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New remote has a big touchscreen in the middle

Logitech's line of Harmony universal remote controls are some of the most popular universal remotes out there. The Harmony line is notable for being easy to program rather than having to type in long numerical codes for devices. Logitech has announced a new addition to its Harmony line of universal remote controls, and this is the first new remote to be launched in the series in a long time. 
 
The remote is called the Logitech Harmony Touch and adds an interesting touchscreen to the middle of the remote that looks quite similar to the Harmony One's screen. The main difference in looks between the new Harmony Touch and the Harmony One is the placement of the Touch's 2.4-inch color display.
 
That color display is designed to show users various buttons and icons. One of the more interesting uses for the screen is to show icons for your favorite channels allowing you to go to those channels with a single tap. The remote control also supports the activities macros that the Harmony line is famous for.
 
The Activities macros allow you to set up single button presses that will change inputs and turn on specific components for different things such as playing video games or watching movies. All the buttons on the remote control are backlit to make them easy to find and use in the dark. The remote can also be used to initiate Skype video phone calls if your TV is equipped with the Logitech TV Cam HD.

The Logitech Harmony Touch will ship this month at a retail price of $249.99. 

Source: Logitech



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The price... $249.99 ???
By happyfirst on 10/3/2012 10:22:04 AM , Rating: 3
We now have 7" android tablets selling for $199, but for just a remote with a much smaller screen, $249.99 ????

I don't understand why so much in these current times.

I had an 8 year harmony remote that was just awesome. Flawless for 8 years until somebody broke it. So last year upgraded to a new color harmony and that remote is just SO annoying, constantly making me re-walk the tutorial, over and over again. And it's so slow...

I don't know if I'd like a remote with so many FEWER buttons.




RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By Rukkian on 10/3/2012 10:28:59 AM , Rating: 3
I would like to see a harmony app for android that allows all of the same functionality on my 4.6" screen. Should be quite a bit cheaper to produce.


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By pattycake0147 on 10/3/2012 12:28:09 PM , Rating: 2
Check out the harmony link. Sounds like your needs might be well served.


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By invidious on 10/3/2012 1:37:23 PM , Rating: 2
Based on what I read in reviews of the 'Link' it doesn't play nice with newer Android software versions or older Apple software versions. Which is a shame because it seems like a nice device otherwise, especially at the price point. I would suggest anyone looking into it find a review from someone with the exact mobile device model and software that they intend to use to confirm compatability. Buyer beware.


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By FITCamaro on 10/3/2012 12:52:56 PM , Rating: 4
How would it send signals to devices wanting an IR signal?


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By Integral9 on 10/3/2012 1:01:15 PM , Rating: 3
iirc, there's an IR blaster that's hooked up to your WiFi that your phone talks to it with.


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By Dr of crap on 10/3/12, Rating: 0
RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By degobah77 on 10/3/2012 10:55:13 AM , Rating: 5
I have the Harmony 900 and it takes the place of;
TV remote
AVR remote
Xbox controller (when not playing games of course)
PS3 controller
CD player remote
Bluray player (non PS3) remote
cable box remote

I am currently at 7 different remotes (can still add more) all combined into one nice looking device. It's perfect for the significant other who doesn't want to juggle remotes. All she has to do is press "Watch TV" or "Play DVD" and it turns everything on that is needed, off which is not needed, and when she's done, one power button to kill everything.

Granted, I was given the remote as a gift, but it's pretty damn cool and I would definitely buy another one.


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By Souka on 10/3/2012 2:22:17 PM , Rating: 2
Similar here... lots of remotes, some are not working well.

I orginally bought a refurb(ebay) Logitech 510... 4 device limit.

Outgrew it, go a Harmony one and have been happy since.

Also great for my mom and the sitter... if something doesn't work, just hit "help" and answer the questions.... no guessing what Video 1, HDMI 3, source 2, AUX in 3, etc is.

Real simple.

ONLY gripe is that it has to do one command at a time... with a complex start up... it could take 10 signal blasts to get things set.
But... waaayyyyyyy wayyyyy easier than fumbling with 4+ remotes to get the same thing done.


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By jRaskell on 10/3/2012 3:34:17 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Save your money and use the remotes that come with the boxes you bought.


How about save your money and don't buy 'boxes' at all.
You don't need a tv, or a DVD/blu-ray player, or a gaming console, or cable/satellite service.

Ok, so maybe an argument could be made for the necessity of a tv, but that's about it. Certainly the cheapest 20-27 inch tv would be the absolute most necessary for 'staying connected to the world', but that's still stretching it a bit.

Point is, you don't need any remotes at all. They're a convenience, a want , and once you start delving into the realm of want , any argument based on what you need is utterly irrelevant.


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By Souka on 10/4/2012 12:16:43 PM , Rating: 2
Amazing post jRaskell... you are a genius


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By kleinma on 10/3/2012 10:47:06 AM , Rating: 2
Because android tablets are sold at $200 because they know there is residual money afterwards. It could be from app purchases or showing you ads. The price is subsidized because of this. Google doesn't want your $200, they want the millions of dollars advertisers will pay to show their ads through googles devices, and you get to be the benefactor of viewing such ads.

Logitech isn't going to make any more money from you once you buy the remote. They need to cover the R&D and MFGR costs up front, plus make a profit. Would you prefer a harmony remote that tracks the shows you watch and shows you ads on its screen if it was a little cheaper?

I also have not seen any $200 tablets coming with IR ports for sending signals to the various devices the remote can.


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By fic2 on 10/3/2012 11:03:14 AM , Rating: 2
Samsung Tab 2. Sure it is $250 but it is a tablet as well as a tablet.


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By msheredy on 10/3/2012 11:35:39 AM , Rating: 2
And that's not even their most expensive model!


RE: The price... $249.99 ???
By n0b0dykn0ws on 10/3/2012 3:20:54 PM , Rating: 3
You're barely paying for the remote, and in this case the touchscreen.

In the case of Harmony Remotes you are paying to have access to a database of codes for devices.

On another note I wouldn't want a tablet or smartphone to be 'locked' to one room so that the occupants can control all the AV devices. Could you imagine that argument between siblings? "Tommy, I want to use the Nexus 7 to change the channel." "Not right now Suzie! I'm in the middle of a game!"


Good for looks, not for actual use
By zlandar on 10/3/2012 10:31:57 AM , Rating: 2
Try using a touchscreen without looking at it.

I'll stick to the old-school Harmony remotes.




RE: Good for looks, not for actual use
By kleinma on 10/3/2012 10:48:16 AM , Rating: 1
yeah, looking at stuff sucks. Blind people should be outraged by this remote!


By Dribble on 10/3/2012 12:37:22 PM , Rating: 2
I want to look at the tv while pressing the buttons so I can see the effect pressing the buttons is having. I can do that with a remote with real buttons because I can feel them, with a touch screen there is no tactile feedback so you need to keep looking at the remote or you press the wrong thing.

Similarly I also want to rest my fingers over the remote - with real buttons it takes pressure to press them so that's fine. With a touch screen if I brush the screen I press a button, making it more fiddly to hold and use.


By djdjohnson on 10/3/2012 11:40:02 AM , Rating: 2
The lack of some important dedicated buttons is a real deal breaker too... where are the skip forward/backward buttons? In a day of DVRs, this seems like a pretty obvious omission.


By Varun on 10/3/2012 3:06:52 PM , Rating: 2
I have to agree. I had a Harmony 800 which eventually died, so I replaced it with the Harmony One. I actually hate the touch screen it is pretty terrible. Dedicated buttons are way better.


By blargsoup on 10/3/2012 11:35:43 PM , Rating: 2
This remote is a terrible disappointment, the lack of buttons is silly. There are no skip forward and back buttons, which means that that function will be relegated to a touch gesture, the same goes for the missing numerical buttons. I use my remote without looking at it, and if that screen is as unresponsive as the one on the Harmony One then forget about it.

With the advances in small touch screens and processing power recently, Logitech had an opportunity to fix all of the issues with the Harmony One. For $250 they could do a lot more, put little LED screens under some of the buttons for customization options, throw some wifi on there and get it on the Internet so that I don't have to plug it into my USB cable to show it how to work.


walking away from good
By DockScience on 10/7/2012 12:18:49 PM , Rating: 2
In my opinion, the best Harmony was the 880. Since then, Logitech has been forgetting that people want to watch the TV screen, not the remote.

Ergonomic button placement for use without the need to look at the remote is the key.

Touch screens are not a step forward but one backward.




Yay!
By Kimoterapias on 10/3/12, Rating: -1
RE: Yay!
By tamalero on 10/3/2012 10:21:44 AM , Rating: 5
If you broke 3 in a year.. Maybe its time to accept its YOUR fault and not Logitech's.


RE: Yay!
By AMDftw on 10/3/2012 10:25:42 AM , Rating: 2
Yep, I hate to agree. Sometimes you can do with the basic necessities. I have had mine for the past 2 1/2 years and all had to do was change the batteries.


RE: Yay!
By Kimoterapias on 10/3/12, Rating: -1
RE: Yay!
By clhathat on 10/3/2012 11:02:13 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I have also trained my cats to never step on my Harmony One as a result.

... or you could just stop buying Harmony remotes. Seems simpler than training a cat, no?


RE: Yay!
By Azethoth on 10/3/2012 3:27:35 PM , Rating: 2
The cats are a distraction. As originally stated he likes to step and sit on them. Stepping is bad for electronics m'kay. As for sitting, get a softer couch. I sit and lie on mine for hours and never crack it.


RE: Yay!
By Kimoterapias on 10/3/2012 11:10:38 AM , Rating: 2
Well like I said, I've only broken two so far so, as per your logic, it's STILL Logitech's fault. Thanks, I really needed that.


RE: Yay!
By retrospooty on 10/3/2012 12:34:32 PM , Rating: 3
"If you broke 3 in a year.. Maybe its time to accept its YOUR fault and not Logitech's."

Agreed... I havent read the product specs or user manual, but I am pretty sure you are supposed to use your fingers to manipulate it, and not step on it.


RE: Yay!
By KentState on 10/3/2012 10:32:41 AM , Rating: 2
I have sat on mine, the dog has, fallen off the couch, been dropped and have now problems after 2 years. You must be extremely hard on the remotes to break so many.


RE: Yay!
By kleinma on 10/3/2012 10:43:01 AM , Rating: 3
Mine (harmony one) has also been through a war. Other than a new battery it is still going strong with no issues.

Complaining that something breaks when you step or sit on it is fucking stupid.


RE: Yay!
By GreenEnvt on 10/3/2012 10:40:47 AM , Rating: 2
Yea not sure what you are doing, but I've had 2 harmony remotes, going back about 4-5 years, and no cracked lcd's.
The first one had a button wear out, the 2nd is going strong after 3 years.


RE: Yay!
By Kimoterapias on 10/3/2012 1:11:01 PM , Rating: 2
I've had other Harmony remotes before too, 700 and a couple of 880's and never had any cracked screen issues (even after stepping on them by mistake a few times ) until I bought the Harmony One(s).


RE: Yay!
By danjw1 on 10/3/2012 11:06:56 AM , Rating: 2
I have had a Harmony remote for around 7 years and the only problem is some of the buttons are dying. But with the programmable screen, I can work around that. You must be REALLY hard on remotes.


RE: Yay!
By russki on 10/3/2012 3:09:55 PM , Rating: 2
I just use the remote that was included with my onkyo receiver. I can control my tv, blu ray, and cable box. It even has programmable activity buttons just like the harmony and it didnt cost 249. lol
think about the things you can buy for 249. xbox, ps3, tablet, even a tv, but they want 249 for the remote to the tv. this is absurd


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