ATI: 80nm ASIC Production OK
Anh Tuan Huynh
June 16, 2006 9:50 AM
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ATI claims it is on track with 80nm production
ATI has responded to previous allegations that its 80nm manufacturing process was going to be delayed.
ATI has already completed a trial production run of 80nm parts and on track to move to 80nm in September with a 65nm transition expected in 2007.
RV560, RV570, RV516 and RV505 mainstream and budget products
are expected to be the first to move over to the new 80nm process. The new 80nm parts are expected to have an internal
CrossFire compositing chip for dongle-less CrossFire capabilities
NVIDIA has no intentions of moving over to 80nm and responded to ATI’s 80nm plans.
Rival NVIDIA, in response to ATI's earlier entry into 80nm production, stated that the company currently has no plans to migrate its GPU manufacturing to the 80nm node. NVIDIA declined to comment on ATI's move and said that its manufacturing process technology roadmap and related strategies will be announced at the appropriate time.
Another interesting tidbit in the report is the mention of ATI’s next high end GPU—the R580+. It is expected the R580+ will be an interim product that is essentially the R580 with GDDR4 support till
is ready. R580+ is expected to be available by the end of the year, possibly in time for the holiday shopping season. However, R580+ is not supposed to be an 80nm component.
Naming and pricing of 80nm and R580+ products are unknown at the moment, though it is known the components will still be part of the X1000-series family. As the new 80nm parts are replacing current mainstream and budget X1600 and X1300 products, expect similar pricing. Previous roadmaps have indicated RV560 and RV570 would come in September and August of this year, respectively.
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RE: R580+ Release Date
6/17/2006 5:54:30 AM
Unless it's been delayed or had a change in design, the G80 should be out in the fall sometime, which would make sense if they are following a 6 to 9 month refresh. However, even though it's all rumor, many have said the G80 won't be 100% DX10 compatible, though it will get the designation of being a DX10 part. Mainly, it is supposed to be a hybrid design that doesn't fully implement SM 4.0. You don't need to be unified to be DX10 or SM 4.0, but I am just pointing it out. Anyway, it should still be a good chip considering DX10 titles won't be out till early to mid 2007 and should give a boost to todays games. Mainly, if it supports HDR+FSAA and they go back to having non angle dependent aniso like they used to have, I will get it.
RE: R580+ Release Date
6/17/2006 8:03:21 AM
Considering Microsoft has said they'll no longer accept all those chips that "partially" implement a shader spec, or "extend it" (So no more DX9.0b++, for example), I think it's highly unlikely that NVidia would make a chip that only partially follows the SM4.0 spec. It'd just be classified as a 3.0 chip, and then they might as well not have bothered.
Anyway, the only place I've seen the rumour about it not being 100% compatible is on The Inquirer, which seems to be unable to grasp that the SM4.0 specs doesn't require your actual hardware to use unified shaders. All that matters is the API that's presented to DirectX and to the developers.
They seem to believe that because it's hybrid, it can't follow the 4.0 specs, which is wrong.
Btw, last I heard, G80 was supposed to be out around september. But we'll see... :)
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