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It looks as though beleaguered Research in Motion (RIM) just can't catch a break these days. The company's CEO recently stated that it's no longer reaching for the top and would instead settle for third place. A research analyst recently surmised that RIM's much-needed BlackBerry 10 (BB10) smartphone operating system likely wouldn’t arrive until sometime in March 2013. And the New York Times last week ran a story detailing how some BlackBerry owners are ashamed to be seen in public with the devices.
Now, Reuters is reporting that the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency will no longer purchase BlackBerries for its employees. Simply put, ICE concluded that RIM "can no longer meet the mobile technology needs of the agency." Instead, the company states that Apple's iPhone provides a better platform for its operations.
ICE went on to describe how the iPhones will be used:
The devices provide critical, mission support services for ICE personnel and provide modern communication and personal computing services. Examples are: call waiting, call forwarding, three way calling, caller ID, voice mail messaging, geospatial services, and picture/video capabilities.
The iOS services will be used by a variety of agency personnel, including, but not limited to, Homeland Security Investigations, Enforcement and Removal Operations, and Office of the Principal Legal Advisor employees. The iPhone services will allow these individuals to leverage reliable, mobile technology on a secure and manageable platform in furtherance of the agency's mission.
According to Reuters, ICE will purchase over 17,000 iPhones for its employees, which represents a package deal worth over $2 million.

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Naturally, officials for RIM are a bit disheartened at Apple stealing food off its dinner plate. "Of course, we are disappointed by this decision," said Paul Lucier, RIM's VP of government solutions. "We are working hard to make our new mobile computing platform, BlackBerry 10, meets the future needs of government customers."

Sources: Reuters,, The Verge

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RE: how they will be used
By someguy123 on 10/22/2012 10:07:30 PM , Rating: 2
They use windows for the office suite. If all they're doing is data entry than linux with something like libre office would be probably enough, though.

I really don't see how that compares to switching to an expensive touch phone for features the blackberry already has.

RE: how they will be used
By Samus on 10/23/2012 1:29:42 AM , Rating: 2
It actually costs $10 LESS per month on most carriers to have iPhone data opposed to Blackberry data, since RIM charges carriers to reroute traffic through RIM servers.

The tab for the infrastructure and complexity is passed on to the subscriber in the form of an overpriced data package.

I know the trend is to charge for "premium data" with smartphones, but with T-mobile, for example, the $10 and $20/month data plans cover all devices except Blackberry's.

However, Sprint charges premium data for an iPhone which costs as much as a Blackberry device. However, Android devices are covered under regular data packages, so Android would have been the most practical from a price perspective.

I agree with dumping Blackberry, but not neccessarily for an iPhone.

RE: how they will be used
By TakinYourPoints on 10/23/2012 6:36:30 AM , Rating: 1
Why? Blackberry and iPhone are currently the best ways to go if security is a concern. Android is worst in class when it comes to security, which is why you don't see gov't agencies or enterprise (at least on a high security or mission critical level) go with it. Saving a few bucks here and there means little if it means compromising security.

RE: how they will be used
By Samus on 10/23/2012 1:18:03 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, ActiveSync is ActiveSync. The security end of iPhone is identical to Android: they both implement the remote access policy the same way. Android can be locked down incredibly tight, requiring strong unlock passwords, device encryption, denied root access and 3rd party apps, etc.

The reason most companies don't use Android is because there is no stable platform . The market is so saturated and evolves so fast that they can't be guaranteed compatible devices with their rollout implementation in the future. WP7/7.5 is even worse in this regard. Blackberry and iOS devices evolve so slowly and stay the same for so long that they make practical business devices.

RE: how they will be used
By kleinma on 10/23/2012 1:23:57 PM , Rating: 2
That is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard. ActiveSync needs to store credentials on the device. Apple and Google implement encryption and access to the file system differently. You can't take a service protocol like activesync and say that iPhones and Android devices are equal in security because they both support ActiveSync. What about the rest of the operating system infrastructure?

Disclosure: I own an S3 and 4s

RE: how they will be used
By Samus on 10/25/2012 12:12:12 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, do your research before you call something a "load of crap"

Microsoft wouldn't license active sync unless they met a certain criteria. In this case, they meet the same security criteria. They both allow for the same policies and management from Active Directory and Exchange policies. Both devices offer identical 128-bit encryption of the file system and its contents.

Hence I stand correct, "Activesync is Activesync" and any device with Microsoft Exchange Activesync must support the same group policy security criteria.

RE: how they will be used
By chizow on 10/23/2012 8:02:38 AM , Rating: 2
Windows Phone would be the natural successor to BB imo, but MS is perpetually late with their Windows Phone products. I know it would take a minor miracle to stem the exodus of BB for iPhone users in my workplace, so I don't know if a BB10 or Win8 Phone will gain any traction at this point.

“And I don't know why [Apple is] acting like it’s superior. I don't even get it. What are they trying to say?” -- Bill Gates on the Mac ads
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