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IdeaTab Lynx
Lenovo unveiled its IdeaPad Yoga 11, IdeaPad Yoga 13, IdeaTab Lynx and ThinkPad Twist

Windows 8 will be here in a little over two weeks, and Lenovo is prepared to show off its new spread of devices that will run Microsoft's newest operating system. 

Today, Lenovo unveiled its IdeaPad Yoga 11, IdeaPad Yoga 13, ThinkPad Twist and IdeaTab Lynx -- all Windows 8-powered convertibles. Lenovo is betting big that customers will want convertibles over traditional laptops or tablets, since convertibles combine the best of both worlds. 

IdeaPad Yoga 11

The IdeaPad Yoga 11 is an 11.6-inch Windows RT device with a display that flips 360 degrees backwards, transforming the laptop into a tablet with a stand, if needed. Under the hood, the Yoga 11 is packing a NVIDIA Tegra 3 processor, 2GB of RAM, up to 64GB of storage, a 1366x768 display resolution, a 720p webcam, two USB 2.0 ports, an HDMI port, a card reader, 802.11n and Bluetooth 4.0. 

You can pick up a Yoga 11 starting at $799. It's available in Silver Gray and Clementine Orange. 


IdeaPad Yoga 13

The IdeaPad Yoga 13, like the Yoga 11, flips 360 backwards to turn the laptop into a tablet-like device. It also comes in Silver Gray and Clementine Orange, but most other specs are completely different. For starters, the Yoga 13 has a 13.3-inch display and runs Windows 8. It also has Intel Core i5 and i7 processors with Intel HD 4000 integrated graphics, up to 8GB of RAM, up to 256GB of solid-state storage, a 1600x900 resolution, a 720p webcam, USB 2.0 and 3.0 ports, an HDMI port, a card reader, 802.11n and Bluetooth 4.0. 

The Yoga 13's price will start at $1,099.


ThinkPad Twist

The ThinkPad Twist does exactly what the name indicates -- the display flips down and twists to cover the keyboard, turning the laptop into a tablet. It has a 12.5-inch display, 1366x768 resolution, Intel Core i3/i5/i7 processors with Intel HD 4000 integrated graphics, up to 8GB of RAM, a 720p webcam, two USB 3.0 ports, 802.11n, Bluetooth 4.0, Gigabit Ethernet, Mini DisplayPort, Mini HDMI port and three storage options: 320GB HDD, 500GB HDD or 128GB SDD.

The Twist starts at $849.


IdeaTab Lynx

The IdeaTab Lynx is basically a tablet with optional keyboard dock, turning the device into a laptop. The display is 11.6 inches and it features a Clover Trail-based Intel Atom Z2760 processor, 2GB of DDR2, 32GB/64GB storage options, 2 MP front-facing camera, a 1366x768 resolution, Micro USB 2.0 port, Micro HDMI port, microSD card slot, 802.11n and Bluetooth 4.0.

The starting price for the Lynx is $599 for the tablet alone, but adding the keyboard dock will cost an additional $149.

Source: Lenovo



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time Warp
By Nortel on 10/9/2012 11:02:51 PM , Rating: 2
June 2005 IBM released their X41 convertible tablet. 7 years pass. Now we have the ThinkPad Twist which is almost identical. They seem to completely forget how dismal X41 sales were. Hell nowadays, I have an ipad3 with the Apple bluetooth keyboard. If I need the keyboard I just take it out of my bag and if I don't I have a thin tablet with a leather foldable cover. Lenovo made a huge misstep here introducing 7 year old technology as a gap filler for 'business' minded people.




RE: time Warp
By MadMan007 on 10/10/2012 12:03:36 AM , Rating: 2
And in the intervening years there have consistently been convertible tablets from different manufacturers. It must be a worthwhile market for 'business' people.


RE: time Warp
By StevoLincolnite on 10/10/2012 1:00:58 AM , Rating: 2
I've had a convertible tablet since before the iPad came out...

Heck I have had people ask me "Is that an iPad?" like as if there is no other alternative that has never been produced (Goes to show how clueless the average person is!).

Last few years however, I've noticed a few Australian online stores started selling convertibles and they seem to be selling incredibly fast too, so there seems to be a demand there, just not much in terms of available hardware currently that's priced well, hopefully Windows 8 changes that.


RE: time Warp
By IntelUser2000 on 10/10/2012 12:12:57 AM , Rating: 2
The differences are in the details though:

X41 Convertible: $1899
Edge Twist: $849

X41 Convertible: 2.6 hours battery, $150 for 6 hours extended
Edge Twist: 7 hours

X41 Convertible: Pentium M with GMA 950 and HDD
Edge Twist: Core chips with HD 4000 and cached HDD

The Edge Twist also uses Windows 8, which is a lot better OS than WinXP Tablet Edition. Also, even Pentium M was too unresponsive, and slow.


RE: time Warp
By inperfectdarkness on 10/10/2012 2:39:59 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. I'm also happy that at least one MFG has decided to hop on board, rather than get all butthurt *cough* acer *cough*.


RE: time Warp
By Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer on 10/10/2012 9:21:37 AM , Rating: 2
Specced right, that ThinkPad Twist is going to be the perfect Windows 8/Windows Phone 8 development tool. 8 GB of RAM, a decent processor, Windows 8 Pro, and you'll be all set (though you'll be paying more than $850 for the privilege; hopefully you can upgrade the RAM/hard drive yourself). You can test your apps like they were running on a tablet or a laptop.

The screen is even a good intermediate size...larger than most tablets, smaller than most laptops, decent pixel density if you're going to be on the desktop, and you are, 'cause that's where you run Visual Studio.


RE: time Warp
By TakinYourPoints on 10/10/2012 4:15:44 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, it hits a really good sweet spot


RE: time Warp
By zeroth on 10/10/2012 12:58:38 AM , Rating: 3
Evolution of technology, changes of the times, cost of production. 7 Years ago, the tablet and convertible market was limited to business and industrial use. Now touch screen, mobile power and processing has become more accessible and powerful, and at the very least cheaper; people are starting to accept them in daily use. Heck, Apple pumped billions into their marketing machine and made every plebian aware of this type of technology and now everybody wants one for their home.

They always had the convertibles, they're just re-marketing it. Lenovo's just taking the opportunity of using this as a possible revival with the coming of Win8. Everything has its cycles, kinda like how they make remakes of old movies. People have short, and selective, memories.


RE: time Warp
By Samus on 10/10/2012 3:37:54 AM , Rating: 2
Nortel, ragging on the x41 shows how little you know.

I bought an x40 in 2001, Pentium M 1.0GHz, 1.25GB RAM, 40GB SSD, cost around $2400 bucks.

I still have it, now running Windows 7 Professional 32-bit, and performs just about any business task faster than most current $1000 notebooks with an HDD.

It's a beautiful device, has stood the test of time, and damn did I get my money out of it.

Thinkpads are some of the most beautiful machines in the industry. I understand some people like white cum colored equipment with a fruit on it made in China by young kids who want to commit suicide because profit margins mean everything. To each their own.


RE: time Warp
By TakinYourPoints on 10/10/2012 3:46:46 AM , Rating: 2
I like Thinkpads too but get real, that notebook you have is trash by modern standards. Any $1000 ultrabook with an SSD will absolutely smoke that thing. If you're spending $1000 an 11" MBA is faster in every way imaginable and have more storage, as will any other $1000 ultrabook with SSD storage.

Faster, really?


RE: time Warp
By retrospooty on 10/10/2012 8:11:29 AM , Rating: 1
Dood, its an X40, ancient tech. Way to miss the point entirely and somehow make it about Apple. The point he is making is that it was a great laptop that stood the test of time. Thinkpads have longbeen the best quality, and Lenovo has improved it over IBM, much to my surprise. LEnovo for the past several years running makes hands down the best quality laptops on earth, eclipsing even your precious Apple, who is a distant 3rd (Asus is 2nd).


RE: time Warp
By TakinYourPoints on 10/10/2012 2:10:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I still have it, now running Windows 7 Professional 32-bit, and performs just about any business task faster than most current $1000 notebooks with an HDD.


He believes it is still competitive with modern laptops, which is ridiculous.

This wasn't a bashing Lenovo post; if you pay attention you'll see that I praise their hardware all the time. On the low end it isn't very good, no manufacturer is, but on the medium and high end they are quite good. It is the only notebook manufacturer I really recommend aside from Apple.

The only really good hardware Asus has is the Zenbook Prime due to its screen, and even with that you're dealing with an inferior keyboard to Lenovo and Apple and an inferior trackpad to Apple.


RE: time Warp
By tayb on 10/10/2012 6:50:46 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
LEnovo for the past several years running makes hands down the best quality laptops on earth, eclipsing even your precious Apple, who is a distant 3rd (Asus is 2nd).


Not really an accurate statement. The notebook manufacturing metrics are all over the map.

PCWorld lists Apple as #1, Asus as #4, and Lenovo as #12. Laptopmag lists Apple as #1, Lenovo as #2, and Asus as 5th.
Rescuecom lists Lenovo as #1, Apple as #4, Asus as #5.

I do data science and predictive modeling for a living and it is almost comical the number of ways data can be represented. Give me your conclusion up front and I'll make your data tell that story and I won't even have to change the numbers.


RE: time Warp
By Penti on 10/11/2012 6:05:37 AM , Rating: 2
Lenovo is quickly becoming the number one PC manufacturer surpassing HP about now or on the same level. They sell more machines (notebooks, desktops) then Apple. Worldwide. I think your referring to US numbers. Retail numbers in the US aren't that relevant. Apple mostly has retail staff for that matter. Some 35 000 retail people working in stores and related business. Companies like Asus aren't even number five in the US for that matter.


RE: time Warp
By tayb on 10/10/2012 9:49:33 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
I still have it, now running Windows 7 Professional 32-bit, and performs just about any business task faster than most current $1000 notebooks with an HDD.


Sorry but that is just pure nonsense. I'm sure it's still running and rocking Windows 7 but there is no way it is outperforming current $1000 notebooks.

quote:
Thinkpads are some of the most beautiful machines in the industry. I understand some people like white cum colored equipment with a fruit on it made in China by young kids who want to commit suicide because profit margins mean everything. To each their own.


Why bash Apple when they make some of the most reliable machines out there? My fiance is rocking a $999 white Macbook from 2005 and it's still going strong. I haven't had to upgrade or replace anything on that machine and I bet I could sell it on craigslist for $200+ easy.


RE: time Warp
By TakinYourPoints on 10/10/2012 2:13:14 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Why bash Apple


This is DT where people jump through all kinds of logical hoops and bend reality to their will in order to do so. Seems like a silly question to be asking here.


RE: time Warp
By xti on 10/11/2012 10:55:14 AM , Rating: 2
im mentally +1'ing you...best i can do.


RE: time Warp
By Penti on 10/10/2012 7:33:12 AM , Rating: 2
What the hell are you talking about? The first ThinkPad was a tablet and the year later edition was a convertible tablet to begin with. The 700T and 750P. That was 1992 and 93 respectively.

X41 was Lenovo's first convertible tablet, not the ThinkPad lines first. It's the only way to do touch with PC's. Hence Tablet PC's (+convertible). Yoga-style (360 degree hinge) or dockable keyboard are worse. Companies are even releasing touch-screen notebooks without any hinges or removable base/keyboard which is awful. Pen-able surface is one thing. If you have your keyboard in front of you why wouldn't you use that or the multi-touch trackpad. When you use your fingers touch is just a novelty when it's not on a slate device which would sell even worse. This form factor has survived for over 20 years.

If you have decent dual digitizer touchscreen with capacitive plus wacom (active) pen-able digitizer/touch then why wouldn't you build an convertible Tablet PC? It's a computer not a mobile tablet. Software supports it better then ever. It's the only way to do touch properly here. The alternative is to do it not all which Lenovo does on a lot of other products. Microsoft still might fail here because of how poor Metro/Modern-UI and the Windows Runtime framework is in general, but Lenovo won't, they don't need to sell millions of each here. It's not even an ThinkPad it's an ThinkPad Edge which means less rigorous testing and less durable construction. You still have the fairly new X230T for business users. I.e. 12.5" IPS convertible/180-degree hinge, third gen Core i7, up to 16GB RAM, SSD, etc. But that is not a consumer version. ThinkPad has not failed here, most convertible tablets has been based on X-series notebooks so engineering has mostly been shared with those over the years and they have sold millions of them. This isn't about iPad breaking mobile-based tablets. 14% of the sale of computers is Lenovo they haven't lost out because of the iPad either. What you don't need is a 12.5-13.3" Tablet Slate PC.


RE: time Warp
By tayb on 10/10/2012 9:38:03 AM , Rating: 2
The x41 was a good convertible but it was limited by the hardware and software available at the time. It was extremely under powered for a notebook, heavier than a tablet should be, extremely expensive, and it was running Windows XP with a crap "touch pack" added in. Even its successor, the X60, wasn't much better in any of those areas.

This time around the price is right, it isn't under powered, and Windows 8 is extremely touch friendly. Weight is still a concern but if Lenovo scores a win on those other three categories it will be a solid device in my humble opinion.

Back in the day I bought a Fujitsu T4220 convertible. It was a great little device. Under powered, slightly heavy, and expensive but that thing was a blast taking notes in class. Having circuitry notes and "confusion tables" (k-maps) digitally backed up was great. It also had a modular battery that I could swap in or out for an extra 2-4 hours of battery life. Miss that thing!


RE: time Warp
By estarkey7 on 10/10/2012 2:22:26 PM , Rating: 2
There are just some things you have to experience to appreciate, and the note taking using my Fujitsu T2010 with Microsoft OneNote is completely superior to anything, bar none!

This is absolutely the most productive way for an engineering student to get through school and still have some sanity. Typing just doesn't equate the transferal of information completely when it comes to mathematics and engineering the way hand drawn notes do.

I loved my tablet so much, I even wrote a review for it at TabletPC Review here:
http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=9...

I am finally ready to replace my five year old Tablet (yes this is the original tablet, before Apple tried to brainwash humanity) with one of these from Lenovo or a Microsoft surface. I'm a Software Engineer, so I need to have a good typing experience. But I also do hardware and I would like >12 battery life that the 11" IdeaTab modular totes. I don't think the Atom processor got the kahunas to do MatLab simulations.

Whatever one I pick, a Wacom digitizer with stylus is a must! They don't mention if the Yoga has this or not...


RE: time Warp
By Nortel on 10/10/2012 2:42:20 PM , Rating: 2
I use a pen and paper and I've yet to run out of battery power. I run Matlab in my head, its amazing.


RE: time Warp
By Penti on 10/10/2012 5:28:55 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, the ability to draw and write is the most important here. Sadly many of the new Windows 8 tablets will miss that point and not support an active digitizer.

They might have to look at the Galaxy Note 2 10.1, the point isn't to write with on screen keyboards here. The point isn't even about Metro apps. Neither are Metro replacing anything or facilitates the porting of win32 apps. Wacom enabled Galaxy Note tablet is like 500 or 600 in the states I guess.

Just having capacitive touch, keyboard and multi-touch trackpad is just a huge waste. Most of the cheaper stuff won't even really be convertible. Gestures and so on doesn't need cheap touch screens. If it doesn't bring any productivity enhancements it's of no use! Companies wishing to create slates on Windows now should be really careful. They won't turn into great entertainment and productivity devices just because of new software and a capacitive screen. It's sad the state much of the Windows 8 is in for that matter. RT will be even worse. They might be getting Office 2013 RT, but it won't make them great corporate devices or better then Android or iOS.


RE: time Warp
By Mint on 10/10/2012 5:46:20 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think it's that sad, because even considering that there are a lot more tablets with a stylus coming out now than there were in the past.

Despite Jobs' protest, it's here to stay. Just wait until high-school kids start using them for notes, where virtually everyone will find them useful for compulsory math/science courses.

The iPad was the top dog in the lightweight tablet market for a long time, but in a year there won't a single contender for that spot without a stylus and x86 software support. It's just too perfect of a replacement for a mouse.


RE: time Warp
By Penti on 10/11/2012 6:57:26 AM , Rating: 2
It's not quite that sad overall when there comes new devices, some with active digitizer and even Android devices support it. But it is that sad for the most part in the low end and if it fails in the consumer market it will be reserved for the same market that Tablet PC's occupy today. Seems kinda pointless with capacitive touch and Windows (especially when not even Microsoft believes in fully fledge slates), as most devices will have multi-touch track-pads and keyboards. Effective input methods are important and Microsoft just doesn't seem to be there. But they support pens quite good. On a desktop there is of course always wacom tablet's for creative and engineering usage. Shouldn't be any focus to switch to a finger touch system there.

There will still be none-x86 tablets as well as Android running x86-tablets for that matter. I.e. market place for iOS stuff from Apple. In productivity and as a complement for a mice/track-pad a active pen is much better then just touch though and many will realize that. Hoping for a new ThinkPad Android tablet with ntrig/wacom here. Not interested in Idea-series. Business and consumer stuff will still be different in some points but hopefully it will come to just configuration and services in the future. Samsung seems quite capable of pulling it off.

Microsoft really won't be able to compete with iPad, even if it is 2-3 different devices now it's still a single vendor with large sales. PC vendors altogether will of course have many different types of devices that together will sell more. I still view tablets and Tablet PC's as different devices and categories. You might have a Android tablet for browsing the web and watching netflix plus a larger notebook, where the two collides is where Tablet PC's act as replacements for the smaller devices, a ARM tablet never fully replaces a desktop.


RE: time Warp
By jimbojimbo on 10/11/2012 4:15:29 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, the Twist is the only computer they're going to sell. It's called options, dummy. You don't like it don't buy it? They have 4 other models to choose from.


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