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Samsung Galaxy S III  (Source: mobilemag.com)
Samsung did well, but many worry that it won't see this amount of money rolling in next year as the smartphone market continues to grow competitive

Samsung reported strong financial earnings in the third quarter, but now faces slowed smartphone momentum in the future as the market gets more crowded.

Samsung posted $7.4 billion USD in Q3 2012 operating profit. Net profit rose 90 percent to $5.9 billion USD. 

During the third quarter, Samsung sold 56.3 million smartphones, giving it a global market share of 31.3 percent. Apple only sold 26.9 million iPhones in the same quarter. The Samsung Galaxy S III alone accounted for 18-20 million shipments from July to September.

While Samsung did well in the smartphone department, particularly with its Galaxy line of devices, it didn't do so hot in chip sales. The chip division dropped 28 percent to $1 billion USD.

Samsung rocked a healthy profit overall this quarter, but many worry that the electronics maker won't see this amount of money rolling in next year as the smartphone market continues to grow competitive.

In fact, Samsung's profit is expected to grow 16 percent next year -- down from this year's predictions of 73 percent.

Samsung has other strong businesses, like tablets and OLED TVs, but analysts say these sectors aren't quite ready to sell the way that Galaxy is selling.

Samsung's tablets, in particular, haven't been able to keep up with the like of the iPad and Kindle Fire. Now, with the iPad Mini and Windows 8 tablets making a fresh appearance into the market (not to mention Google's Nexus 7 and a refreshed Kindle Fire HD line has made its way into the market), Samsung seems to continuously fall behind.

Samsung also took a hard hit with tablets due to its patent war with Apple. Apple worked pretty hard to ban Samsung's smartphones and tablets around the world, and successfully accomplished this in countries like Germany and Australia. Samsung launched a few lawsuits of its own regarding 3G patents, and was also able to lift the ban on its Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia in December 2011. However, Samsung wasn't so lucky in Germany, where the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is still banned.

Back in August, a jury in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California reached an unfavorable verdict for Samsung, saying that the South Korean electronics maker was guilty of violating technology patents. In other words, most of Samsung's smartphones and tablets in question were found guilt of copying Apple's iPhone and iPad designs. It was ordered to pay $1.05 billion in damages to Apple.

Earlier this week, Samsung Display decided to cut ties with Apple, saying it will no longer ship LCDs to Apple next year. Its LCD shipments to Apple have been cut more and more over time due to Apple wanting huge discounts, but the recent patent infringement drama couldn't have helped either.

More recently, an ITC judge found that Samsung violated four Apple patents, including
the flat front face with wider borders at the top and bottom, the lozenge-shaped speaker about the display screen; the translucent images for applications displayed on the screen, and the device's ability to detect when a headset is plugged in.

Samsung did get a little bit of relief in the UK, though, when a judge ordered Apple to post a notice on its UK site that Samsung didn't copy the iPad. Apple complied, but in a very snarky way.



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RE: Impressive
By retrospooty on 10/28/2012 10:48:29 AM , Rating: 2
LOL. Wow, what a long post for someone that claims to be un-biased. Your attempt at being pedantic makes you look more of a fanboy than ever. I wholly disagree with almost everything you wrote, but hey, I have a bit of time, so I will waste a bit more on you. Note, this will be my last post on it, as I have better things to do than sit here and argue with a troll like you.

Lets keep in mind, I started out taking the benefits if the Android platform and you (knowing you cant win that debate) wanted to stear it to be about one phone, so I gave it to you and was correct, but the fact is its NOT about one phone. If you want certain features on Android you buy the phone with those features. With Apple, you are stuck.

As for the lists, you just put in any crap comment to invalidate points doesn't make them invalid. And you just putting in any feature doesn't make it worthwhile to most.

"1 - Larger screen - Yes it is and it is a good thing. Most people want larger screen, that is what is selling froa reason. Even Apple copied this feature and went up this round. You had an empty biased response

2 - Higher resolution screen. this is also true. Pentile isnt quite as good as std, but AMOLED's color rep. is just brilliant. Either you havent looked at a GS3 vs. an iPhone5 side by side (I have), or you are just parroting. While technically speaking the non-pentile may be higher quality, all in all the GS3 wins and it IS a higher res. An empty biased response

3 - NFC - Yes, it is taking off. I am sure next year when Apple adopts it, it will suddenly be imoprtant LOL. An empty biased response

4 - Better Mapping Software. Sorry, you saying some prefer Apple maps means nothing. Google maps is widely known to be far better, and even on Android vs. IOS, its far better. Another rediclous response.

5 - Plays HD Content (without downscaling) - this also is true. I watch it quote alot and its brilliant.

6 - Greater than 5x4 icons - Sorry, but on the iPhone you can have as many icons as you want by simply swiping through screens. - - LOL. I am talking about one scren you dolt. And 5x4 is lacking. Add it up, its 20 icons and its irritaing as hell to have to go through 5 home screens to get to all your regularly used apps. That defeats the point of a "Home" screen.

7 - Flexibility in OS. Wow, you really dont get it. It's not about the OS it's about options. They all have iconsand run the same apps. ITs not about what an OS lacks, its about what else you CAN do with it if you want it.

8- Micro SD Card - yep, although you can buy a $2 adapter to use this - Yes, becasue its wonderful to carry around and adaptor when it should be built into the phone like everyone else has.

9 - Micro USB - Sorry what's the advantage here? Come on, we have been over this before. The thing is to not have to bring your own adaptor everywhere you go because every other phone built on Earth for the past 4-5 years uses the same one and you can charge it anywhere. The advantage is compatibility.

10 - Plug and play as a flash drive to copy files. Again, you need an adaptor to carry around.

Wow, what a great bunch of responses you have. OK, now you have your iPhone and are up to carrying around 3 separate adaptors just to have the iPhone be on par with GS3 (Micro USB, SD, Flash drive compatible) Or is it just 2 and the usb one serves as dual purpose? DO you put them in a separate pocket or just get a separate case? LOL

NOw, lets quickly pick apart your list

1. OK, yes in some countries price is equal. In the US for example, but hte carrier pays that extra price. It DOES cost more.
2,3,4.5 OK thinner by a bit, but hte rest isnt a win its a loss. ITs becasue of the larger superior screen.
6. MAybe. Ill give it to ya.
7,8,9. We already went over this. Yes for now its faster. Wait a few months and well see.
10. FFS< now we need to buy Apple TV. If anyone wanted that they would get an Android with HDMI out and plug it into ANY TV.
11. OK, by a bit.
12. OVerblown. As anetwork admin I manage almost 300 phones about 45/45/10 IOS/Android/Blackberry (BB users are pasing out as contacts expire) and havent seen a single infection on any platform.
13,14 Zealotry... But yes, they are good quality.
15. And the iPhone 4s wasnt. Every phone has its own.
16. This is the first I have heard of Wifi issues. It cant possibly be very widespread.
17. Yes, until you disable it.
18. Yes, but IOS3 to IOS 6 is hardly an upgrade at all. Android upgrades really are upgrades so its harder to work in.
19. Ist that 18?
20. Meh... I look side by side and prefer the GS3 screen. Color and size are the 2 main factors.
21. YEs and it scuffs badly. The GS3 plastic is super hard and doesnt scratch. I dont like its back though SUPER fingerprinty and irritating.
22. PLugging crap into your phone to make it more useful? Better just to buy a better phone.
23. prety much #12. It's patch was fixed before anyone even knew it was an issue. I call that good.
24. LOL. I cant possibly LOL enough to this.
25. Havent looked into it and dont see a purpose.
26. False. It's fine. I have never had mine above 75%.
27. HArware camera button? I press my main home button and get a pic.

Again, the above was about the GS3, but the fact is its NOT about one phone. If you want certain features on Android you buy the phone with those features. With Apple, you are stuck with one model.

I am done with you though. From now you can go hungry troll.


RE: Impressive
By testerguy on 10/28/2012 7:01:19 PM , Rating: 2
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LOL. Wow, what a long post for someone that claims to be un-biased


Because a long list of objective facts indicates bias, in your faux-logic world? Or because your reply isn't also long? So you admit your biased because by your own logic writing a long post indicates bias?

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Lets keep in mind, I started out taking the benefits if the Android platform and you (knowing you cant win that debate) wanted to stear it to be about one phone


Er, no, that isn't the context. The context is that you described the iPhone as overpriced and I told you that given that it has numerous extremely important features / performance that no Android phone has, no single phone can be directly compared to it on price terms. You necessarily had to pick one or your comments were irrelevant.

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1 - Larger screen - Yes it is and it is a good thing. Most people want larger screen, that is what is selling froa reason. Even Apple copied this feature and went up this round. You had an empty biased response


Actually, yours is the biased response. I stated a fact that for some people larger screen is a disadvantage, so it's not necessarily a good thing. You claim that 'most people want larger screen' - something not even provable, let alone a fact. The top 2 best selling phones of all time? iPhone 4S and iPhone 5. Sorry, what sells phones, did you say? There are also people for whom factually one handed use is not possible on the larger screen. The bottom line is that this one is subjective, not objectively something better.

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2 - Higher resolution screen. this is also true. Pentile isnt quite as good as std, but AMOLED's color rep. is just brilliant. Either you havent looked at a GS3 vs. an iPhone5 side by side (I have), or you are just parroting. While technically speaking the non-pentile may be higher quality, all in all the GS3 wins and it IS a higher res. An empty biased response


Feel free to read Anandtechs analysis on the colour accuracy of the iPhone 5 and how it's the best he's ever viewed to be factually proven wrong on this, too. Sorry but the number of pixels is inferior and calling 4 sub pixels 2 pixels doesn't change that. I've seen them side by side and I see the over-saturation of colours that everyone else sees.

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3 - NFC - Yes, it is taking off. I am sure next year when Apple adopts it, it will suddenly be imoprtant LOL. An empty biased response


Sorry, but where I live, it isn't, at all. And when Apple adopts it, you're right, it will become important because people will start to use it. Right now, because the best selling phone ever (and 2nd best) doesn't have it, shops and industry in general are less likely to use it. It's an example of Apple driving the industry. But remember, I allowed this point. It is factually correct.

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4 - Better Mapping Software. Sorry, you saying some prefer Apple maps means nothing. Google maps is widely known to be far better, and even on Android vs. IOS, its far better. Another rediclous response


Actually, saying 'Google Maps is widely known to be far better' is simply factually not true. My claim that many people prefer Apple maps to Googles illustrates that it is subjective and that nobody can objectively claim one is better than the other. You are confusing subjectivity with objectivity. Also, you ignored the fact that Google Maps for iOS is coming out, that there are numerous free alternatives and that you can use Google Maps in the browser.

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5 - Plays HD Content (without downscaling) - this also is true. I watch it quote alot and its brilliant.


Sorry, but to me if you're not watching on full pixels, you're not watching HD. You're watching downscaled HD. Also, nobody watching 'downscaled HD' on the iPhone could perceive any difference due to the superior sub pixel density.

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6 - Greater than 5x4 icons - Sorry, but on the iPhone you can have as many icons as you want by simply swiping through screens. - - LOL. I am talking about one scren you dolt. And 5x4 is lacking. Add it up, its 20 icons and its irritaing as hell to have to go through 5 home screens to get to all your regularly used apps. That defeats the point of a "Home" screen.


I catered for 1 screen by referring to jailbreaking, so you can do what you describe on iPhone. You don't have to scroll through 5 screens, either, you could have folders. This is such a minor, irrelevant cosmetic detail it doesn't belong next to my much more important points such as fundamentally faster hardware and longer battery life.

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7 - Flexibility in OS. Wow, you really dont get it. It's not about the OS it's about options. They all have iconsand run the same apps. ITs not about what an OS lacks, its about what else you CAN do with it if you want it.


A whole lot of words which doesn't give a single useful end goal which you can achieve on Android and not on iOS.

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8- Micro SD Card - yep, although you can buy a $2 adapter to use this - Yes, becasue its wonderful to carry around and adaptor when it should be built into the phone like everyone else has.


Yes, because it's such an issue to carry a tiny light adapter whenever you need to use an SD Card (which for iPhone users is generally never). Adding it into the phone would start to make the phone ugly, plastic and oversized, which is why people generally don't find Android handsets to be desirable or as well made as iPhones. Besides, I allowed this point because it's factually correct.

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9 - Micro USB - Sorry what's the advantage here? Come on, we have been over this before. The thing is to not have to bring your own adaptor everywhere you go because every other phone built on Earth for the past 4-5 years uses the same one and you can charge it anywhere. The advantage is compatibility.


Sorry but, I get a charger with the phone. If I need to use it, I use it. Because iPhones and iPads are the best selling in their genres, also more of my friends have iPhone or iPad chargers than any other type. I've never had to call on that though, so this is a complete non issue. Also, the SG3 breaks compatibility with MHL devices despite claiming to offer MHL. Also, Lightning is reversible, MicroUSB is not - minor but actually more beneficial than your claim. Also, it is more capable than MicroUSB allowing HD video and audio, as well as charging, and control to be carried, which microUSB isn't capable of (which is why Samsung created their own bespoke non compatible 9 pin MHL adapter in the SG3). Besides, I conceded this one as factually correct.

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10 - Plug and play as a flash drive to copy files. Again, you need an adaptor to carry around.


Only if I don't know how to send emails, or use Wifi, or a computer. Or my phones data plan, or any of the hundreds of other methods which there are to transfer files. Besides, I conceded this one as factually correct.


RE: Impressive
By testerguy on 10/28/2012 7:01:54 PM , Rating: 2
1. It doesn't cost more to the consumer in that scenario.
2. Thinner by a significant percentage.
2-5 - being thinner, less tall, and less wide is most definitely an advantage. For obvious reason. Trying to explain why it happens (ie by the screen) is a separate point and doesn't change the fact that it's significantly smaller and lighter. You're just explaining why it is. That doesn't change the fact it is. And larger isn't necessarily 'superior' as we proved above.
6. Good.
7-9 (all faster performance) - You say 'wait a few months'. I've already explained why that argument is ridiculous. It doesn't change the fact that the SG3 is significantly slower, and you're claiming that the SG3 represents better value. With future phones, we don't know their cost, so they cannot be included in our comparison.
10. Yes, you need to buy an Apple TV just like any solution involves purchasing hardware. You can plug an iPhone or iPad into a TV with a HDMI cable too, but wireless is far more convenient. In fact, I read somewhere that Airplay equivalent is the most Googled Android missing feature. The bottom line is that this facility surpasses anything you can do on Android and is a major benefit.
11. Good
12. If you need any of the hundreds of articles articulating more precisely the Malware numbers on Android vs iOS, just say the word and I'll link you several of them.
13,14 Sorry but it isn't 'Zealotry' to state evidenced facts. There are loads of customer satisfaction and reliability surveys and Apple consistently outperforms Samsung in them. You breeze over this like it's insignificant, but savvy customers care a lot about how reliable something is.
15. Whether the iPhone 4S wasn't superior in drop tests or not is irrelevant. We're talking about the iPhone 5. Stay focused. The iPhone 5 is superior in drop tests. Which means more durable, which again is something savvy consumers care about.
16. Actually the Wifi issue represents 50% of all complaints about the SG3 - so it's very widespread.
17. You can't remove all bloatware and I don't expect to have to waste my time removing it anyway.
18. You claim that 'IOS3 to IOS 6 is hardly an upgrade at all. Android upgrades really are upgrades so its harder to work in.' which is both completely subjective, complete unsubstantiated and biased nonsense. The fact is that the release and upgrade cycles on iOS is superior. Undeniable fact. Yet you deny it.
19. You said 'Ist that 18?' - sorry, but no. Getting upgrades instantly and getting upgrades for a long lifespan are two separate but equally relevant things. Android devices get completely dropped much quicker, so we have no reason to believe the SG3 will have long term support.
20. Your view on the SG3 is completely biased because you own one. All insecure people who buy a phone try to justify it after. Anandtech took a more objective and scientific approach and concluded that the iPhone is calibrated perfectly.
21. Even if Aluminium did scuff more, to customers it's a more desirable material.
22. Plugging accessories in which aren't available on ANY phone is not the same as 'buying another phone'. The FACT is that there are more accessories for the iPhone, which makes it more feature-full and expandable. Good examples are speaker docking stations of which there is far more choice on the iPhone.
23. Nope, 12 was Malware, the vulnerability was a whole different security failure.
24. Recording a lot of pictures per second is actually extremely important to amateur photographers, it allows you to capture many shots over a few seconds and pick the best one.
25. You don't see the purpose of being able to sync your Outlook emails onto your phone?
26. The brightness on the SG3 is lower than that of the iPhone and a widely documented flaw in many reviews.
27. Having to press the home button to take a picture is the point. On the iPhone the button is at the top right when you hold your phone like a camera. Far more convenient and another often made criticism of the SG3.

You say it's not about one phone, but it actually is. To claim that the iPhone offers less value for money you necessarily have to show an equally specced phone which is available for less. All of the above proves that an equally specced phone doesn't exist.

As I said before, they don't prove that the iPhone is the best phone (and I clearly don't think so because I haven't bought it) but they do prove that you can't objectively claim that the iPhone is less for more.


RE: Impressive
By goatfajitas on 10/28/2012 11:07:17 PM , Rating: 2
omg, testerguy wth is wrong with you? are you really that deluded or do you skew facts on purpose? either way it's equally rediculous. google yourself the term "self awareness" and do some thinking. you really need to stop. you are just making yourself look mentally imbalanced.

anyone slightly technically inclined knows that you get more with android. more options, cheaper prices and better fitting phones to your personal needs. that is why it is outselling iphone 4 to 1. i cant tell if you are just delusional or skewing things to troll, either way you need to stop.


RE: Impressive
By TakinYourPoints on 10/29/2012 1:09:46 AM , Rating: 2
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Pentile isnt quite as good as std, but AMOLED's color rep. is just brilliant.


No it isn't. If I was made to own an S3 the first thing I'd do is hunt for a color calibration app and throw a colorimeter on it. Factory color settings on almost every Android phone I've seen have been so far off from what anyone who knows wtf would call accurate, and the Samsung is no different. Way too oversaturated with too much contrast.


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