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According to the White House, no data was accessed or stolen from classified networks

The White House announced that it had been the victim of a cyber attack, but the hackers didn't get away with any valuable information.

According to a report from Politico, the attack was geared toward a White House Military Office computer system. However, the White House said that the attack was isolated and that it affected an "unclassified network," so no data was stolen. 

It was confirmed that the hackers were from China, and that the method for the attack was "spear phishing." This means that the hackers sent an email that contained links or download attachments that were labeled with important tags or phrases to lure in the reader. However, once they click on the links or download the attachment, malware is released into the computer system.

Just last month, it was announced that the White House is working with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and others to create an executive order to counter cyber security threats. However, many argue that an executive order isn't good enough -- they say cyber security legislation is necessary because it can offer greater consequences for hackers, give the DHS funding for cyber security workers, etc. 


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RE: Just saw this
By Decom on 10/3/2012 7:01:49 AM , Rating: 1
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Mumbarak was overthrown by egyptians and the US considered him an ally, but did not step in to prevent the uprising because Obama thought it was democracy springing up in Egypt all on its own. Unfortunately that's not what happened as the recent events have shown. Hitler was also elected, BTW...that tidbit seems to slip under the radar a lot of times.


Egypt got it's own democratic elections and the Muslim Brotherhood came to power. You can't bemoan the fact America let the elections happen and then didn't like the outcome. Besides, the Muslim Brotherhood represents less than 25% of the electorate.AS I stated earlier, they were the most organised at the time, like all newly democratic countries things will take time to iron themselves out and then we'll hopefully see a more neutral government.When will America realise you can't be dipping your toes into whatever country you like to force outcomes. Do you really understand why these "Radical Extremists" hate the USA so much?

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Fuel prices are up in America because Obama insists on forcing alternative fuels instead of giving the OK for domestic oil production. He wants to force people into hybrids and electric cars that most people do not want rather than creating a plan for a smooth transition. The average fuel prices in the US from 2000-2008 was lower than the average under Obama, and when Bush left office fuel was under $2 per gallon and now it's nearly double (after our recovery).


It is true that Obama seems to pushing a Green agenda, but you still dodged my point of Gas prices being between $1.60 to over $4 during Bush's Presidency. You cannot blame Obama for the gas prices which are dictated by the markets. Tell me, what was George Bush doing when gas prices were over $4 ??

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You see, Europeans have always been lefties that's why you ended up with so many dicatorships throughout your history...so it makes perfect sense that someone who has fallen on their face would see moderate news reporting as "far right". You do realize that "far right" politics would essentially be promoting anarchy and I have yet to see anyone on Fox say we should abolish government altogether and let everyone fend for themselves. America was created as a big "fcuk you" to the european socialists who wanted (and had) totalitarian control over the people. Unfortunately for the US, we've had a disproportionate amount of liberals festering in our country who would see it become another socialist dystopia.


This gave me a huge chuckle, "far right" politics doesn't equate to anarchy in relation to Fox news. You talk about totalitarian control, name another country in which it costs over $1 million dollars to get a seat in the house, over $10 million to get a seat in the senate, where it costs over $1 Billion to get the presidency and where money equals free speech. Where your politicians are legally bribed through "lobbying" and where money equates to free speech.How much of those founding principles do you still think exist today when your political system is one of the most openly corrupt on the planet. Granted, America was founded with great principles to get away from British Rule, however not all Europeans are "lefties" as you so willfully tar us all with the same brush.

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The democratic party has been a bane to America ever since it gained traction among the lazy, unmotivated people who believe someone else should take care of them from cradle to grave. Democrats voted against abolishing slavery. Democrats voted against civil rights. Democrats in governing positions breed poverty and dependence, diminished opportunity for entrepreneurs and pretty much all the crap that we were trying to get away from when we fought to establish the USA hundreds of years ago.


I don't know why you're ranting at me about the Dems, however I consider myself a fiscal conservative and agree that laziness breeds laziness.

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The truth is toxic to people who form their ideologies on a platform of lies and half-truths...but let's take an example of something recently aired on Fox. They ask why Obama did not take a break from campaigning when the US Embassy in Libya was attacked on 9/11. No other network paid much attention to what was going on over there, instead they tried to make Romney look like the bad guy for making a strong statement (like Obama should have) about the incident. Give me an example of a Fox news story that is an outright lie. Please. I'd love to see it.


This was a softball question, Politifact "Lie of the Year" for 3 years running went to Fox News '09,'10,'11. Fox excels in half truths and warped ideology, they exist to smear the other side.I'm not saying that both sides don't do it, but to the outside observer Fox goes much farther and seedier with their "reporting"

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All that animosity you have toward Fox only affirms their effectiveness of telling you things you don't want to hear - aka the truth.


I don't have animosity against Fox, they don't affect me with their reporting, I'm not American. I just call Bullshit when I see Bullshit. I will say that they do report stories that none of the other networks touch on, and for this they should be congratulated, but a turd is still a turd.


RE: Just saw this
By EricMartello on 10/3/2012 8:19:16 PM , Rating: 2
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Egypt got it's own democratic elections and the Muslim Brotherhood came to power. You can't bemoan the fact America let the elections happen and then didn't like the outcome.


Wow, way to ignore what actually happened, bro. Mumbarak was not voted out of office, he was physically dragged out of office, beaten and killed. To say the muslim brotherhood was elected is a joke. They cast their vote for the only choice they had but they would have assumed power one way or the other.

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Do you really understand why these "Radical Extremists" hate the USA so much?


Hating people you disagree with only shows a lack of civility...and they do not like Europe much either. Don't try to act like you're on the high road.

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It is true that Obama seems to pushing a Green agenda, but you still dodged my point of Gas prices being between $1.60 to over $4 during Bush's Presidency. You cannot blame Obama for the gas prices which are dictated by the markets. Tell me, what was George Bush doing when gas prices were over $4 ??


Seems to be? No, he is. There is no uncertainty there.

I didn't dodge anything - but you are ignoring the fact that gas was lower under bush than under obama on average for the duration of their respective presidencies.

You were also incorrect about what a president can or cannot do to affect the price of gas by saying that the president has no control over the prices.

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This gave me a huge chuckle, "far right" politics doesn't equate to anarchy in relation to Fox news.


Far right political ideology DOES equate to anarchy and that was what you accused Fox of representing.

The left-wing media in this country (and our government) is already exhibiting the characteristics of a far left ideology - socialism. The media does not report on issues they should be covering, the do not ask Obama tough questions or demand accountability - they happily play along with whatever BS the whitehouse wants them to. This is propaganda. The only thing missing is a dictator who tells us he is "scaling down the size of government" when in reality he is consolidating power for himself.

Fox News provides coverage that leans right (which is NOT a bad thing) and is fairly moderate. If you perceive it to be "far right" it's not because they're anarchist, it's because you are too far left.

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You talk about totalitarian control, name another country in which it costs over $1 million dollars to get a seat in the house, over $10 million to get a seat in the senate, where it costs over $1 Billion to get the presidency and where money equals free speech.


First of all, any US citizen can run for office. It falls upon them to raise the money needed to get their message out because they are essentially ADVERTISING. Your political message, as a candidate, is competing with other messages for airtime on TV & Radio, as well as ad impressions on websites. This market determines the relative costs of running for office.

The larger your audience the more expensive it becomes to reach them...so what are you suggesting here? That anyone running for office has their expenses paid for them by taxpayers? LOL

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Where your politicians are legally bribed through "lobbying" and where money equates to free speech.


Your quip about free speech is a joke. The internet has made it incredibly easy for any m0ron with a computer to really take advantage of their 1st amendment rights AND reach a large audience. In the past the only way to be heard was to be lucky enough to be published in a newspaper OR write your own book and pay to have it distributed.

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How much of those founding principles do you still think exist today when your political system is one of the most openly corrupt on the planet.


You are right - corruption is present in our government and because our government is so large and ever-expanding that corruption has many places to hide. All the more reason to scale it down in both size and scope.

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however not all Europeans are "lefties" as you so willfully tar us


You are not making a strong case for europeans being anything other than lefties with a lot of what you're saying...in fact Obama's policies probably come across to you as being on the right.

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I don't know why you're ranting at me about the Dems, however I consider myself a fiscal conservative and agree that laziness breeds laziness.


Then I can't see you having a problem with a lot of what is said on Fox...because a lot of what they discuss is the high number of people in US relying on government handouts to continue living, and the fact that this system is stifling the economy across the board.

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Fox excels in half truths and warped ideology, they exist to smear the other side.I'm not saying that both sides don't do it, but to the outside observer Fox goes much farther and seedier with their "reporting"


You may be confusing their news reports with their primetime shows hosted by pundits...but either way, with all that seedy reporting you should have no trouble linking to a specific example of something they said that is a lie or even a 50% lie.


RE: Just saw this
By Decom on 10/4/2012 9:52:45 AM , Rating: 2
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Wow, way to ignore what actually happened, bro. Mumbarak was not voted out of office, he was physically dragged out of office, beaten and killed. To say the muslim brotherhood was elected is a joke. They cast their vote for the only choice they had but they would have assumed power one way or the other.


And you say I ignored what actually happened!!, Mubarak was forced to resign, and was then arrested and prosecuted for the killing of innocent civilians. AS for the Muslim brotherhood, they got about 30% of the seats in their House, and here's the kicker. The President Mohamed Morsi got about 25% of the vote, with only about a 45% turnout. There were a whole host of independents running this time, when things settle and the opposition realign the MB will be out on it's ass.

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Seems to be? No, he is. There is no uncertainty there. I didn't dodge anything - but you are ignoring the fact that gas was lower under bush than under obama on average for the duration of their respective presidencies. You were also incorrect about what a president can or cannot do to affect the price of gas by saying that the president has no control over the prices.


Again, a President has no affect on Oil prices, even if Obama were to "Drill Baby Drill" the Oil produced would be sold on the open market, it wouldn't have some magical influence on bringing prices down in the USA. Market forces and a conglomerate of Oil producing nations dictate the prices.Supply and demand doesn't even come into it, it's a rigged game.

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Far right political ideology DOES equate to anarchy and that was what you accused Fox of representing. The left-wing media in this country (and our government) is already exhibiting the characteristics of a far left ideology - socialism. The media does not report on issues they should be covering, the do not ask Obama tough questions or demand accountability - they happily play along with whatever BS the whitehouse wants them to. This is propaganda. The only thing missing is a dictator who tells us he is "scaling down the size of government" when in reality he is consolidating power for himself. Fox News provides coverage that leans right (which is NOT a bad thing) and is fairly moderate. If you perceive it to be "far right" it's not because they're anarchist, it's because you are too far left.


Why do you keep equating far right ideology with Anarchy?
To the outside observer Fox exists as the Media Arm of the RNC. Not once have I seen a positive story on Fox about the left. Again, they tread where others dare not and this is a good thing, politicians should be held accountable by both sides of your media, but that's where your problems lie, your "News" outlets have huge political bias. When this happens they cease to become News outlets and only mouthpieces for their respective parties.

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First of all, any US citizen can run for office. It falls upon them to raise the money needed to get their message out because they are essentially ADVERTISING. Your political message, as a candidate, is competing with other messages for airtime on TV & Radio, as well as ad impressions on websites. This market determines the relative costs of running for office. The larger your audience the more expensive it becomes to reach them...so what are you suggesting here? That anyone running for office has their expenses paid for them by taxpayers? LOL


Certainly not by the taxpayer, but campaign expenses should have a limit, without limits your Politicians have become puppets of whoever wields the most dollars.Also, by having just a two-party system it severely discourages any "US Citizen" from running. Go have alook how many independents are in the house and Senate? This goes back to my earlier point about the blatant legal corruption and bribery.
You need to get the cash out if you have any hope of reducing your ballooning deficits and getting back on the road to solvency.

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Your quip about free speech is a joke. The internet has made it incredibly easy for any m0ron with a computer to really take advantage of their 1st amendment rights AND reach a large audience. In the past the only way to be heard was to be lucky enough to be published in a newspaper OR write your own book and pay to have it distributed.


Wishful thinking comes to mind with this one.The chances of your message being heard in a sea of the Internet are fat to slim.

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You are not making a strong case for europeans being anything other than lefties with a lot of what you're saying...in fact Obama's policies probably come across to you as being on the right.


While some of Europe has gone overboard on the socialism, some countries have not. Again, I'm a fiscal conservative and
open on the social issues, were all adults right. A lot of what Obama has done could be construed as continuing with a lot of what Bush did. Continue the wars, keep Gitmo open, run up the deficit. Passing the fiscal buck onto our children is not the answer, and until the financial incentive for politicians to be there not to line their pockets, but to contribute to the good of the country, America will continue along just fine with the mess they are in.
It makes me laugh when Americans slag off Greece etc, have you looked at what your deficits are and are projected to be.


RE: Just saw this
By EricMartello on 10/5/2012 12:24:07 AM , Rating: 2
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Mubarak was forced to resign, and was then arrested and prosecuted for the killing of innocent civilians.


Ohhh really? So who is prosecuting him now? The same people who prosecute America for being the source of all evil and want to annihilate Israel because they're jews and not muslims? Right, you're clearly seeing this for what it is.

The fact of the matter is that you don't know what happened - you just know what you've been told, same as me...and the "reality" of your interpretation does not mesh with the reality on the ground.

But hey, believe whatever you want.

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Again, a President has no affect on Oil prices, even if Obama were to "Drill Baby Drill" the Oil produced would be sold on the open market, it wouldn't have some magical influence on bringing prices down in the USA.


Even if the oil was put on the open market rather than refined and sold directly to the US gas stations, the additional supply would have reduced prices because US and global demand has been fairly steady. Obama and most on the left WANT gas prices high so that their green energy agenda gains traction.

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Market forces and a conglomerate of Oil producing nations dictate the prices.


That's true if we're buying oil from an OPEC country but not if we're producing the oil at home. The reason we import oil is due to eccentric EPA regulations that basically say if we start drilling at home the world is going to end.

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Supply and demand doesn't even come into it, it's a rigged game.


See, you're beginning to get it but not completely. It is rigged if you import oil, but if you are producing it domestically you can give tax credits to companies to sell it locally rather than exporting it, in other words, allow them to make more profit by selling domestically via policy. Why do you think we have tariffs at all and why should oil be excluded?

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Why do you keep equating far right ideology with Anarchy?


If you're asking this question maybe you should do some research before replying. Far right implies extremism and far right extremism is anarchy. Do you know what anarchy is? It's probably not what you think...it's a type of social structure where people live in small, isolated groups and there is no semblance of any centralized government. It's still hierarchical, but more along the lines of what you'd see in the animal kingdom. Anarchy, contrary to popular belief, is not "utter chaos" - it's a lack of a governing authority.

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To the outside observer Fox exists as the Media Arm of the RNC. Not once have I seen a positive story on Fox about the left.


So we've gone from Fox being outright liars to Fox just being "mean spirited" toward the left. Honesty I cannot say much good about the left. It never leads to good for a country. European history and even world history prior to the USA being established is evidence of this fact.

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Again, they tread where others dare not and this is a good thing, politicians should be held accountable by both sides of your media, but that's where your problems lie, your "News" outlets have huge political bias.


The people on Fox are not right-wing ideologues. If Romney does bad, they acknowledge it. Look at the left's reaction to the debates last night were Obama was totally demolished.

The left-biased media is pushing reports like "Jim Leher didn't do his job" or "Bye bye big bird". This kind of nonsense is not news.

The people at Fox are people who love America; the people on the left want to reshape America into something that suits their agenda.

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When this happens they cease to become News outlets and only mouthpieces for their respective parties.


Fox does consistently invite members of the left, including political candidates themselves, to appear on air and say what they have to say. Most of them decline...and it's not because there is some bias against them at Fox, it's due to them not being able to defend their views when faced with tough questions.

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Wishful thinking comes to mind with this one.The chances of your message being heard in a sea of the Internet are fat to slim.


People often confuse the ability of their message to be heard with the fact that maybe a lot of people think their message is just idiotic.

The fact that anyone can say anything on the internet means you have to have a compelling message and sound delivery of the message to get noticed.

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While some of Europe has gone overboard on the socialism, some countries have not. Again, I'm a fiscal conservative and open on the social issues, were all adults right.

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A lot of what Obama has done could be construed as continuing with a lot of what Bush did. Continue the wars, keep Gitmo open, run up the deficit.


Bush is often maligned by the media, as it is "cool" to do to anyone who is not on the left, but he did deal with 9/11 quite well. He did fend off a major recession coming off of Clinton with the dot-com bust. He did ensure that both businesses and people were prosperous for the majority of his presidency.

What Obama failed to do is address the immediate problems facing America - instead he spent his time and energy primarily pushing Obamacare through. He said he would cut the deficit in half in 2008; he added $6 trillion to it and that number is still going up.

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It makes me laugh when Americans slag off Greece etc, have you looked at what your deficits are and are projected to be.


Most Americans don't want to end up like Greece or Spain, and we certainly do not want to become a welfare state like Sweden.


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