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Aircraft looks similar to the F-22 Raptor

A photograph of a second Chinese Stealth fighter has turned up online. It's worth warning, however, that Aviation Week reports faked photographs of Chinese aircraft are notorious. However, the same photograph turned up on some official Chinese publications giving weight to the fact that the photograph is genuine. 
 
We've already seen numerous photographs of another Chinese stealth fighter called the J-20, which has already flown. The new fighter aircraft seen in this photo is clearly different from the J-20. The J-20 has canards on the front, whereas this new aircraft does not.

 
Aviation Week reports that this Chinese aircraft, which looks suspiciously like a Lockheed F-22 Raptor, is a twin-engine single-seat fighter. The aircraft is said to be somewhat shallower in the body than the F-35, but shares a similar span of about 37.5 feet. The estimates on the aircraft size were gleaned from comparing it to the commercial aircraft vehicle towing it on the runway.
 
The aircraft is said to feature a large internal weapons bay and the wings appear to be swept less than 45° on the leading edge according to Aviation Week. The engines are believed to be Klimov RD-93s that were imported from Russia.
 
The new aircraft indicates that China is spending heavily on developing new stealth aircraft to replace its aging fighter jet fleet. The aircraft is thought to be a potential replacement for the Chengdu J-10 that entered service in 2006.

Source: Aviation Week



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What's so hard about copying?
By Mizerable on 9/19/2012 9:58:02 AM , Rating: 3
Every news source says "they totally hacked and stole the designs for the f-35 and f-22, that's why they look so similar"

but can't you copy the look of the f-22 and f-35 by just looking at photographs that are everywhere online ?....




RE: What's so hard about copying?
By hankw on 9/19/2012 10:01:39 AM , Rating: 5
Probably similar to the way Samsung must have "stolen" Apple's designs. (yes I went there)


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By V-Money on 9/19/2012 10:51:02 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
Probably similar to the way Samsung must have "stolen" Apple's designs. (yes I went there)


So you are saying that their fighter is superior to ours? ;-)


By Cypherdude1 on 9/22/2012 3:22:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Every news source says "they totally hacked and stole the designs for the f-35 and f-22, that's why they look so similar"

Yes, the Chinese government has employed hackers who have been able to hack into US government and private firm computers. Our government has been criminally negligent in computer security enforcement. I think they have been so incompetent, they simply don't want to admit it. Furthermore, don't forget the espionage side of it. The Chinese have also been buying schematics and materials compositions from paid informants. Every single time the USA creates a new technology, the Chinese don't have to do any research to match it. They simply steal it on the cheap.


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By Uncle on 9/19/12, Rating: 0
By imaheadcase on 9/19/2012 12:21:18 PM , Rating: 5
We don't have to do any of that, china does that internally enough so we don't have to.


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By MZperX on 9/19/2012 12:37:12 PM , Rating: 5
Wow, you seem to have issues man. Way to turn a discussion about a Chinese jet into an anti-American rant. Got a chip on your shoulder? Oh what the hell, just let the butthurt flow through you...


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By Uncle on 9/19/12, Rating: -1
By dark matter on 9/19/2012 1:17:40 PM , Rating: 2
He makes a valid point that you have yet to offer any alternative.


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By nocturne_81 on 9/21/2012 7:31:57 PM , Rating: 3
Actually, China has had a long harsh history of being cut up and subjugated by western influences, including the USA. It's pretty damn s####y what we've done to them, and they certainly have their reasons to hate us.


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By Ammohunt on 9/24/2012 2:12:23 PM , Rating: 1
You must be a product of modern revisionist history books because i am not aware of any instance where the united states "cut up" the Chinese. We helped liberate them from Japan in the 40ies only to fight off their communist aggression in Korea and later via a proxy war in Vietnam. They have been on the wrong side of freedom more often then not since Mao arrived and deserve all the criticism they have received.


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By FITCamaro on 9/19/12, Rating: -1
RE: What's so hard about copying?
By Azethoth on 9/19/2012 2:07:15 PM , Rating: 1
Sometimes you present as someone knowledgeable. But then sometimes you come up with things like this retarded conspiracy gem.

Hopefully you avoid sounding like an imbecile in a work environment.


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By Rhaido on 9/20/2012 1:07:17 PM , Rating: 2
I am not sure which is greater - your arrogance or your ignorance. I read this book over 10 years ago but I do remember John Huang had Top Secret clearance and received CIA briefings. It was extremely unusual for this type of clearance to be given to anyone in the Commerce Department.

http://www.amazon.com/Year-Rat-Clinton-Compromised...


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By michael67 on 9/20/2012 8:49:03 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
There is little doubt that either by direct theft or economic espionage

And so how is that different of what the US have bin doing, or do you think if the US can get some secret document on weapons design from BAE Systems (Europe's largest defense contractor), they would hesitate taking them if they think they can get away with it.

And its not like China is a allied nation of the US, why would they not get there hands on it if they can, as i would also have no problem steeling from some one that holds me responsible for all things that go wrong with the US economy, and is called by many politicians as enemy Nr2 after Nr1 Al Qaeda.

Espionage is as old as the time of the caveman, when tribe 2, watched tribe 1 how to make fire.

Every less developed nation (overall or on specific fields, including the US) has stolen tech from more developed nations, as everyone wants to be at equal terms with other nations.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northame...

Blaming others for something they done and do them self's can be called a little hypocritical, but that's just me.


By theapparition on 9/20/2012 12:13:32 PM , Rating: 2
You've obviously never been associated with anything regarding espionage.

But way to keep up the nonfactual information.


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By jmarchel on 9/19/2012 8:59:02 PM , Rating: 2
I thought US has stolen stealth technology from Horten brothers. You know, NAZIS.

JAM


By johnsmith9875 on 9/22/2012 1:02:51 AM , Rating: 2
Actually we got stealth legally from an obscure Russian mathematician that published an entire book about radar reflectivity. The Soviets didn't think much of the work, but we did.


By johnsmith9875 on 9/20/2012 3:04:19 AM , Rating: 2
Why not. China has fake Apple stores, fake IKEA stores, they're experts at copying stuff badly and selling it at a fraction of the price of the original.
Most satellite reception equipment made in China is a copy of either a Russian, Korean, or Japanese design and reboxed with hacked firmware. I've seen knockoff speed skates that look like American, Italian and Australian designs except they're 1/3 the price and inferior quality.

Nothing they do is original these days.


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By przemo_li on 9/22/2012 7:22:11 AM , Rating: 2
Aerodynamics are easy...

But putting insides of plane in right order and spot is hard.

Its like pushing row of bills by stick. Perfect alignment or no fun.


By MrBlastman on 9/24/2012 11:56:42 AM , Rating: 2
The engine exhaust nozzles are clearly inferior to the F-22's. They might be thrust vectored... but only barely and have a far higher RCS due to the design. They also have a much greater IR signature due to using an older design.


RE: What's so hard about copying?
By f148vr on 9/24/2012 11:12:30 AM , Rating: 2
I just hope the Chinese did not copy the oxygen generator design used in the F22.

I suspect aircraft design, much like the cars today, are beginning the look the same. While I'm sure some of these are intentional "copying", I suspect companies are converging on an optimal shape/profile. Furthermore, it is not uncommon for one company to emulate a feature done by another that seems to work as this is quite common in Formula 1. The bottom line is that anything goes when the objective is to get that competitive edge, this is especially important when nations are often judged by their military prowess.

As a NASCAR crew chief once said, "It's my job to cheat, and official's job to catch me."


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