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Adapters won't come cheap

Apple's iPhone 5 was announced today, and with it came the realization of a smaller dock connector. The 30-pin dock connector has been around for 9 years, and Apple cites its desire for thinner, more svelte devices as the reason to go with the smaller "Lightning" connector.
 
However, those who have accumulated a wealth of 30-pin cables and accessories are going to have to fork over the big bucks to allow them to work with Apple's new Lightning connector. Apple is listing the Lightning to 30-pin adapter for $29 on its online store. Considering that you would need one adapter for each cable/accessory, things could get pricey pretty quickly.

 
New Lightning 8-pin USB cables aren't much cheaper at $19 each.
 
 
 
The best bet for those looking to make the switch is to wait for the cheap Chinese knock-offs to start flooding eBay (it's easy to find current 30-pin USB cables for $1 to $3 each).
 
The positive news is that once all of Apple's mobile devices are equipped with the new Lightning dock, you won't have to worry about the boys from Cupertino switching things up again anytime soon. “This is the new connector for many years to come,” said Apple Senior VP Phil Schiller in an interview with AllThingsD.

Sources: Apple [1], [2], AllThingsD



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RE: Ripoff Artists
By Tony Swash on 9/12/2012 8:06:37 PM , Rating: 0
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Make a completely unnecessary change to device connectivity so that we can sell overpriced adaptor cables to anyone who wants to keep using their accessories.". Nonsense like that is why I avoid Apple products like the plague.


Why visit a tech site if you get agitated by technical change?

The current connector for iDevices is nearly a decade old. That's a very long time in the world of technology. Apple drops old technology when it's usefulness passes and embraces the new. They have done that many times before and will do so many times in the future. Every time Apple drops a technology (anyone remember floppy disks?) the tech conservatives get all frothed up and a year later nobody remembers what the fuss was all about. Show anyone under 25 a floppy disk and they won't know what it is.

Phil Schiller was interviewed by allthingsd and he said it simply wasn’t possible to build products as thin as the new iPhones and iPods without changing the cord. Hence, the new “Lightning” connector.

That said, Schiller said that Apple doesn’t take changing the connector lightly.
“This is the new connector for many years to come,” he said.

By the way - do you own an Apple product that uses the old connector? If not why are even posting about this?


RE: Ripoff Artists
By rs2 on 9/12/2012 8:48:02 PM , Rating: 2
And who might you be? Apple PR?

I love technological advancement and change, which is why I visit tech sites. However this new "all digital" connector is not technological advancement. It doesn't even fall into the category of 'change for the sake of change'. Instead it's a frivolous and unnecessary change that was clearly made solely so that Apple can sell ridiculously overpriced adapter cables to people who already have iDevice accessories and want to continue using them. That's what I find agitating.

As for it "not being possible" to keep the previous form-factor, that is complete nonsense. Just because some high-level corporate figurehead says something doesn't make it true. You can review the evidence yourself; here's a side-by-side comparison of the iPhone 5 and the iPhone 4S:

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2012/09/iphone-5-vs-iph...

The iPhone 5 is not that much thinner, and it is clearly still more than thick enough to support the old-style connector. In fact, the new connector does not appear to be much thinner at all. It is narrower, certainly, but the thickness is almost unchanged.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By Tony Swash on 9/13/12, Rating: -1
RE: Ripoff Artists
By FITCamaro on 9/13/2012 8:10:04 AM , Rating: 2
Given that probably roughly half of users will buy at least one of these adapters? Yes. $30 * 5 million sales = $150 million in revenue. That's figuring 10 million sold which might happen in just the first few weeks alone.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By Tony Swash on 9/13/2012 12:20:59 PM , Rating: 1
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Given that probably roughly half of users will buy at least one of these adapters? Yes. $30 * 5 million sales = $150 million in revenue. That's figuring 10 million sold which might happen in just the first few weeks alone.


Apple earns $150 million revenue every six hours. For Apple it's peanuts. I repeat only a fool would think the primary reason for making this change was to make a few extra bucks. Hate Apple by all means but try not to let it undermine your intelligence or judgement, especially in public.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By jeffkro on 9/13/2012 12:45:18 PM , Rating: 2
Yup they make this level of income by trying to force customers to stay within the apple universe from multimedia to accessories, etc. Personally I prefer choice.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By Tony Swash on 9/13/2012 1:03:47 PM , Rating: 2
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Yup they make this level of income by trying to force customers to stay within the apple universe from multimedia to accessories, etc. Personally I prefer choice.


Apple doesn't force it's customers to do anything, they flock to Apple with huge enthusiasm because they love Apple's products. Hard for you to swallow I know but still true. Apple's products may not be the right ones for you but to try to pretend that they are not genuinely hugely popular is just being deliberately obtuse.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By jimbojimbo on 9/14/2012 12:45:35 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, and people also watch Jersey Shore. I don't understand any of it really.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By Mitch101 on 9/14/2012 6:54:03 PM , Rating: 2
Adapter Turns iPod Speaker Docks into Wireless Bluetooth Speakers
http://craziestgadgets.com/2012/06/21/adapter-turn...

Break the iMonopoly and use any bluetooth phone (Android, Blackberry, Windows) or device (iPad, computer) with any iPod dock. The Bluewave Bluetooth Audio Receiver connects directly to any 30-pin iPhone speaker accessory and pairs wirelessly with your Bluetooth device.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By mindless1 on 9/13/2012 1:20:59 PM , Rating: 2
They may not have made the change to make a few extra bucks but they probably did change it to another proprietary connector instead of a standardized one to make a few extra bucks. The world already had a sufficient variety of connectors to choose from.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By mindless1 on 9/13/2012 1:18:19 PM , Rating: 2
From a mechanical strength and current carrying perspective I don't like it when connectors are shrunk. For example I find use of microUSB ridiculous when it only saves 2mm over miniUSB.

On the other hand while the phone itself isn't much thinner, the connector obviously is leaving room for something else above or below it, as well as being narrower which leaves more space for other electronics, heatsinking, or even a good ole air gap for better ventilation so it heats up less than it otherwise would. However, I wrote it isn't much thinner but what if the 18% shrink from 9.3mm to 7.6mm was directly attributable to the connector thickness reduction?

Given apple's desire to make this as thin and light as possible given the specs it has, I'm sure they took pains to make everything as small as they can do so (hopefully) without sacrificing reliability. The old connector seemed ridiculous anyway but what I'd have liked to see instead is a miniUSB3 connector. Not that it really matters to me, I don't own an iPhone and have no plans to in the future but I don't like the trend of using proprietary connectors at all. The whole point of standards was to relieve us of this issue.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By room200 on 9/13/12, Rating: 0
RE: Ripoff Artists
By jRaskell on 9/14/2012 11:37:51 AM , Rating: 1
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The current connector for iDevices is nearly a decade old. That's a very long time in the world of technology. Apple drops old technology when it's usefulness passes and embraces the new. They have done that many times before and will do so many times in the future.


Let's be clear about the definition of usefulness though. The only usefulness Apple truly cares about is the kind that supplements their bank account.

If Apple truly prioritized the good of their customer, then they would be using non-proprietary connectors for all their devices. The only benefit Lightning offers over the various open standard connectors available is the sales and licensing agreements it brings to Apples wallet. Ditto for their previous connector.


RE: Ripoff Artists
By chris2618 on 9/14/2012 5:41:33 PM , Rating: 1
"drops old technology when it's usefulness passes"

You mean like the new MacBook with no ethernet, firewire, VGA, microphone jack and no optical drive. Yeah i do understand you can buy adapters but that does seem to be Apples new phrase;

"There's an adapter for that."


RE: Ripoff Artists
By christojojo on 9/14/2012 5:59:55 PM , Rating: 1
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Apple drops old technology when it's usefulness passes and embraces the new.


The technology that comes to mind that Apple failed to embrace are the SD slots on Ipod/phones and The Blu-ray. Which they force you to buy an external (cumbersome) add-on device instead of being built in.

Apple inc is about control and convincing those that buy into it that it is the best.

Sometimes their products are nice to use (my Ipod Touch) others are over priced and or over rated. The operating system OSx, and most Macs. (My opinion.


"I mean, if you wanna break down someone's door, why don't you start with AT&T, for God sakes? They make your amazing phone unusable as a phone!" -- Jon Stewart on Apple and the iPhone














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