the former, which in any industry is the process of taking inspiration from other products but adding your value such that you don't infringe any of their designs or patents.

Funny... Steve Jobs didn't walk his talk.

Samsung walked his talk and the result is $1-billion in phony fines. That's a nicer way of saying Apple extorted $1-billion from South Korea. Which, by the way, is illegal - yet Apple sees nothing wrong with trying to extract three times that amount.

Congrats on sending the wrong message to the world: imitators are rewarded, innovators are punished. Why innovate when you can simply copy with far less legal risk and cost?

You're a lying, illogical, brainwashed, delusional and homophobic sewage refuse. You call me a fool, yet this fool is smarter than you.

You're like Nicki Minaj - juvenile, uncool and unwise. Idiot and fat, best of both worlds huh?


RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2012 1:54:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Me too, so surely you take issue with how much Samsung ripped off the iPhone and iPad with their earlier devices?
No, because anyone with common sense and half a brain cell, once again not you, can see the differences and know they are different products. One clue would be the HUGE Samsung pasted on the front of the phones.

quote:
Me too, so surely you take issue with Samsung seeking to ban the iPhone 4S over 3G patents, and seeking to ban the iPhone 5 over LTE patents, especially given that those are FRAND?
Nope...


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2012 2:38:48 PM , Rating: 1
You keep calling ME a fanboy, you really need to stop, you look like a fucking idiot. Oh wait, you are a fucking idiot.

"I don't defend ANY company" - Your words, yet you are all over the Apple articles like stink on shit.

You are a LOSER, get it? LOSER. You and Tony. Both. Get a fucking LIFE.


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/26/2012 3:49:43 PM , Rating: 1
What I actually said:

quote:
I don't care about any company


I never said I am not defending any company - I told you, in the face of non-stop illogical idiocy which is against Apple, I present the other (and logical) point of view.


RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2012 4:02:30 PM , Rating: 1
Again with the logic shit, you don't have any. Period. You say shit, then completely contradict it. You are a loser.


RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2012 4:13:18 PM , Rating: 1
And again, you say "I don't defend ANY company" yet, you shit all over the Apple articles. You are so full of shit...


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/27/2012 6:31:49 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, how can you fail to read the exact same thing, twice, when I'm even so kind to re-quote it for you?

To quote what I actually said:

quote:
I don't care about any company


Now compare to what you claim I said:

quote:
I don't defend ANY company


Read, learn, please get an education.

I even told you that I never claimed I wasn't defending any company.

Dailytech monkey strikes again...


RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/27/2012 6:56:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Dailytech monkey strikes again...
You sure did.


RE: LOL
By ritualm on 10/28/2012 6:31:13 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Wow, how can you fail to read the exact same thing, twice, when I'm even so kind to re-quote it for you?

Because you are BSing. The manner in which you respond is a dead giveaway. Feel free to dress up cow manure with magical pixie dust, at the end it's still cow manure.
quote:
I don't care about any company

=
quote:
I don't defend ANY company

to which I add
quote:
I don't defend ANY company except Apple

Intelligent Design is Creationism. You fervently support Apple even when you falsely claim to the contrary. "Presenting the other, more logical side?" Yeah right.

Apple-sponsored PR troll strikes again...


RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/28/2012 9:31:20 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
You fervently support Apple even when you falsely claim to the contrary. "Presenting the other, more logical side?" Yeah right.
Bingo! Not only is he a liar, he is an persistent liar.


RE: LOL
By ritualm on 10/26/2012 6:47:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I never said I am not defending any company - I told you, in the face of non-stop illogical idiocy which is against Apple, I present the other (and logical) point of view.

hahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahaahah *deep breath* hahahaahhhhahhahahahahhaa

No, it isn't.

Meanwhile, Apple's stock price dropped past $600 in the face of missed expectations, barely one week after Tony Swash bragged "If you don't buy Apple now, you will regret it."


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/27/2012 6:33:27 PM , Rating: 2
No what isn't? That makes no sense.

And why would I care about Apple stocks, which are currently above 600?


RE: LOL
By retrospooty on 10/26/2012 2:48:37 PM , Rating: 2
"surely you take issue with how much Samsung ripped off the iPhone and iPad with their earlier devices?"


Really man, you need to get some perspective on this...
If you want to say "Apple is being copied", then take it back to the root. Apple "copied" the whole mobile phone idea, as well as putting and OS and apps on a phone from Palm/Handspring. All companies do this. The entire industry builds off ideas of others. It always has, as all industries always have since the dawn of civilization. Its as if to say, Toyota, GM, BMW and Honda shouldn't be allowed to make cars because they all copy Ford.

This is how business is done. The irritating thing is that suddenly after copying others tech for years (and still doing it) they act as if they are above it all with some mock outrage... "how dare they copy us" LOL.


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/27/2012 6:35:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Apple "copied" the whole mobile phone idea, as well as putting and OS and apps on a phone from Palm/Handspring.


Show me the patents they infringed while introducing their mobile phone OS which was completely different from anything from Palm.

You can't. Therefore, legally, they didn't copy.

You need to learn the distinction between taking inspiration and copying patented technology or designs.


RE: LOL
By ritualm on 10/29/2012 8:56:09 AM , Rating: 2
Ha! I bet you cannot show from the iCamp anything that does not come with a huge amount of prior art.

Everything of what you said is full of "Designed by Apple in California" lies and smokescreens. You are a paid Apple shill, you refuse to admit your comments are unfounded and without merit, and you accuse others of trolling.

Come at me bro. Small-time wannabe gangster trying to talk big like an Internets Al Capone, so much LOL.


RE: LOL
By nikon133 on 10/28/2012 4:54:03 PM , Rating: 1
I was personally never-ever tempted to mix Apple product with anything else. In case of Samsung, while some of their product did share some design cues with iProducts, they also shared with previous Samsungs (like F700) and others (like that Sony prototype). Plus, there is always big bold Samsung logo on front of their devices.

If someone got fooled, that is because that someone is fool. I know a lot of people (outside of US) who, out of pure ignorance, still think that Colt is synonym for "revolver" in general (rather than a brand making revolvers, among other things), and Jeep is synonym for 4X4 car.

I wouldn't be surprised that some people think that iPhone is synonym for touch-screen smart-phone, but I cannot blame Samsung for such ignorance.


RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2012 1:03:23 PM , Rating: 2
It's quite amusing how he calls others fanboys, but is so rabid about defending Apple every chance he gets.


RE: LOL
By testerguy on 10/26/2012 1:08:57 PM , Rating: 1
Believe it or not, I don't care about any company. I don't own shares in any of them, and I own neither a Samsung or an Apple phone.

I only have to defend Apple because so many of you on this website defend Samsung so irrationally and illogically, mainly because you have some crazy 'rabid' hatred of Apple.


RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2012 1:11:13 PM , Rating: 1
God, you are so full of shit it really isn't funny anymore. Anyone with half a brain cell on this site, not you, can SEE your rabid fanaticism with Apple.


RE: LOL
By Tony Swash on 10/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: LOL
By degobah77 on 10/26/2012 1:27:24 PM , Rating: 3
Because you're a dick.


RE: LOL
By retrospooty on 10/26/2012 2:09:03 PM , Rating: 1
I don't think he is a dick... He has abolutely no life and therefore gloms on to a company (of all the absurd things) for comfort. Sad and strange.


RE: LOL
By Tony Swash on 10/26/12, Rating: -1
RE: LOL
By Cheesew1z69 on 10/26/2012 2:19:02 PM , Rating: 1
Loser Troll...


RE: LOL
By retrospooty on 10/26/2012 2:26:26 PM , Rating: 3
" iPhobes who will get all frothed up and red faced about it"

This is where you lose reality... You yourself are far too emotionally involved with Apple, therefore you think that anyone that posts contrary to your FUD are all bent out of shape about it.

Get some perspective Tony, its just a company. You like the products, buy the products and be happy with your toys. That is that.


RE: LOL
By bupkus on 10/26/2012 9:02:00 PM , Rating: 1
Oh, how I wish Apple made sex toys. I could so get into that. Ladies, imagine one with the battery life of an iPhone!

What about Apple lubricants and condoms and a blow-up doll of an iPad 3. I'll bet the assemblers at Foxconn would stop killing themselves and instead riot by squirting each other with creams that smell of apples.

Conclusion: I think my fiction is more fun.
Tony, you are not invited to the Christmas party. You're just too mean hearted.


RE: LOL
By bupkus on 10/26/2012 9:02:23 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, how I wish Apple made sex toys. I could so get into that. Ladies, imagine one with the battery life of an iPhone!

What about Apple lubricants and condoms and a blow-up doll of an iPad 3. I'll bet the assemblers at Foxconn would stop killing themselves and instead riot by squirting each other with creams that smell of apples.

Conclusion: I think my fiction is more fun.
Tony, you are not invited to the Christmas party. You're just too mean hearted.


RE: LOL
By nikon133 on 10/28/2012 4:04:09 PM , Rating: 1
I'm sure this will improve their mood:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/10/...

Isn't rubber-banding one of the reasons Samsung got nailed by Judge Dredd and jolly jury? That judgement seems to be slipping away by the day.


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