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Microsoft previously admitted to not offering users a choice in browsers for Windows 7

Microsoft is been in hot water more than once over its practices of bundling browsers with its Windows operating system. Several years ago, EU regulators forced Microsoft to go to a ballot screen that allowed people more clarity in their choice for browsers. More recently, Microsoft has found itself under fire for changes to the browser ballot screen in Windows 7 and could face additional fines.
EU regulators announced today that they are preparing to charge Microsoft for failing to comply with the 2009 ruling.
"The next step is to open a formal proceeding into the company's breach of an agreement. We are working on this," EU Competition Commissioner Joaquin Almunia told reporters.
"It should not be a long investigation because the company itself explicitly recognized its breach of the agreement."
Regulators began investigating Microsoft in July; marking the first time Microsoft had failed to meet commitments under the EU antitrust ruling against it. Microsoft faces massive fines of up to 10% of its global turnover reports Reuters. Surprisingly, Microsoft admitted that it did not offer users a choice of browsers in Windows 7.
Microsoft may not be the only major technology firm in hot water with EU regulators. Almunia has also warned Google that it faces problems if it doesn't do more to address allegations that it may have undermined its competitors in the search market.
"If remedies offered by Google can eliminate our concerns, we will succeed in reaching an agreement. Otherwise, the legal road is a long one," Almunia said.

Source: Reuters

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RE: Funny....
By Hardin on 9/27/2012 10:26:19 AM , Rating: 2
So how do you go on the internet to download another browser if the operating system doesn't have a browser?

RE: Funny....
By Shadowself on 9/27/2012 10:36:38 AM , Rating: 2
There is a huge difference between bundling a browser *with* the OS and bundling a browser *into* the OS.

Microsoft tried the latter and got smacked as I described elsewhere in this thread.

The problem is that the EU has not recognized that both the browser implementations (including IE's implementation) and competitive landscape have changed.

RE: Funny....
By andrewaggb on 9/27/2012 11:43:19 AM , Rating: 2
The thing is... I didn't use IE because it was bundled, I used it because it was way better than netscape.

And nowadays, do I use IE because it's bundled? No, I use Chrome and FF... because I like them better.

MS didn't block competing products, so...., to me it's a non-issue.

Anyways, I think WebOS, ChromeOS, etc show that MS isn't alone in thinking a browser should be part of the OS. And with Windows 8, it's doing it again (Metro apps)

RE: Funny....
By Reclaimer77 on 9/27/2012 11:59:06 AM , Rating: 1
It's just excuses for MS bashing idiots to make a controversy out of nothing. Whether or not the browser is part of the OS or not is irrelevant, IF consumer choice isn't harmed. And it wasn't. End of "controversy" imo.

RE: Funny....
By BZDTemp on 9/27/2012 12:17:15 PM , Rating: 2
Consumer choice was harmed. Microsoft used their OS control to push IE (and other stuff) to gain control of more markets. Damage has been done and was it not for the EU and other countries calling MS out for it the damage would be much worse.

RE: Funny....
By andrewaggb on 9/27/2012 12:58:28 PM , Rating: 2
I think it's a bit of gray area. Download windows server core (doesn't have ie) and then try to download something to it.

pretty quickly you'll be writing a powershell script in notepad... and that sucks (but at least they bundled notepad, or we'd be really screwed). It's unreasonable to not include a browser in a desktop os. It does put them in a position of power and most people will just use their browser etc. But it's a bad experience to not include a browser.

Same thing with the new windows market... poor experience to not include one, but by having one will damage the competition. this is actually worse though because afaik, other companies can't make their own metro market apps. Seems genuinely anti-competitive.

RE: Funny....
By Reclaimer77 on 9/27/2012 1:03:05 PM , Rating: 2
Oh come on. Seriously just shut up. A browser wasn't "pushed", it was given to customers for free. You know, that's a good thing in most people's book.

Seriously what were they supposed to do exactly? Please tell me. Release an OS with no browser? Or release an OS loaded with multiple competing browsers to satisfy your child-like notions of "fairness"?

Your idiotic anti-MS rantings on this are just pathetic. Go back into your cave, troll.

RE: Funny....
By Schrag4 on 9/27/2012 2:19:06 PM , Rating: 3
I really can't believe you're sticking with this narrative. Consumer choice can only truly be harmed if MS had prevented consumers from discovering and installing other browsers. It's not up to MS to educate consumers on competing browsers, it's up to the consumers themselves. If you really care about grandma using the best browser, go to her house and install it yourself. Grandma isn't harmed by her lack of education about browsers - she couldn't care less.

Oh, wait, did you post this from IE? Are you having trouble installing another browser? I'm sure someone here can walk you through it - hang in there, buddy.

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