Source: Motor Trend
quote: Plus you get radiated by the prius, or molested by the TSA everytime you fly
quote: No thanks. I'll drive a regualr car even if it cost me twice as much.
quote: because all cars now do everything, right.
quote: There is a long waiting list to pick up the testla. This thing is no nissan Leaf.
quote: Agree, I don't care that its electric, but charging times are a big issue. As nice as this car is it is still only able to be used as a commuter car. Sides the range they got was with the AC off. How much more range will be lost with the AC on?
quote: Your commute must really suck ass if 200 mile range won't cut it. I'm sure the actual numbers are closer to 150 - 180 miles but even that, how long is your commute man?
quote: Sure it does, and it does so by making your "problem" irrelevant.
quote: It also sounds like both you and Spuke would prefer to own the battery in an electric car and deal with that set of problems.
quote: Nope! I would prefer to own a car that meets my needs
quote: Why would I pay, in full, for a battery pack I don't even own then turn around and pay again to rent it?
quote: "Either way this is not an everyday car for everyday drivers its an elite upper crust type car excluding 99% of consumers." And the price sets that way.
quote: This car isn't made for going on long trips.
quote: Speaking of the Volt - 1,849 units were sold in July (~22,200 annual volume). I thought there was no demand for the Volt? Let me guess, they were all government orders, right?
quote: It requires more energy to get something moving than to keep it moving.
quote: And the idea that less than 2k units sold monthly in this country is somehow good...uhhh, right.
quote: This ignores regenerative braking, which if used properly, captures between 50%-75% of the kinetic energy, 75% being the upper limit for the Volt.
quote: Of that about 5% is actually converted into electricity for the vehicle. Regenerative braking is nice, but not very efficient. Certainly not enough to make up for cruising vs stop and go driving.
quote: This debate is stupid. You are WRONG!
quote: I know you love to compare the Volt to $15,000 subcompacts and $25,000 standard hybrids.
quote: Most hybrids have a higher city MPG rating than highway MPG rating.
quote: The Tesla is an outlier and I provided a perfectly reasonable explanation of why the numbers exist the way they do, which you haven't addressed at all.
quote: ...like all vehicles, it gets better efficiency highway driving.
quote: The Model S get's 88MPGe in the city, and 90MPGe on the HIGHWAY!!
quote: Again, YOU ARE WRONG
quote: Are you going to stfu and just admit you're wrong?
quote: Motor trend tested at 67 MPH which has much more drag. Had Motor Trend done lower speed and local driving their range would have been increased.
quote: We are not idling the plant due to poor Volt sales. We're gearing up for production of the new Impala
quote: How often do you ever drive more than 200 miles in a single day?