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Toyota Camry SE
Toyota is finally going to catch up to the competition

Source: AutoWeek





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RE: Finally
By Brandon Hill on 10/3/2012 3:01:48 PM , Rating: 3
Their two biggest sellers:

Camry: 25/35
Corolla: 27/34

Compared to class leaders:

The Altima (Camry competitor) gets 27/38
The Elantra (Corolla competitor) gets 30/40

So a 10 to 20% efficiency boost will put Toyota at parity with the rest of the classes it competes in.


RE: Finally
By othercents on 10/3/2012 3:43:28 PM , Rating: 2
The Altima and Elantra are not boosted cars, so Toyota can provide better fuel efficiency without going the boosted route and probably with just the direct injection.

The better comparison is between the Camry: 25/35 and the Ford Fusion with EcoBoost 22/33. Also the Chevy Malibu has an "EcoTech" engine with direct injection and they get 25/37.

BTW. I average 28MPG in my Elantra when I'm driving nicely, so obviously there are extreme differences in driving styles to get to 40MPG.


RE: Finally
By Brandon Hill on 10/3/2012 3:54:47 PM , Rating: 2
1) This was the correct comparison. The Camry which gets 25/35 right now is the 2.5-liter. It will be replaced by the 2.5 with DI mentioned in the article.

A hypothetical Camry 2.0T would go up against the Fusion 2.0 EcoBoost, Accord V6, and the Altima V6.

If you're going to go the EcoBoost route, the correct Fusion comparison would be with the 1.6, not the 2.0. The Fusion 1.6 EcoBoost is rated at 25/37.

2) The Malibu you're talking about is the Malibu Eco. It used a mild hybrid/alternator arrangement to get 25/37. The standard 2.5-liter Malibu is only rated at 22/34.


RE: Finally
By cknobman on 10/3/2012 4:55:19 PM , Rating: 3
Lets see:

Altima: See of cheap plastic and interior materials. Personally I think the interior Nissan design is some of the worst in the industry while their exterior is some of the best.

Elantra: That 40mpg nubmer is as mythical as la Chupacabra and their have been plenty of reports of dissatisfied customers and even inquiries into if that 40mpg number was ever achievable in the first place.


RE: Finally
By Samus on 10/4/2012 12:17:06 AM , Rating: 2
My sister pulls 35mpg of pure city driving in her Elantra, so I challenge your statement it doesn't get 40mpg of consistant highway driving.


RE: Finally
By cknobman on 10/4/2012 10:15:52 AM , Rating: 2
RE: Finally
By jeffkro on 10/4/2012 12:42:24 AM , Rating: 2
The altima gets its mileage from its CVT.


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