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HD DVD-Rs, followed by 2X BD-R on the way

Verbatim Corporation, a Mitsubishi Kagaku Media (MKM) brand, announced July availability of HD DVD-R media in Japanese markets.  The company then announced that it will be the first to offer 2X (72Mbps) single-layer 25GB Blu-Ray Recordable and Rewriteable media this July as well.  Verbatim has not announced an estimated shp date for the US. 

The 15GB HD DVD-R media will be thrown into production in the early part of July, however the press release says production of 30GB dual layer HD DVD-R media will begin this month.

Like its DVD-R counterparts, HD DVD-R media will feature the Metal AZO recording dye which Verbatim claims to be highly resistant to ultraviolet light and heat which can wear away at the media.

MKM HD DVD-R media is currently manufactured exclusively in the company's Singapore facility.  The company's Blu-ray recordable media is manufactured exclusively at a facility in Mizushima, Japan.  30GB blue laser Ultra Density Optical (UDO) discs are also manufactured at the same Mizushima facility, and Verbatim employees assure us the transition from UDO-R to BD-R manufacturing is seamless and logical.

Pricing was not announced at time of publication. LG just announced a 4X BD-R burner, but as of now there is no 4X (144Mbps) BD-R media.  Pioneer's Blu-ray recorder became available about a month ago.




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Who needs this ?
By armagedon on 6/11/2006 4:16:41 PM , Rating: 2
I really don't see the need for such big capacity disk for the home user (beside their extravagant price). I still used mainly CD-R and sometime DVD for movies but never had any need for larger one. Beside double-layers DVD have now become cheap too.




RE: Who needs this ?
By Gooberslot on 6/11/2006 4:36:59 PM , Rating: 1
I actually think 25gb is way too small. 300gb might be a nice start. I'd like to be able to back up all my data on a few discs and then store them offsite somewhere, like a safety deposit box or something. It's really hard to do that with hundreds of cds and dvds.


RE: Who needs this ?
By TiberiusKane on 6/11/2006 5:26:03 PM , Rating: 2
Have you seen the deterioration tests on burned discs? They're horrendous for long-term storage. Given the costs, you might as well buy a hard drive+enclosure and chuck that into a safety deposit box. That and the hard drive is rewriteable on the fly.


RE: Who needs this ?
By TiberiusKane on 6/11/2006 5:26:56 PM , Rating: 2
Of course there's the tape route, but I'm not that dedicated.


RE: Who needs this ?
By BZDTemp on 6/12/2006 7:12:19 AM , Rating: 2
Tape is by far the most safe for long term storage.

I've seen hard discs left alone in 3-4 years not being able to run anymore but tapes will last a long time. Especially when stored correctly.

My guess the lubrication in hard discs dry out over time or something. Else I have no explanation for perfectly good drives not running after being unused for a longer period. To be really safe I think migrating about every year or so would be a good idea. That way one don't have to rely on keeping old computers running.


RE: Who needs this ?
By OddTSi on 6/11/2006 5:34:50 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Beside double-layers DVD have now become cheap too.

I guess cheap is a relative term because I definately don't think they're cheap. In fact I don't think they're even close.

Even the 2nd-/3rd-class crap media is over $1.50 per disc. The 1st-class is still hovering at $2 and above. Considering that 1st-class single layer DVD-Rs can be had for $0.30/disc any day of the week (no need to wait for specials or coupons) I don't see how you can call the DL discs cheap. When 1st-class DL discs reach $1/disc is the day that I'll say "they've now become cheap."


RE: Who needs this ?
By SLCentral on 6/11/2006 6:14:35 PM , Rating: 2
http://www.shop4tech.com/z/DVD_R_9.4GB/1_286_876

Not sure where you're seeing $2 per disk prices...


RE: Who needs this ?
By SLCentral on 6/11/2006 6:15:42 PM , Rating: 2
Eek, my mistake. These are double-sided, not DL.


RE: Who needs this ?
By armagedon on 6/11/2006 9:51:59 PM , Rating: 2
man if you find $2 too expensive for a 9GB DVD-DL, you're surely the wrong customer for BR. Compare to $25+ for a single BR disk, i'll take a box of those $2 DL anytime to go along my $35 DVD burner instead of a $1000 BR version.


RE: Who needs this ?
By Xajel on 6/12/2006 5:20:04 AM , Rating: 2
it will change later you humans.. remember the first DVD-Writer, or even the First CD-Writer ??

I'm just srpriced that BD already started with writers. as I remember both CD and DVD started with readers for a while then we found the writers around... I know DVD-writer came to the market very quickly after DVD-ROM/Combo... comparder to the time taken between CD-ROM and CD-Writer @ Market...


RE: Who needs this ?
By BZDTemp on 6/12/2006 7:29:16 AM , Rating: 2
LOL - I remember the first CD burner I used. It would do 2x if the planets was aligned correctly and it only cost something like $6.000 plus you needed a BIG PC (In thoose days anything with SCSI and 600+ MB disc space was BIG!).

The process was also a lenghtly one and all done from DOS. Step one was to create an image file and it had to be a none-fragmented one. And step two was the burning so making one full CD (74 miniutes was the max CD-R at the time) took 2-2½ hours where the PC could be used for nothing else.

Also discs was exspensive at around $20 a pop plus they was in very short supply. I remember having 10 discs flow in meaning they ended up costing around $120 a piece!

On the up side producing a encyclopedia on a disc back then had automatic copy protection since almost no one had burners let alone hard discs big enough to hold even a single CD :-)


RE: Who needs this ?
By AGAC on 6/12/2006 7:33:57 PM , Rating: 2
Over an hour to fill a disk. Disks overpriced. Format wars... Count me out! Just give me an HD-DVD BD PLAYER so I can enjoy high def content and I´ll take care of my backups on an external hard disk.


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