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Ford bests Toyota in hybrid efficiency

Ford has announced that the official EPA fuel efficiency numbers are in for its new midsize 2013 Fusion Hybrid. The Fusion Hybrid is now the most fuel-efficient midsize sedan in the country with an EPA rating of 47 mpg in the city, 47 mpg on the highway, and 47 mpg combined.
Those numbers top the Toyota Camry Hybrid by eight mpg on the highway and 4 mpg in the city. Ford continues to utilize efficient gasoline engines, electric motors, and lithium-ion batteries to allow its hybrid vehicles to achieve the same fuel efficiency on the highway as they're able to achieve in the city.

The EPA numbers surpassed Ford's previous estimates.
“The new Fusion is part of our plan to offer vehicles with the very best quality, fuel efficiency, safety, smart design and value,” says Alan Mulally, Ford president and CEO. “We are absolutely committed to class-leading fuel efficiency as a reason to buy Ford vehicles, with customers able to choose the fuel-efficient powertrain that best fits their lifestyle.”

The 2013 Fusion Hybrid is capable of traveling up to 62 mph on electricity alone. The car also has Active Grill Shutters to make the car more aerodynamic at highway speeds to help improve fuel efficiency. The hybrid also has an underbody with an aerodynamically designed panel to help improve fuel efficiency even further.
“Fusion is a driver’s car,” said Raj Nair, group vice president of Product Development. “We have carefully tuned this car to reward the driving expert and flatter the novice.”

Ford will offer four different versions of the 2013 Fusion. The vehicle will be offered with a 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine rated for 29 mpg combined. A two-liter EcoBoost engine is available with 26 mpg combined. The 2.5-liter version of the vehicle is rated for 26 mpg combined. The plug-in hybrid version of the Fusion, called the Energi is rated for over 100 MPGe.

Source: Ford

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RE: And the cost ?
By Brandon Hill on 9/18/2012 9:11:04 AM , Rating: 3
Derp! What other midsize (nearly full-size) sedan do you know of that's available in the U.S. that gets anywhere close to that kind of mileage?

The midsize car that I currently drive has 274hp, but only get 22/33.

RE: And the cost ?
By GotDiesel on 9/18/12, Rating: -1
RE: And the cost ?
By Spuke on 9/18/2012 1:50:50 PM , Rating: 2
my 2001 is still giving close to 50 mpg..
What's the EPA rating on your 2001 so we can compare apples to apples?


RE: And the cost ?
By Masospaghetti on 9/18/2012 2:39:24 PM , Rating: 2
2001 Jetta TDI Automatic 29/40 mpg

18 MPG city difference.

Fusion: 1
GotDiesel: 0

RE: And the cost ?
By FITCamaro on 9/18/2012 4:04:23 PM , Rating: 3
And the manual?

Diesel mileage has absolutely gone down in the past 10 years thanks the sky high emissions standards.

RE: And the cost ?
By Spuke on 9/18/2012 5:04:01 PM , Rating: 2
35/44 for the manual. Substantial difference between it and the auto (4 speed auto apparently).

RE: And the cost ?
By Samus on 9/18/2012 8:23:41 PM , Rating: 2
diesel maintenance is about 4x as much as petrol engines:

-constant fuel treatment/specialized oil changes (most places don't service diesel engines, including Jiffy Lube)
-fuel filters every 20k
-timing belts every 50k (they say you can go 60k but why risk $3000 damage?)
-injectors every 60k
-turbo rebuilds every 100k
-exhaust system/catalysts every 100k
-diesel torque/heavy foot drivers will quickly burn out clutches in 60-70k

now lets look at drivability:

-terrible with automatic transmissions unless bi-turbo
-manual transmissions are equiped with dual-mass flywheels (pretty much no sportyness there and very slow revs)
-you run out of revs at 4000rpm
-fuel is hard to find, generally low quality and meant for truck engines, and almost always more expensive than petrol
-poor cold weather performance
-sometimes need engine block heater to start vehicle

and finally:

Diesel vehicles only widespread available from VW (not well known for their reliability in the United States) at a 30% premium over petrol counterparts.

However, I'll chime in, that IF I were considering a VW, I would get a diesel, but thats because I'm familiar with diesel engines, have a heated garage to park in, and have most of the specialized tools to maintain them. Others will end up spending thousands a year at a dealer for general maintenance.

RE: And the cost ?
By GotDiesel on 9/18/2012 8:43:52 PM , Rating: 1

I don't know what vehicle your talking about but it's not a jetta..

fuel filter every 100k miles.
timing belt every 100k miles
oil every 10k miles
injectors ? LOL.. i'm on the original set
turbo rebuild ? nope working just fine at 245k miles
catalyist.. nope still fine at 245k
clutch.. nope original
cold weather.. works just fine here in northern Colorado
run out of revs... don't need revs, have torque..
3000 rpm is about 85 mph.. what speed do you drive at ?
and finally.. reliable.. very.. the only problem I had since 2001 is 3 batteries.. in 11 years..

I think you are talking about a 1970's American diesel
not a modern diesel.. dude...

RE: And the cost ?
By Spuke on 9/19/2012 12:41:37 PM , Rating: 2
What car IS he talking about? My truck doesn't even require all that. Fuel filters and oil changes are the most common maintenance. Fuel injector maintenance? Never heard of it and it isn't on my schedule. Turbo rebuild? Never heard of that either, not on my schedule and I have over 100k on my truck. Catalyst? LOL!. Dude, you're just making stuff up. Granted diesel maintenance costs more than gas, I'll give you that but not near what you listed. Sorry.

RE: And the cost ?
By FITCamaro on 9/18/2012 4:03:03 PM , Rating: 2
We can thank the EPA for diesel mileage actually going DOWN in the past 10 years.

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