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Nissan also sat up an independent global advisory board

Nissan has a handful of not so happy Leaf electric vehicle owners in the state of Arizona. The hotter the environment, the less drive time an electric vehicle's batteries can offer. Nissan has been catching significant flak over allegations that the battery packs in some of its Leaf EV's in the state of Arizona are having issues. 
 
In July of 2012, Nissan dealerships in the state of Arizona started taking $5,000 off the sticker price of the electric Leaf vehicle to sell the cars. Several Leaf owners in Arizona began complaining that the electric vehicles were losing significant battery capacity due to the hot environment.
 
Leaf owner Scott Yarosh said, "When I first purchased the vehicle, I could drive to and from work on a single charge, approximately 90 miles round trip. [Now] I can drive approximately 44 miles on this without having to stop and charge."
 
I Nissan's Carla Bailo, senior VP of research and development, stepped up and addressed Leaf owners in an open letter posted to the Leaf community at the MyNissanLeaf discussion forum. According to the open letter, several Leaf EVs were inspected in Arizona and were determined to be operating to specification and the battery capacity loss over time is consistent with their usage and the operating environment. Nissan declared no defects are found in these vehicles.
 
 
The letter also states,  "A small number of Nissan Leaf owners in Arizona are experiencing a greater than average battery capacity loss due to their unique usage cycle, which includes operating mileages that are higher than average in a high-temperature environment over a short period of time."
 
It sounds like what Nissan is saying is that losing significant driving range is normal. Most owners of the Leaf EV are going to have a hard time stomaching that claim.

Nissan has also promised more open communication with owners of the Leaf EV. The company created an independent global advisory board, headed by EV advocate Chelsea Sexton to help with customer communications and advise Nissan on strategy.

Nissan has promised that the 2013 Leaf will have a longer driving range.

Source: Autoblog



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RE: Why would anyone buy ...
By Spuke on 9/25/2012 5:29:48 PM , Rating: 2
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Electric Vehicles is the only solution to keep the current infrastructure where people own their own vehicles.
Really? Care to post some data that supports that claim?
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I enjoy my Leaf and plan to have it for at least another 5 years at which point I'll buy another EV.
I have no plans to even buy a hybrid in the next 10 years. I may just end up being that old man that hangs onto his super old, POS car. I'll buy what I choose to buy, period.


RE: Why would anyone buy ...
By toffty on 9/25/2012 7:52:24 PM , Rating: 2
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Really? Care to post some data that supports that claim?
Sure!

Gas power: Limited gas resources. Volatile price. Harmful to environment - spills especially. Funds OPEC (indirectly for the US). Highly inefficient use of energy - 60% energy is lost in heat instead of moving the vehicle.

Corn based fuel: Growing corn is difficult on the soil - nutrients - and the amount of fuel/resources to plow, plant, water, fertilize, and harvest the fields of corn uses a lot of fuel. The land needed for corn will also replace fields for food and increase food prices. In times of drought who gets the water? The corn fields or the humans?

Sugar Cane based fuel: More efficient than corn but still runs into the problem of sugar cane fields instead of food, water needs, and the need of high heat to create the fuel from sugar cane.

Compressed Natural Gas: Highly compressed gas in a tank is dangerous (much more so than batteries or gas tanks) due to fume leaks and explosions from a puncture or from ignition. Large amounts of energy (relative) to compress it. Still relies on hydrocarbons.

Hydrogen: Highly volatile. No efficient way to make it. Best way to get hydrogen is from hydrocarbons. Hydrolysis is highly inefficient as it uses more energy to divide water than will be returned when the hydrogen is recombined with oxygen; also uses drinking grade water which is better used for human consumption. Storage and transportation is a huge problem as Hydrogen escapes easily from containers. Home-based hydrolysis is possible but due to small scale it is even less efficient energy wise.

Electric Vehicles: The source of energy doesn't matter: Coal, Natural Gas, Nuclear, Wind, Solar, Dams all produce the same electrons. As the nation gets cleaner with more wind, solar, and hopefully nuclear the cleaner the EV drives. Battery technology is advancing at a very high pass now that large amounts of funding is going into R&D. Highly efficient with electricity use. ~ 15% energy loss from battery to movement.

Gas is getting near its high price again and $5/gal is not far off. At that point many more people will start to move away from ICE vehicles. For those who travel locally, EVs are perfect. For those that must travel long distances, hybrids are a good compromise for the time being; at least until a nationwide network of charging stations is in place, at which point EVs will be the only car anyone will ever need.

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I'll buy what I choose to buy, period
Who is telling you to by hybrids or EVs? I'm not.
I am simply pointing out that gas powered vehicles are not feasible for another century and no other propulsion system that's been proposed is any more feasible besides Electric Vehicles. I'm sorry that you like you ICE vehicle, but I'd ask you to please keep an open mind and if you're ever by a Nissan dealership, take a Leaf for a spin. It's not a sports car but the instant torque is still fun ;)


RE: Why would anyone buy ...
By toffty on 9/25/2012 8:25:01 PM , Rating: 2
Who is telling you to buy hybrids or EVs?

should be

Who is forcing you to buy hybrids of EVs?

I am saying that people should consider hybrids/EVs but am in no way forcing you to buy them =)


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