quote: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
quote: The result? You are forced to agree to their unreasonable terms.
quote: Should they ask you for your password so they can see the stuff that you deem private? Absolutely not.
quote: You're right, this bill shouldn't be necessary, but when companies/schools overstep what should be obvious boundaries without consequence, something needs to be done.
quote: Should we use the force of government to prevent them from asking for it? I contend no.
quote: That is a good question. I guess the answer best depends on whether the government is supposed to protect its citizens, and what from.
quote: The linked article stated government jobs, and colleges (again government).
quote: Just some other corrections for you. ...
quote: you have to move to another state where either it isn't popular, or isn't legal for them to ask. Is that OK? Should you be forced to move ...
quote: Is it OK that they either have to give up that information to provide for themselves/their family, or work at a job where they can't make ends meet?
quote: So if it becomes the norm to require that information, and most people are willing to give up that information... and you can't get a job that provides you with the living you need to support yourself and your family... is it OK to have a law like this then?
quote: Or are you willing to move to another country just so you can keep your ideals?
quote: And then when you don't get the job that you need to support your family, what then.
quote: I think having states have the right to make a law such as this (even if it just clarifies what should be common sense from the constitution makes sense). Much better than the federal government getting involved.
quote: When you have a. An economy with a dearth of jobs and b. Employers abusing current or potential employees because of a., then yes laws like this are needed.
quote: This doesn't "grow" the Government.
quote: By your logic we shouldn't have anti discriminatory employment laws either. Because if an employer says you're black, so you can't work here, you can always say "No thanks, I'm not comfortable with that"???
quote: Please, stop confusing Conservatives with Anarchists. It gets VERY old.
quote: But to claim it doesn't grow the CA government is foolish.
quote: I'm not advocating anarchy, and to suggest I was is disingenuous.
quote: What do I care? I don't live there. That's the beauty of states rights.
quote: But how does this grow the Government?
quote: This actually PREVENTS Government waste
quote: Let's not pretend that handing over your passwords to a complete stranger has NEVER lead to abuses before. Get real.
quote: My point was that I get accused of being a "right wing" radical, but the second I support ANY action by a Government someone like you flips out and says "I thought you were a Conservative, you betrayed us bla bla".
quote: But when you support legislation like this, it makes me believe my assessment of your principles aren't what I suspected they were.
quote: It's that you'd support this, unnecessary government action.
quote: This is what I'm talking about. What exactly is that supposed to mean? Why can't I just articulate the issue without it being personal?
quote: I personally do not believe that it's appropriate for employers to make such requests. In my opinion, it's crossing a line.
quote: almost certain that someone else will come in and gladly consent
quote: This notion you have in your head that anyone can land a job anywhere at any time
quote: and are never in a position where they feel they have to compromise rights they normally wouldn't
quote: that these agencies are going to have to grow substantially just to handle them
quote: Telling someone to do what I say or be punished is not giving them a choice.
quote: People often simply are not in a position to refuse a job because they don't like the company's hiring process. Even if said applicant refuses the request and moves on, it's almost certain that someone else will come in and gladly consent in order to land the job because they *NEED* the job.
quote: I am Spuke, and I support this new law. :)
quote: Yeah I think it's acceptable that employers looks someone up on the Internet and take a look at your Facebook or whatever, but I draw the line at having to hand over passwords. That's just...no, too far.
quote: Hey while I'm at it why don't I just hand over my house keys! So, you know, you can come 'research' my home and see if my life matched up to your standards of employment?
quote: An employer might argue that there is a fine line between this and a standard background check. And he might have a point, but in my opinion this crosses that line. To make handing over private account information a term of employment? Hmm..no, I don't think so.
quote: I'm the first one to bash California when warranted, but I have no problem with the legislation here. This is the kind of thing laws are supposed to exist for.