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Samsung score a victory over Apple

Samsung has had a pretty rough couple of week following its loss to Apple in a California district court. Samsung was found guilty of infringing on various Apple design patents and was ordered to pay $1.05 billion in damages. To add insult to injury, Apple is looking to add the flagship Galaxy S III to the banned list in the U.S.
 
Even with all of that bad news swirling around Samsung, the South Korean company can at least take solace in the fact that its Galaxy S III has knocked the Apple iPhone 4S off its perch as the best-selling smartphone in America.


Samsung Galaxy S III
 
"We believe this is the first month since the iPhone 4S launched in October 2011 that it was not the top-selling smartphone in the U.S. market," said Canaccord Genuity analyst T. Michael Walkley.
 
However, Samsung's victory over Apple may be short-lived. Apple has officially confirmed a September 12 press event to announce the next generation iPhone. Sales will likely start towards the end of September.

Source: CNET



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By retrospooty on 9/4/2012 2:13:40 PM , Rating: 2
Yup... Looking at a 4 inch 4G iPhone 5 with IOS6 compared with the Galaxy S3, the iPhone is already lacking. Fast forward 3 months and we will have a new generation of even better Android devices and the iPhone 5 will still have another 9-12 months to go in its lifecycle. Next year looks like a game changing year.


By JasonMick (blog) on 9/4/2012 2:48:44 PM , Rating: 1
And that's not to mention Windows Phone 8, which is looking gorgeous:

http://www.dailytech.com/Quick+Note+43+Nokia+Lumia...
http://www.dailytech.com/Samsung+Announces+48+Alum...
http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Announces+Windo...

Whatever chunk of Android market share Apple manages to knock off with bans will likely be gobbled up by Windows Phone 8.

In my opinion iOS is simple and it works, but in terms of UI navigation speed, features, and graphical gloss iOS has fallen well behind both Windows Phone 8 and Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. Apple appears to have no real plan to catch up -- it seems content purely to rest on its laurels, profit take, and try to ban the fresher competition.

What Apple doesn't realize is that if it does somehow manage to kill Android sales with bans, customers aren't going to pick an inferior product, visually dated product (an iPhone). They're going to (by and large) pick Windows Phone.

As much as Reclaimer and I disagree about Windows Phone, I'm pretty sure if his choices were a Samsung Windows Phone 8 or an iPhone, he'd pick the Windows Phone. :)


By retrospooty on 9/4/2012 2:56:24 PM , Rating: 2
Yup. I cant wait to try WP8 out, it looks pretty slick. After playing with IOS6 and Android 4.1, I cant help but feel like IOS6 is just... old. Nothing intersting to offer.


By corduroygt on 9/4/2012 2:48:42 PM , Rating: 2
Please explain how iOS has fallen WELL behind in graphical gloss over WP8 and Android 4? WP8 has the simplistic single color icons and Android 4 icon graphics are similar to Apple's.

Android 4 definitely does not scroll any smoother than iOS, iOS is still a tad bit better in that regard.

Also LOL at WP8 being a better product than iphone or android. You need apps for that.


By Jeffk464 on 9/4/2012 2:57:20 PM , Rating: 2
WP8 needs some success to be successful. :) Chicken and egg theory. Its starting to look extremely promising though.


By JasonMick (blog) on 9/4/2012 3:29:43 PM , Rating: 3
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WP8 has the simplistic single color icons and Android 4 icon graphics are similar to Apple's.
Windows 8 has two-color stylized icons, yes, which are visually striking. But sure, some may prefer iOS's jewel/chiclet-style icons.

But my point is that Windows Phone offers other perks -- animated live tiles (not just bland animations like the little notifications numbers in iOS, mind you), varying tile sizes (so as to accommodate fancier animations), more pinning options, and scrolling dynamic font art.

All of these things are available in Android to some extent -- much of it via well configured widgets.

They are absent in iOS 6. That is what I mean.
quote:
Android 4 definitely does not scroll any smoother than iOS, iOS is still a tad bit better in that regard.
Have you used Jelly Bean v. iOS 6 on an iPhone 4S?

I doubt it. Both Windows Phone and Android have improved their scrolling substantially -- to the point where I would argue it's better than Apple's (though it's somewhat of a subjective debate).

I would say WP7.5 and Jelly Bean beat out anything Apple has shown to date in terms of smooth scrolling.
quote:
Also LOL at WP8 being a better product than iphone or android. You need apps for that.
How many?

Windows Phone has over 100,000...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/20/3098744/windows-...

Or wait, do we really need 38 clones of Angry Birds instead of 6?


By corduroygt on 9/4/2012 4:48:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
animated live tiles (not just bland animations like the little notifications numbers in iOS, mind you), varying tile sizes (so as to accommodate fancier animations), more pinning options, and scrolling dynamic font art.

If this was your main point, I agree. But your original post said graphics, which I found baffling.

quote:
Have you used Jelly Bean v. iOS 6 on an iPhone 4S?

I do not use Beta OS's. iOS5 on an iphone 4S is smooth as butter, especially when scrolling down pages in the browser. I use Android 4.0.4 and the web browser is neither as smooth nor the fonts look as good. Can't comment on Windows Phone.

quote:
Windows Phone has over 100,000...

And iOS/Android are closing in on a 1 million?

The number of apps is irrelevant, but not getting the latest cool app that all your friends are using, or getting it 12 months later, is a purchasing consideration.


By retrospooty on 9/4/2012 5:08:45 PM , Rating: 2
"I use Android 4.0.4 and the web browser is neither as smooth"

So, in other words, no, you have not used the latest version that addressed that issue and is also known to have surpassed Apple.


By corduroygt on 9/4/2012 6:59:35 PM , Rating: 2
Galaxy S3 does not have 4.1 yet, so it's a moot point. It's not an official OS yet just like iOS6.

And "known to have surpassed Apple" LOL.


By retrospooty on 9/4/2012 9:20:13 PM , Rating: 2
OK, Jelly Bean on the Galaxy Nexus with the old 1.2ghz TI OMAP CPU is faster than the iPhone 4s with OS5 and with OS6 beta. There are videos all over you tube comparing the two. Go see for yourself or just STFU.


By corduroygt on 9/4/2012 11:37:24 PM , Rating: 2
It is NOT faster, but finally it stopped skipping when scrolling through browser pages it seems. So it just caught up with the iPhone...after 5 years I guess that's an accomplishment


By retrospooty on 9/5/2012 8:23:54 AM , Rating: 2
You could say the same thing about the 4 inch screen and 4G on the iPhone 5 now Apple is catching up. It is what it is, so lets not pretend it isnt.


By TakinYourPoints on 9/4/2012 9:53:41 PM , Rating: 2
Complaining about graphics is baffling, especially considering that the iPhone still has the best mobile GPU on the market, not to mention developers that actually take advantage of it.

Either way, UI complaints are grasping at straws. Many are happy with Windows XP, the thing that matters is application support. iOS is perfectly fine UI-wise, but its developer support puts it way over the top. If you want to tinker with your UI though, awesome, there are other choices for sure.

WP7/8 has an amazing UI, probably my favorite, but sadly I won't consider it until it gets better hardware and more developers.


By retrospooty on 9/4/2012 10:13:36 PM , Rating: 3
"the thing that matters is application support"

LOL, that is pretty amazing. The one most important thing just happens to be the one thing Apple has an advantage in. Wow, what a stroke of luck.

I guess those of us with the following things are just missing out on the great apps on IOS ;)

- Larger Screens
- Higher resolution screens
- Faster CPU
- 4G
- Better battery life (while powering larger screens)
- Better OS
- Better UI
- Prettier OS
- Faster Voice search (with more features to boot)
- Flexibility in OS (Tons of Custom ROM's, etc)
- Flexibility in hardware (qwerty models, removable batteries, larger models, smaller models, high end models, mid range models, cheap models)
- Micro SD card
- Micro USB
- Plug and play as a flash drive to copy files

That is a long list of advantages, but hey, apps are the most important thing right?


By Belard on 9/5/2012 5:18:34 AM , Rating: 2
Unless you have an iPhon5-new-whatever... your list is speculative.

Larger screen? Its longer, not larger. Not larger than most Android phones.

Higher resolution? Nope... just longer.

Faster CPU, should be, its new.

Better OS? Hard to judge. More opinion than fact.

Better looking UI? iOS hasn't changed in 5+ years. Its fine, it works... and is IS starting to look dated. But its also its selling point.

Much of your list is... blah.

The iPhone 5 will sell very well... that is for sure.


By retrospooty on 9/5/2012 8:21:55 AM , Rating: 2
I was sarcastically showing Androids advantages over the iPhone... That list is Android, not iPhone5.


By Belard on 9/5/2012 5:15:18 AM , Rating: 2
Download Launcher7 (google play store) - it even does things WP7/8 cannot do... rotate tiles to match orientation of the phone. User option to color individual tiles. My tiles are blue, but my CALL one is green.

Its free... its very nice.

So, I'm not buying a WP7 or WP8 device. Also with the HD resolution screen... the bland colors of WP7/8 is not going to cut it.


By Jeffk464 on 9/4/2012 2:49:52 PM , Rating: 2
Yup, Samsung is making the first impressively specd windows phone yet. Next year might see MS start to grab market share if the samsung phone is any indication. So apple wont just be fighting a strong android market but maybe a gaining windows phone market. Wouldn't be overly surprising to me if in a few years the market will see adroid #1, wp8 #2, and iOS #3.


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