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No Jelly Bean for you means $100 credit

If you happen to be the not-so-happy owner of a Motorola phone from 2011 that won't be getting the Jelly Bean update, Motorola is trying to make things a little better for you. Motorola has promised that if you own one of its 2011 model smartphones that won't be upgraded to Jelly Bean, it will give you $100 back towards a new Motorola smartphone.
 
Naturally, most brand new Motorola smartphones will cost you more than $100 so you're going to have to bring some money to the table.
 
Motorola has already opened the website where you can get your $100 trade-in credit. The C-note will be giving to you via any method Motorola chooses and can be in the form of a gift card, carrier credit, or another method. Presumably, the credit will come after you make your purchase and Motorola gets you trade-in.
 
Motorola says the reason some of its 2011-era devices won't be upgraded to 4.1 is that they're unable to run the operating system satisfactorily.

Source: PhoneArena


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Insanity continues
By bug77 on 9/7/12, Rating: 0
RE: Insanity continues
By retrospooty on 9/7/2012 10:41:26 AM , Rating: 4
"What kind of signal does this send into the market"

It says for most phones in 2011, we will be doing an OS upgrade to Jelly Bean. For the few that arent, we will give you a $100 credit.


RE: Insanity continues
By geddarkstorm on 9/7/2012 11:24:03 AM , Rating: 2
Interestingly enough, ROMers have ported Jellybean 4.1 to the original Motorola Droid. And it actually fully works, not even slow once it settles. And heck, they don't even have access to the best possible drivers. For any phone lower brow than the OG Droid, probably would run into not having enough memory to handle the Jellies at even that marginal level.


RE: Insanity continues
By retrospooty on 9/7/2012 11:27:25 AM , Rating: 2
It's really tough getting Android 4 or higher to run on 512mb ram. They did it, but it's totally stripped down. Not a carrier approvable level ROM.


RE: Insanity continues
By bug77 on 9/7/2012 3:52:44 PM , Rating: 2
HTC has no problem with that. Both Desire C and V have ICS running on 512MB RAM with the memory hog aka Sense on top.


RE: Insanity continues
By Solandri on 9/7/2012 4:06:50 PM , Rating: 2
They must've highly optimized it to run on limited RAM. I'm running CyanogenMod 9 (ICS) on my 512 MB Galaxy S. It's amazing, smooth, and fast with a fresh install. But install a couple dozen apps and it bogs down. All the signs point to lack of memory - most of the system apps report only about 30-40 MB free, indicating it's shutting down old apps to free up memory every time I start a new one.

I wish phones came with upgradeable RAM like laptops...


RE: Insanity continues
By retrospooty on 9/7/2012 5:32:52 PM , Rating: 2
Same here with my old Droid3. Per Cyanogenmod developers, its doable, just not worth doing because of the limitations. Some devices will also work better than others based on drivers.


RE: Insanity continues
By bug77 on 9/8/2012 6:28:24 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, well, installing dozens of apps on a phone will obviously gobble up memory quickly. But it hardly has anything to do with the ability of ICS to run on 512MB RAM.


RE: Insanity continues
By Fritzr on 9/10/2012 6:06:22 AM , Rating: 2
It obviously has something to do with running ICS+ dozens of apps with a lesser amount of RAM.

Your computer would also be much more efficient if you removed all the programs & services that run in the background. Of course that would mean that all the things they do would disappear.

When performance is evaluated, it should be done under realistic conditions rather than PR friendly conditions.

In addition to not providing updates for phones that will not give a good customer experience with the update, Motorola is also driving sales numbers ... have a low end Moto? Trade it in and Moto gets to count a new phone sale when they next announce sales volume.

Win for the customer -- Decent performance
Win for Motorola -- Enhanced sales numbers


RE: Insanity continues
By TakinYourPoints on 9/8/2012 4:41:56 PM , Rating: 2
"Few" is being charitable. The percentage of phones running JB or ICS is still under 10%, despite the fact that a much larger number of devices is totally capable of running those operating systems.

OEMs and carriers really should do the right thing and support their devices properly. If Apple did something like this, MAN the pitchforks would be out here.


RE: Insanity continues
By bug77 on 9/8/2012 5:43:22 PM , Rating: 2
Well, the percentage is actually over 20% (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_...
But it's still appalling considering ICS is out for almost a year. The fact that no manufacturer bothers with timely updates, pushing customers to buy new phones instead has "collusion" written all over it. Yet no one will take action :-(


RE: Insanity continues
By Fritzr on 9/10/2012 6:09:35 AM , Rating: 2
You are right. Apple does not offer a Trade In credit when they tell unhappy users that they need to purchase a new Apple Mac computer if they wish to take advantage of the new OS release.

They do retire older models as they add features or performance requirements that do not allow those older machines to offer the proper Apple Experience(tm)


RE: Insanity continues
By TakinYourPoints on 9/10/2012 5:28:28 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, shame on Apple for dropping PowerPC support after five years, how horrible!


RE: Insanity continues
By Uncle on 9/7/2012 9:47:01 PM , Rating: 2
"What kind of signal does this send into the market". That these companies are making one hell of a profit, and like apple are manipulating the market place, as I've said before their playing the phone market like the stock market and the buy back offers of their stock to keep the shares higher. apple with over one billion in cash can buy back all the phones it wants to artificially keep their new and old phones at a higher price then letting the market place decide. To all those that thought they would get a good deal on a used apple phone, ain't going to happen. This is capitalism at its best.


Who buys a phone?
By ballist1x on 9/7/2012 11:04:18 AM , Rating: 2
Most people will get them via contract anyway, at least they do in the UK...

so being able to trade it in will mean nothing to most people as they either dont pay for their handset or wont pay £600 for a new one just on the back of a $100 credit.




RE: Who buys a phone?
By retrospooty on 9/7/2012 11:14:49 AM , Rating: 2
In the US, for the most part there are 3 tiers. The "free" phone , free with 2 year contract, the $99 and the $199 with 2 year contracts. There are a few more expensive, but those are usually the 32mb versions, or some other upgrade of a high end.

So... This turns the $99 midrange models into a free phone. Not bad for simply not getting Jelly Bean. Most of us upgrade every 18 months anyhow.


RE: Who buys a phone?
By bug77 on 9/8/2012 6:31:51 AM , Rating: 2
I hate to break it to you, but you still pay for a "free" phone on a contract.
I, for one, choose to pay for the phone, just to avoid carrier crap and delayed updates. I'm in the minority, I know, but I'm sure I'm not alone.


RE: Who buys a phone?
By notposting on 9/8/2012 8:15:04 AM , Rating: 2
But here in the US, the only carrier to offer any sort of discount on a BYOD basis is T-Mobile, if you are on VZW, AT&T or Sprint it gives you no benefit to do so.

If you buy an international global roaming version for use on AT&T it *might* benefit you in regards to updates, but the pricing won't help you at all.


RE: Who buys a phone?
By fic2 on 9/10/2012 12:59:23 PM , Rating: 2
You can go with one of the 2nd tier phone service providers that just resell the 1st tier service but on a monthly basis.

I know that Sprint bought Virgin but Virgin is still a month-to-month service. Although most of their phones are pretty crappy.

I am looking at changing over to month-to-month since it would be way cheaper.


awesome~!
By xti on 9/7/2012 9:29:50 AM , Rating: 2
dozens of people are now happy.




Atrix 4G
By Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer on 9/7/2012 12:27:34 PM , Rating: 2
I'm guessing my Atrix 4G, released early in 2011, won't get an upgrade...though I don't know why I have to sign up with Motorola to find out. Just post it on the site.

Still, it would be nice to get the $100 rebate if I were to decide to go Android again.




Well, I bought it in 2011...
By ET on 9/9/2012 9:41:13 AM , Rating: 2
My DEFY is so stuck in 2010.




My Awful Droid X
By MaulBall789 on 9/10/2012 12:01:06 PM , Rating: 2
No, I have a very special death planned for my Droid X. Won't be trading it in for another Motorola, not this time. A very cathartic experience awaits.




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