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Epix will provide Amazon with about 3,000 more movies to the Prime Instant Video catalogue

Amazon is shelling out a considerable amount of cash to make sure its Prime Instant Video Service continues to stay competitive with Netflix via a new contract with Epix.  
 
Amazon is shaking up the pricing model for licensing agreements with movie/TV studios. It recently agreed to pay Epix -- a partnership between Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Lionsgate and Paramount Pictures -- an earn-out provision if the number of Amazon Prime Instant Video subscribers increases above a certain point. This payment will be dished out over time as subscribers grow, and is in addition to the usual fixed upfront fee.  
 
Generally, services like Netflix only agree to a fixed upfront fee with movie/TV studios when it comes to content licensing. However, studios realized that they want to be in on any future growth that may occur with video streaming services. 
 
Epix isn't the only one who will benefit from such a deal model. Amazon has now given studios a reason to want to do business with them instead of bigger services like Netflix. As of now, Netflix has about 25 million subscribers in the United States while Amazon Prime Instant Video has about 3-4 million. Also, Amazon Prime Instant Video only has about 25,000 titles to offer while Netflix has double that. In other words: Amazon could really use the boost.
 
Epix will provide Amazon with about 3,000 more movies to the Prime Instant Video catalogue. Epix previously had a contract with Netflix for $200 million a year, but once that agreement ended, Amazon snuck in with the new deal.
 
Amazon really needs deals such as the one with Epix in order to boost its profit margins where the Kindle Fire is concerned, too. Amazon is selling the Fire at a discount with hopes that customers will use it to consume books, TV, movies and shopping through the e-tailer's services -- which makes up for the loss on selling the device at $199. 
 
Since 2011, Amazon has announced new streaming deals with companies like NBCUniversal and ABC.
 
Amazon and Epix announced their agreement last month, but the pricing model details were just recently released.

Source: Reuters



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still wondering
By kleinma on 10/9/2012 4:52:18 PM , Rating: 1
Since I heard the news last month, I am still wondering when this will actually happen, since the current content on prime sucks big time. I didn't get prime for the streaming content (got it for the shipping), but I will take it just the same.

They need an xbox 360 app like netflix has though.




RE: still wondering
By kleinma on 10/9/2012 4:52:52 PM , Rating: 2
nevermind, I see they have one now (xbox app)...


RE: still wondering
By augiem on 10/9/2012 5:18:15 PM , Rating: 2
Worse than the selection is the browsing/searching system, which is identical to their terrible shopping system. Search for a TV show and you'll get every single season as a separate entry, and not in any sort of order either. Talk about a square peg in a round hole.

How Amazon continues to be the most successful e-tailer with their horrendous site is beyond my comprehension. Even when buying products I always use Newegg to browse because its impossible to browse through Amazon's disorganized mess and then check Amazon to see if the price is better. They remain the biggest in spite of themselves, certainly not because of their site.


RE: still wondering
By dustya340 on 10/9/2012 6:36:18 PM , Rating: 2
LoL. I thought I was the only one who thought amazon's site sucked. I do the same thing whenever shopping online. Amazon's site takes the same approach whether you're looking to purchase a bottle of asprin, a video rental, or a videocard - just dumps a bunch of jumbled results with no simple way to "Window shop." Trying to find a tv show is a perfect example.

I sometimes forget to check amazon's price and use prime shipping because I simply hate using the site unless I'm looking for a specific item. It all kinda feels like the brick and mortar Wal-Mart experience, at least around where I live. I don't care if it is a little cheaper, it's not worth the terrible experience.


RE: still wondering
By ManCave on 10/9/2012 7:39:44 PM , Rating: 2
My wife mentioned the movie Twins and said she wanted to watch it but it was not on NetFlix. I told her to search Amazon and they have it. I searched on Amazon Instant Video for Twins and found a match. After looking through about 13 pages of titles, none were the movie Twins. There were many movies that had only a bare similarity (The Twin Towers) and many that had no similarity. The exact match should be first but was completely absent. Epic Fail.


RE: still wondering
By mellomonk on 10/10/2012 1:54:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The exact match should be first but was completely absent. Epic Fail.


You searched the entire site and then say they failed? When 99.9% of folks who search for 'twins' are looking for child related gear, not obscure 80s movies? Setting Search area to 'movies & TV (pulldown menu left of search box), and Voila! Twins movie links. The first three the said movie.

Temp loss of Man Card for fail in ability to search.


RE: still wondering
By HoosierEngineer5 on 10/10/2012 8:10:55 AM , Rating: 2
Plus, I have had them snatch items from my cart! I only do business with Amazon as a last resort.


RE: still wondering
By fishman on 10/10/2012 9:03:55 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, Newegg is far superior for browsing than Amazon. But Newegg's search function is weak because you have to spell things right. Amazon's search function is better, but it can overwhelm you with too many results.


Is the Fire really at a discount.
By halbhh2 on 10/9/2012 11:40:15 PM , Rating: 2
Back when the Kindle Fire launched, I read that Amazon was selling it at less than cost.

But the next day, actually the next day(!), in a local grocery store, I saw a cardboard display selling 7" tablets (very similar to the Fire) for....$120.

Now, 7" tablets sell for $80.

Is the Fire at a discount? Does the screen really cost an extra $120??

I doubt it.




By piroroadkill on 10/10/2012 8:30:15 AM , Rating: 2
The ultra cheap Android tablet market is one you have to be careful with. very easy to end up with a barely usable POS. There are bargains to be had, but research is needed. but for 80 dollars? no way will that be any good


RE: Is the Fire really at a discount.
By Rukkian on 10/10/2012 10:29:08 AM , Rating: 2
Nothing even close to being comparable was available when the fire first came out. Still to this day the only thing really comparable (favorably at that) is the N7 from Google. Everything else in that price range is either very outdated, or cheap crap with an old OS. Be very careful with the cheapo tablets. You definately get what you pay for.


By fishman on 10/10/2012 4:43:17 PM , Rating: 2
Many of the cheap tablets now run Android ICS. But they may only have 512MB of memory, 4GB of storage, weak batteries, etc. But component prices are still dropping, and decent sub $100 7" tablets are not that far off.


Epix needs to wake up
By inperfectdarkness on 10/10/2012 3:51:34 AM , Rating: 2
People don't want to pay for two subscriptions. Most people didn't want to pay for both an xbox 360 and a ps3 (when those consoles launched) either. You can make more profit offfering your goods on two services at a slightly lower price than you can from offering it on one service via a higher price.

Stop discriminating against netflix.




RE: Epix needs to wake up
By othercents on 10/10/2012 9:17:55 AM , Rating: 2
That and people don't want to change the way they watch TV everytime a new service comes out. Netflix is on both my BluRay players, my TV, all three of my Tablets, WP7, and iPhones. Get the same for Amazon and I will consider switching.


RE: Epix needs to wake up
By cknobman on 10/10/2012 10:01:27 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly correct here.

All my blue ray players, media streamers, tv's, etc.. support Netflix right now.

Not all of my devices support Amazon and I am not investing in more hardware either.


bah
By tamalero on 10/10/2012 10:32:44 AM , Rating: 2
still pissed that prime still is CANADA/USA .
I had a PRIME account and the amounts of "you cant do that " with my PS3 and Amazon music/store is annoying.




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