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Apple's maps app in iOS 6 shows quite a different view of the world from our own  (Source: assets.nydailynews.com)
Google pokes a few comments at Apple's failing maps app in iOS 6

Many iPhone users have decided that Apple's new home-grown maps app is subpar to Google Maps -- and Google's Exeutive Chairman Eric Schmidt knows it. 

"We think it would have been better if they kept ours. But what do I know?" said Schmidt. "What were we going to do, force them not to change their mind? It's their call." 

Apple and Google had teamed up back when the original iPhone was released in 2007 so that the new device would offer Google Maps and YouTube. This partnership stayed strong through iOS 5, which was released last year, but Apple recently decided to ditch Google Maps for its own creation in iOS 6.

However, many have cited troubles with Apple's new maps app. The main issues were geography and navigation, where the app showed a world that was much different from our own. Motorola even recently made fun of Apple's maps in a new ad, where the caption "#iLost" was placed underneath the failing iPhone app. 

Google has heard about iOS 6's map woes, but it isn't waiting around for Apple to come crawling back.

"I'm not doing any predictions," said Schmidt. "We want them to be our partner. We welcome that. I'm not going to speculate at all what they're going to do. They can answer that question as they see fit." 

Google can afford to gloat a little, though. Its Android operating system holds the number one spot in smartphone market share with over 500 million users around the world -- and it has a maps tool that actually works. In fact, Google Maps has all new features that were shown off on the Google Nexus 7 tablet.

"Take that Apple," said Schmidt. "That was a joke by the way."

Apple's iOS 6, which was released last week, has more than just map troubles. Earlier this week, a railway company in Switzerland called Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) accused Apple of stealing their clock design for the new mobile OS. SBB approached Apple looking for a settlement of some sort (likely licensing fees, but nothing has been confirmed). 

Source: Reuters



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Why not have a competitor?
By wickyman on 9/25/2012 2:02:45 PM , Rating: -1
According to Wikipedia, Google launched their mapping program 7 years and 7 months ago. Of course Google Maps is a superior product right now, they have been dumping some of their best efforts into making it so. In its first incarnation it was not very good at all as I recall, but they have been improving it at every chance. Apple is doing something brave and its either going to pay off by giving its products an exclusive edge...or Apple is going to kill the program and go back to Google. The Android OS itself has evolved from its first release into a very refined and feature rich OS. Google can take an idea, throw a ton of money and brain power at it, and eventually turn it into something great.

Apple have the money, they have the talent (some of which are ex-Google Maps team members/leaders), and they are willing to take the risk. I for one am willing to live with the change and hope for the best. Because if you don't like it, all I have to do is load up Safari on your iPhone, type in "maps.google.com" and use the webapp that works exactly like the old dedicated app.




RE: Why not have a competitor?
By phatboye on 9/25/2012 2:25:05 PM , Rating: 5
Everyone understands that Apple is new to the maps game and there will be problems initially, the problem is that this goes against the Apple "it just works" mindset. Instead of kicking Google's maps app from iOS 6 they should have kept Google's maps as the default until Apple was able to work out the kinks in their own map app.


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By name99 on 9/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: Why not have a competitor?
By dark matter on 9/25/2012 3:38:19 PM , Rating: 1
What a turd of a reply.

You might as well have said,

"hey we have a better looking compass than you do, It doesn't point north, but were working on it"

I don't look at a map and go "ooh, nice vetors, shame I'm in the wrong fucking place, but hey, gotta love those vectors man."


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By Omega215D on 9/25/2012 3:43:25 PM , Rating: 2
It's funny how Apple fanatics are so quick to dismiss and even make fun of other products and their user base then get really butthurt when their Holier-than-thou company hits many rough patches.


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By aliasfox on 9/25/2012 4:32:38 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not saying it's truly ready for prime time (I don't intend to update to iOS 6 in the near future, mainly because I want to be able to trust my map), but jumping in now they're only 7 years behind Google. If they wait until iOS 10 (iOSX?) they'll be 10-12 years behind.

Yes, it's a v1 product. Heck, if it were released as 'beta' it probably would've been better received. But let's see where they are in 12 months - if they still can't get it right an alarming amount of time, then we can be severely critical of them.

And besides, aren't Android supporters always screaming about wanting competition?


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By StevoLincolnite on 9/25/2012 4:54:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And besides, aren't Android supporters always screaming about wanting competition?


Competition is great when you want two key factors:
1) Lower Price.
2) More features etc'.

However, Google maps is free, without restriction.

More features and such is always welcome, but that's not going to happen with a highly inferior alternative.

Apple may develop something decent, but remember Google got it's maps to it's current level of polish without any real competition, hence it stands to believe that they won't stand still for no one.

Plus, down the track it wouldn't surprise me to see Apple try to monetize it's maps application, it is Apple after all. :)


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By msheredy on 9/25/2012 5:22:23 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
However, Google maps is free, without restriction.


Google maps may be free to you and me but Apple pays for that shit. Now they don't have to.

quote:
...it wouldn't surprise me to see Apple try to monetize it's maps application, it is Apple after all. :)


Yea they don't charge for iOS updates but they'll go ahead and tack a fee on their map app.

Palm meet forehead


By StevoLincolnite on 9/25/2012 11:24:01 PM , Rating: 2
Apple never had to pay for Google Maps to my knowledge.


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By tayb on 9/25/2012 5:57:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
However, Google maps is free, without restriction.


Google maps is not without restrictions. Why do you think Android has advanced route guidance and turn by turn navigation while iOS does not? The Google maps application for iOS existed before Android even existed... Google restricts its API to third parties to retain a competitive Android advantage.

quote:
Apple may develop something decent, but remember Google got it's maps to it's current level of polish without any real competition, hence it stands to believe that they won't stand still for no one.


Google was far from the first on the map scene and they weren't and never have been the only players in the field. TomTom, Garmin, MapQuest, Yahoo Maps, and Bing are just a few of the players who have a presence in the field or had a presence in the field.


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By dsumanik on 9/25/2012 9:28:40 PM , Rating: 2
This is the first time Apple corporate greed has been placed in front of the user experience.

This is abanding the very core principle that got apple to where it is today, and honestly combined with the lackluster QA / damaged phones being shipped, ridiculous new dock connector, and mediocre software upgrades i think there is a potential for a perfect storm of sorts for apple to slip here.

Certainly without a doubt they have left a crack in the door for their competitors...especially with win8 tablets coming out in the enterprise sector, the first instant an exec gets thier hands on one, and it has full blown office running and tight exchange integration...that will be game over for the iPad, and of story, regardless of price.

The Maps failure is just a silly, unnecessary, unwarranted risk.

I mean what could the harm in being in waiting 2 more years "till it just worked"?


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By Any14Tee on 9/26/2012 8:11:58 AM , Rating: 2
According to The Verge, they had another year left on the Google contract.
The decision to go Googleless is bizarre, they had a year to patch up and would have spared Apples blushes. Still, it makes great entertainment.


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By dark matter on 9/25/2012 2:42:35 PM , Rating: 5
Apple spent longer on designing it's new $30 cables than it did on maps.

Talk about wrong priorities.


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By msheredy on 9/25/12, Rating: 0
RE: Why not have a competitor?
By Shadowself on 9/25/2012 2:55:49 PM , Rating: 1
The issue is not that everyone expected Apple's iMaps to be equal to or better than Google Maps on day one.

Sane people expected it to have a few glitches. It has many more than a few glitches.

When someone switches from an old standby with years of development to a new program the expectation is that the 1.0 version is nearly as good as the old standby -- with the expectation that it will be equal to the old standby by version 1.1 or 1.2 then *significantly better* than the old standby by version 2.0.

This is not what has happened. At the moment it looks like Apple's iMaps won't be equal to Google Maps until *at least* version 2.0 -- and by then Google Maps will be better too!

Is iMaps a horrible app? No. But from the few minutes I played with it on a friend's iPhone (Yes, I have friends that have iPhones and I still call them friends.) it still has a long way to go.


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By Souka on 9/25/2012 3:13:15 PM , Rating: 2
So is Google going to put out a Google Map application in the App Store?

I'd think this would be important for Google right now.


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By elleehswon on 9/25/2012 3:20:36 PM , Rating: 2
Beta software is the new 1.0


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By geddarkstorm on 9/25/2012 3:23:50 PM , Rating: 2
They're just moving to EA's DLC model of software business :D


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By Belard on 9/25/2012 11:03:22 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah.... if AppleMaps 2.0 is 5 years into the future.

It took Google years to correct and enhance its map technology. Its also possible that Apple can end up being sued if ANY they violate patents - since they HIRED Google engineers, it makes it possible for that to happen(or not).

How long do you think it would take for Apple to do its own Street View?


RE: Why not have a competitor?
By Roffles on 9/25/2012 4:41:19 PM , Rating: 2
7-10 years ago, mapping applications for the consumer space in general were in their infancy and Google was one of the front runners. What does your comment have to do with iMaps in 2012? Is it not completely obviuos to you that Apple is 7 years late to the game and all they can do, while their customers wait retardedly and spitefully for something functional, is copy what others are doing? Hurrr, give them time and it will get better huurrrrrr. Nothing is worse than an apologetic consumer. In case you forgot, Apple is a corporate entity that has no feelings or emotions...it does not know or understand your pathetic allegiance towards it.


By StevoLincolnite on 9/25/2012 4:56:57 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
.it does not know or understand your pathetic allegiance towards it.


Like all companies, they understand when you whip out your cash and pay for it! - But it's like talking to an infant that only understands a single word unfortunately.


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