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ATIV S could be unveiled at IFA 2012

Samsung may still be in shock over its $1.05B loss to Apple in a U.S. court, but that isn't stopping the company with moving forward with fresh new products. Microsoft's Windows Phone mobile operating system has been treading water in the smartphone space for well over a year, but Samsung is hoping to liven things up with a sleek, fresh entry to the fray.
 
The Samsung ATIV S features an 8.7mm brushed aluminum chassis and will come packing a 4.8" HD Super AMOLED screen, 1.5GHz dual-core processor, and an 8MP rear camera. For those that actually bother using the front-facing camera, that unit dials in at 1.9MP.


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There will be both 16GB and 32GB models made available to the public, and a microSD slot will also be included if you choose to expand storage on your own. A generous 2300mAh battery is included to ensure that you have enough juice to last through the day.
 
You can check out more pictures and thoughts on the Samsung ATIV S on the Windows Phone Blog.


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The launch date for Windows Phone 8 will likely be announced next week.

Sources: The Verge, Windows Phone Blog


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By gglenn on 8/29/2012 1:02:34 PM , Rating: 5
Isn't that still the now illegal rectangle-with-rounded-corners form factor?




RE: But
By Manch on 8/29/2012 1:16:38 PM , Rating: 5
It is, but that Windows 8 logo is like a DMZ sign. Apple wont dare to cross that.


RE: But
By DanNeely on 8/29/2012 1:36:51 PM , Rating: 3
... because MS and Apple have a cross licensing deal on mobile patents.


RE: But
By BifurcatedBoat on 8/29/2012 6:31:03 PM , Rating: 5
Because MS is actually much closer to an inventor of the smartphone than Apple, and has plenty of patents related to them, so if MS is interested in making any form of smartphone, Apple has little choice but to let them.

MS began their original OS project for mobile devices (forerunner to Windows CE) in 1990. Most people didn't use them, but there were non-touchscreen Windows-based smartphones available since 2000. My first smartphone was a candybar-style Windows phone that I bought after losing my dumbphone and all of the contacts I had with it.

The major upside for me at that time was being able to sync contacts to my PC, which theoretically would prevent that from happening again.


RE: But
By MadMan007 on 8/29/2012 1:35:27 PM , Rating: 1
I KNOW RIGHT? I ALMOST CONFUSED IT WITH AN IPHONE UNTIL I LOOKED FOR MORE THAN 27 MILLISECONDS AND SAW "SAMSUNG" RIGHT AT THE TOP CENTER OF THE FACE!


RE: But
By Belard on 8/29/2012 1:45:26 PM , Rating: 2
You better check with your monitor display or even your TV set, its rectangle with curved corners too. So Apple may SUE you as well.


RE: But
By Captain Awesome on 8/29/2012 1:55:41 PM , Rating: 2
Uh oh, my HP monitor is in violation of their patent. :O


RE: But
By Manch on 8/29/2012 2:58:54 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I think Apple is on a roll. I think they're currently trying to take down stone henge, and they are also suing MGM over the use of rectangles in 2001 & 2010. Cease and desist letters have been sent to Lego, their affiliated theme parks and Duplo as well. Lastly they are lobbying teachers unions to make sure kindergardners are only drawing rectangles with sharp edges. If there lobbying efforts pan out, you will no longer be able to buy finished wood planks or panels as there rounded corners may create confusion. Oh, and if you only take one bite of your apple, and an Apple security guard sees it, they may confiscate it since those will be contraband as well.


RE: But
By Belard on 8/29/2012 3:00:57 PM , Rating: 2
They'd also have to sue MGM for making 2001 showing the Astronauts using... *gasp* tablets to watch TV while eating dinner.


RE: But
By Tony Swash on 8/29/12, Rating: -1
RE: But
By StevoLincolnite on 8/29/2012 3:02:52 PM , Rating: 3
In the end the lawsuit may be the best thing for Microsoft, less of a good thing for Google.

Samsung may see it as a way to protect itself against Apple and it's bans, lawsuits, crusades to remove Android et all by adopting Windows 8 across the board.


RE: But
By NellyFromMA on 8/29/2012 3:06:41 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, you don't sound smug AT ALL! So, arranging icons in rows and columns is patented. Wow, thank you for clearing that up, we must ALL feel SO stupid knowing we thought it was about rounded corners!

Arranging rows and columns of icons is clearly PROPRIETARY BUSINESS. What was your point again?


RE: But
By MadMan007 on 8/29/2012 3:17:14 PM , Rating: 2
It's an incredibly visionary invention because they did it ON A SMARTPHONE!!


RE: But
By TakinYourPoints on 8/29/2012 3:08:55 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, Apple actually lost on the "rounded rectangles" thing and lost with the Galaxy Tab (the latter surprised me), but people are gonna keep making the same herp derp points that they are "illegal" because Apple says so


RE: But
By zephyrprime on 8/29/2012 5:38:11 PM , Rating: 2
http://techpinions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/...

Apple won the rounded rectangles patent for the Samsung S and Vibrant.


RE: But
By RufusM on 8/29/2012 3:42:25 PM , Rating: 2
Well that makes so much more sense. Of course an icon layout of icons in a grid with static icons below should obviously be patentable. /s

Wait, everyone and their dog did that before Apple.

<Two handed facepalm>


RE: But
By nocturne_81 on 8/30/2012 5:28:00 PM , Rating: 1
Really, this has nothing to do with patents.. it's just a legal means to prove the obvious -- the first Galaxy S series, while maybe not an entire 'knock-off', were obviously designed to mimic the iPhone in order to feed off of it's success. While the phone itself didn't exactly mimic the design and functionality, it intentionally took the same approach as Apple -- simplicity being the key.

The actual patent arguments are ridiculous -- and do indeed signify the many faults of our patent system. I'll admit, Apple was perhaps the first to adopt these obvious designs into a majorly successful commercial product, but they were in no way 'original'. The rectangle argument is ridiculous -- should be thrown out by any court the moment either side tries to bring it up. The 'bounce' animation..? I've seen this in dozens of apps ranging back many years, but first in content rich flash sites back in the early 00's (I actually have a photo gallery I made in flash back in '01 featuring the same 'animation', an idea I admittedly stole after seeing it in many other projects at the time). And the icon layout.. I was part of a project back in '00 or so that ported WinMobile to Casio's extremely cheap BE300 PDA. The cheap touchscreen never worked too well with the start menu and the list format was already the major downside of the default UI; so what did we do..? We created a grid-based icon layout, displaying 5 rows of 3 icons representing installed apps, listed on consecutive pages. I'd like to say we were revolutionaries.. but that'd be ridiculous -- we were admittedly mimicking palm's current implementation (though a bit more elegantly), which was based on the basic idea of displaying icons on a grid that computer ui designers have been doing for nearly 3 decades.

Was the Galaxy S series meant as a knock-off..? I honestly can't see how.. Did Samsung pour over every feature causing the success of the iPhone, intentionally seeking to implement them into their own phones to try to pander to the market that Apple could be credited as creating..? Obviously so (should say, I have two Samsung feature phones right here that are guilty of violating all the mentioned patents -- but lacking android, have not been named in any suit). Is the simple philosophy of embracing the utmost simplicity in designing a product patentable..? I personally think not, otherwise whoever coined the term K.I.S.S. would be suing any successful manufacturer into oblivion..


RE: But
By Jeffk464 on 8/29/2012 4:07:39 PM , Rating: 2
It doesn't say what the dual core processor is but this is the first Windows Phone that looks interesting. Who knows they might actually compete.


RE: But
By Jeffk464 on 8/29/2012 4:10:24 PM , Rating: 2
Of course its not a true contender until it has been rooted or jail broken, not sure about windows phone for this.


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