quote: Obama was against gitmo and against waterboarding (he called it torture).
quote: Finally, with what happened in Libya on 9/11 as well as allowing the muslim brotherhood to take over Egypt essentially destabilized the middle east and put America at risk for more terrorist attacks.
quote: Fuel prices were quite cheap under Bush compared to how they are now. Median income was higher under Bush and despite a deficit we had the highest tax revenues in recent history under Bush thanks to a reduction on capital gains tax...things were not nearly as bad as the socialists would have you believe.
quote: Do you still spell Microsoft as "Micro$oft"? Fox News does provide the most accurate and complete news coverage - they cover stories that all other networks should be covering but don't.
quote: Bush Spending: $4 trillion in 8 years.
quote: Obama Spending: $6 trillion in ~3.5 years.
quote: Economic stats are dismal; the unemployment rate is cited as being around 8.3% but since they do not consider people who have given up the actual figure is probably over 15%. GDP has recently fallen under 2%.
quote: Cutting social programs is a necessity. They have not improved the situation in the country and have only served to allow democrats to stay in positions of power. The USA is a Republic, not a communist state for socialist underachievers. If you really believe all that crap you are spewing then move to europe and enjoy being coddled by the government...while it lasts. With France adding a 75% wealth tax people are bailing on that country in droves.
quote: aharris02 How dare you bring our Police/Fire Dept./Libraries/Post Offices into this! They're not socialist, they're Amur'can. /s.
quote: jeffkro Decom, way to smack him around with the facts
quote: Decom I believe they should be tried in civilain courts under terrorism laws.This act of holding them offshore in limbo makes America come off as hypocritical, practice what you preach and all.
quote: Jeffk464 US forces are bound by the Geneva Convention, end of story. At least unless the US decides to no longer be governed by it.
quote: cruisin3style I just want to comment on the Fox News comment... Fox won a lawsuit in Florida that says it is not illegal to falsify the news ...I watched a documentary where the employees that filed the suit explained the case, it wasn't biased BS they were just trying to do their jobs and Fox wanted to cover up these reporters' findings so they wouldn't piss off or get sued by Monsanto over the bovine growth horomone.
quote: Granted MSNBC leans the other way, but in my opinion nowhere near as bad or as spiteful as Fox.
quote: Since terrorists are not part of any officially recognized army from any combatant nation we were currently engaged with, the Geneva Convention doesn't apply. Sorry to burst your bubble.
quote: The rest of your post...just garbage as well.
quote: I'm european, let me give you a little insight into how we see American influence under both Bush/Obama
quote: Waterboarding is Torture as defined by the Geneva convention.
quote: America didn't let the Muslim Brotherhood take over in Egypt.
quote: I believe when these other parties consolidate together the MB will be out on their ass.
quote: Fuel prices have nothing to do with any President in power, they are dictated through the markets, and fuel prices fluctuated under Bush from around $1.70 to over $4.
quote: Fox news leans so far to the right that it needs help not to fall over.
quote: With someone who has nothing to gain in your elections and by comparing both Fox and MSNBC it is clear to anyone who swings neither left/right that they exist only to bash your President and the Democratic Party.
quote: Their reporting is toxic and couldn't be farther from the truth.
quote: Fox is viewed as a laughing stock outside the states.
quote: Mumbarak was overthrown by egyptians and the US considered him an ally, but did not step in to prevent the uprising because Obama thought it was democracy springing up in Egypt all on its own. Unfortunately that's not what happened as the recent events have shown. Hitler was also elected, BTW...that tidbit seems to slip under the radar a lot of times.
quote: Fuel prices are up in America because Obama insists on forcing alternative fuels instead of giving the OK for domestic oil production. He wants to force people into hybrids and electric cars that most people do not want rather than creating a plan for a smooth transition. The average fuel prices in the US from 2000-2008 was lower than the average under Obama, and when Bush left office fuel was under $2 per gallon and now it's nearly double (after our recovery).
quote: You see, Europeans have always been lefties that's why you ended up with so many dicatorships throughout your history...so it makes perfect sense that someone who has fallen on their face would see moderate news reporting as "far right". You do realize that "far right" politics would essentially be promoting anarchy and I have yet to see anyone on Fox say we should abolish government altogether and let everyone fend for themselves. America was created as a big "fcuk you" to the european socialists who wanted (and had) totalitarian control over the people. Unfortunately for the US, we've had a disproportionate amount of liberals festering in our country who would see it become another socialist dystopia.
quote: The democratic party has been a bane to America ever since it gained traction among the lazy, unmotivated people who believe someone else should take care of them from cradle to grave. Democrats voted against abolishing slavery. Democrats voted against civil rights. Democrats in governing positions breed poverty and dependence, diminished opportunity for entrepreneurs and pretty much all the crap that we were trying to get away from when we fought to establish the USA hundreds of years ago.
quote: The truth is toxic to people who form their ideologies on a platform of lies and half-truths...but let's take an example of something recently aired on Fox. They ask why Obama did not take a break from campaigning when the US Embassy in Libya was attacked on 9/11. No other network paid much attention to what was going on over there, instead they tried to make Romney look like the bad guy for making a strong statement (like Obama should have) about the incident. Give me an example of a Fox news story that is an outright lie. Please. I'd love to see it.
quote: All that animosity you have toward Fox only affirms their effectiveness of telling you things you don't want to hear - aka the truth.
quote: Egypt got it's own democratic elections and the Muslim Brotherhood came to power. You can't bemoan the fact America let the elections happen and then didn't like the outcome.
quote: Do you really understand why these "Radical Extremists" hate the USA so much?
quote: It is true that Obama seems to pushing a Green agenda, but you still dodged my point of Gas prices being between $1.60 to over $4 during Bush's Presidency. You cannot blame Obama for the gas prices which are dictated by the markets. Tell me, what was George Bush doing when gas prices were over $4 ??
quote: This gave me a huge chuckle, "far right" politics doesn't equate to anarchy in relation to Fox news.
quote: You talk about totalitarian control, name another country in which it costs over $1 million dollars to get a seat in the house, over $10 million to get a seat in the senate, where it costs over $1 Billion to get the presidency and where money equals free speech.
quote: Where your politicians are legally bribed through "lobbying" and where money equates to free speech.
quote: How much of those founding principles do you still think exist today when your political system is one of the most openly corrupt on the planet.
quote: however not all Europeans are "lefties" as you so willfully tar us
quote: I don't know why you're ranting at me about the Dems, however I consider myself a fiscal conservative and agree that laziness breeds laziness.
quote: Fox excels in half truths and warped ideology, they exist to smear the other side.I'm not saying that both sides don't do it, but to the outside observer Fox goes much farther and seedier with their "reporting"
quote: Wow, way to ignore what actually happened, bro. Mumbarak was not voted out of office, he was physically dragged out of office, beaten and killed. To say the muslim brotherhood was elected is a joke. They cast their vote for the only choice they had but they would have assumed power one way or the other.
quote: Seems to be? No, he is. There is no uncertainty there. I didn't dodge anything - but you are ignoring the fact that gas was lower under bush than under obama on average for the duration of their respective presidencies. You were also incorrect about what a president can or cannot do to affect the price of gas by saying that the president has no control over the prices.
quote: Far right political ideology DOES equate to anarchy and that was what you accused Fox of representing. The left-wing media in this country (and our government) is already exhibiting the characteristics of a far left ideology - socialism. The media does not report on issues they should be covering, the do not ask Obama tough questions or demand accountability - they happily play along with whatever BS the whitehouse wants them to. This is propaganda. The only thing missing is a dictator who tells us he is "scaling down the size of government" when in reality he is consolidating power for himself. Fox News provides coverage that leans right (which is NOT a bad thing) and is fairly moderate. If you perceive it to be "far right" it's not because they're anarchist, it's because you are too far left.
quote: First of all, any US citizen can run for office. It falls upon them to raise the money needed to get their message out because they are essentially ADVERTISING. Your political message, as a candidate, is competing with other messages for airtime on TV & Radio, as well as ad impressions on websites. This market determines the relative costs of running for office. The larger your audience the more expensive it becomes to reach them...so what are you suggesting here? That anyone running for office has their expenses paid for them by taxpayers? LOL
quote: Your quip about free speech is a joke. The internet has made it incredibly easy for any m0ron with a computer to really take advantage of their 1st amendment rights AND reach a large audience. In the past the only way to be heard was to be lucky enough to be published in a newspaper OR write your own book and pay to have it distributed.
quote: You are not making a strong case for europeans being anything other than lefties with a lot of what you're saying...in fact Obama's policies probably come across to you as being on the right.
quote: Mubarak was forced to resign, and was then arrested and prosecuted for the killing of innocent civilians.
quote: Again, a President has no affect on Oil prices, even if Obama were to "Drill Baby Drill" the Oil produced would be sold on the open market, it wouldn't have some magical influence on bringing prices down in the USA.
quote: Market forces and a conglomerate of Oil producing nations dictate the prices.
quote: Supply and demand doesn't even come into it, it's a rigged game.
quote: Why do you keep equating far right ideology with Anarchy?
quote: To the outside observer Fox exists as the Media Arm of the RNC. Not once have I seen a positive story on Fox about the left.
quote: Again, they tread where others dare not and this is a good thing, politicians should be held accountable by both sides of your media, but that's where your problems lie, your "News" outlets have huge political bias.
quote: When this happens they cease to become News outlets and only mouthpieces for their respective parties.
quote: Wishful thinking comes to mind with this one.The chances of your message being heard in a sea of the Internet are fat to slim.
quote: While some of Europe has gone overboard on the socialism, some countries have not. Again, I'm a fiscal conservative and open on the social issues, were all adults right. quote: A lot of what Obama has done could be construed as continuing with a lot of what Bush did. Continue the wars, keep Gitmo open, run up the deficit. Bush is often maligned by the media, as it is "cool" to do to anyone who is not on the left, but he did deal with 9/11 quite well. He did fend off a major recession coming off of Clinton with the dot-com bust. He did ensure that both businesses and people were prosperous for the majority of his presidency.What Obama failed to do is address the immediate problems facing America - instead he spent his time and energy primarily pushing Obamacare through. He said he would cut the deficit in half in 2008; he added $6 trillion to it and that number is still going up. quote: It makes me laugh when Americans slag off Greece etc, have you looked at what your deficits are and are projected to be. Most Americans don't want to end up like Greece or Spain, and we certainly do not want to become a welfare state like Sweden.
quote: A lot of what Obama has done could be construed as continuing with a lot of what Bush did. Continue the wars, keep Gitmo open, run up the deficit.
quote: It makes me laugh when Americans slag off Greece etc, have you looked at what your deficits are and are projected to be.
quote: Obama gets hammered on adding a massive amount to the deficit, however very little of the total was added under his term. You've 2 x Unfunded Wars and Unfunded Medicare to add into that figure.
quote: Europe is running zero or negative GDPs.
quote: We have just come through the biggest recession since the 1930s and America has continued to recover faster than most nations that were impacted. Most countries would kill for your growth.
quote: Also, not too long ago America had a tax rate above 70% for decades and I don't think you did too bad then.
quote: One other thing, this socialist nonsense i hear spouted so often on Fox and other right leaning sites, the best countries are a mix of capitalism and social, what do you think your Police/Fire Dept./Libraries/Post Office are? Just curious.
quote: More than half of all Americans are receiving some type of government handout and incidentally the majority of our tax revenue goes to pay for these handouts. It's not defense spending that is bogging down the US economy.
quote: Please provide a source of this. NO I DON'T WANNA HEAR THAT SINCE 47% OF PEOPLE PAY NO INCOME TAX THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING A HANDOUT.
quote: I suppose to you those freeloadin' troops that are giving their lives for you to have the freedom to post such a flaming comment should go away so to 'stimulate' your version of what the economy should be then. Arrogant prick.
quote: How DARE you say veterans 'don't pay their fair share' and that shit. That's not just anti-american, that's fucking anti-republican!
quote: But people like you are the ones smiling and walking up to vets when you bump into them at walmart thanking them for what they do and when you turn your cheek you call them freeloaders.
quote: quote: Obama gets hammered on adding a massive amount to the deficit, however very little of the total was added under his term. You've 2 x Unfunded Wars and Unfunded Medicare to add into that figure.
quote: What budget would the congressional budget office be reporting on? Obama has not passed a budget since he took office.
quote: I wonder how many other European countries are considering a 75% wealth tax? That would surely bump up your growth. You living in Europe should know exactly why your economy is stagnant - big government, big spending and a lack of emphasis on creating opportunity for the individual.
quote: Our GDP is slowing down. We've been kicking the can down the road to give the illusion of growth but there is no substance behind it. The truth is that until we scale down the size, scope and spending of our government and create an environment where small businesses can be established and thrive, it's going to be stagnant. The US has shift too far left because a lot of people are desperate and buy into the false promises put forth by socialist leaders: - Wealth redistribution. - High taxes on investments (capital gains). - Unending social programs that keep people down rather than giving them a way to improve their life. - Continual erosion of civil liberties with laws like NDAA, ACTA and DMCA getting the nod by Obama.
quote: What? You're going to have to back that 70% tax rate claim up or explain how you're arriving at the number - we've never had a rate that high on income tax or capital gains.
quote: It's not "socialist nonsense" - it's calling it like it is. Socialism is when the government gets too big and starts running peoples' lives and taking over businesses and industries. It's also a breeding ground for dictatorships. Police, Fire and Military are basic services that the government can and should provide - private and public labor unions are examples of socialism gone awry. The US is the best country, hands down, and it is a constitutional republic that got to where it is today due to capitalism and the idea that any individual has the OPPORTUNITY to achieve their greatest dreams. Opportunity does not mean hand-out.
quote: While that is true, here is a nice Graph for you to look at.I support neither Dems/Repubs,(as I'm not American), but the BS coming from both sides pisses me off.
quote: Again, the 75% is only above €800,000. Tarring Europe with the same brush is a cop out.
quote: Where was the ourage when Bush was running huge deficits? I didn't hear one Repub bemoan Wealth Redistribution etc. back then.Everything has to be cut, absolutely everything, if America wants to get it's fiscal house in order. i don't agree with raising taxes until every last dollar has been shred from programs, all programs, on both sides, and that includes your Military.
quote: Again, another softball :- here you go.
quote: Social seems to be a dirty word in America.
quote: As I stated in a previous post, the best countries are a mix of Capitalism and Social programs.
quote: As for saying the US is the best country hands down, there are a lot of metrics which would disagree with this statement, and this opens up another huge debate for which I don't have the time right now.