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Want to guess which company is breaking out the champagne tonight?

The jury reached a verdict today and they found Samsung guilty on multiple counts of infringing upon Apple design and software patents. While Apple was able to hold Samsung's feet to the fire on the majority of its utility patents, Samsung received no love from the jurors on its countersuit claims.
 
The jury ordered Samsung to pay Apple $1,051,855,000 USD ($1.05B USD) in damages. Apple owes Samsung absolutely nothing.
 

Apple CEO Tim Cook [Image Source: Paul Sakuma, Associated Press]

Not surprisingly, both Apple and Samsung have issued statements to the New York Times regarding the decision. First up, Apple:
 
We are grateful to the jury for their service and for investing the time to listen to our story and we were thrilled to be able to finally tell it. The mountain of evidence presented during the trail showed that Samsung’s copying went far deeper than even we knew. The lawsuits between Apple and Samsung were about much more than patents or money. They were about values. At Apple, we value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. We make these products to delight our customers, not for our competitors to flagrantly copy. We applaud the court for finding Samsung’s behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn’t right.
 
And now we have Samsung, which is clearly not pleased with the outcome of this case:
 
Today’s verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple’s claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer.
 
And even though Microsoft had absolutely nothing to do with this trial (Microsoft can safely sit on the sidelines as a spectator), Bill Cox, senior director of Marketing Communications for Windows Phone, added his two cents in on the decision:
 

Considering Microsoft’s current position in the smartphone marketplace, we’re not quite sure it's “winning” in this case.


Updated 8/25/2012 @ 2:53am EST
9to5Mac has received an internal memo sent to Apple employees by Apple CEO Tim Cook. In the memo, which features similar wording to the statement issued by Apple after the ruling, Cook describes how taking Samsung to court wasn't about the "patents or money":

Today was an important day for Apple and for innovators everywhere.
 
Many of you have been closely following the trial against Samsung in San Jose for the past few weeks. We chose legal action very reluctantly and only after repeatedly asking Samsung to stop copying our work. For us this lawsuit has always been about something much more important than patents or money. It’s about values. We value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. And we do this to delight our customers, not for competitors to flagrantly copy.
 
We owe a debt of gratitude to the jury who invested their time in listening to our story. We were thrilled to finally have the opportunity to tell it. The mountain of evidence presented during the trial showed that Samsung’s copying went far deeper than we knew.
 
The jury has now spoken. We applaud them for finding Samsung’s behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn’t right.
 
I am very proud of the work that each of you do.
 
Today, values have won and I hope the whole world listens.
 
Tim

Sources: The New York Times, Twitter



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No surprise MS is happy about it
By Pirks on 8/24/2012 9:54:23 PM , Rating: -1
Like I said here a couple of days ago, Ballmer is readying his big and hard WP8 to penetrate the market from behind... while Apple is helping him by banning a major WP8 competitor - Android on Samsung hardware. Now WP8 will have less competition from Android high end which will help sales for sure.

Too bad WP8 won't have any decent hardware like Galaxy Note on the launch, only some Nokia small screen stuff... not good enough for me though. But after Samsung is banned I think WP8 may see some decent sales, definitely better than WP7 which was a joke (except for its world class Apple-pwning UI of course).




RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By Iketh on 8/24/2012 10:16:44 PM , Rating: 2
There will be plenty of Win8 hardware Oct 26th... get a tablet to supplement. Keep your phone a phone.

I honestly can't figure out yet if I'll take that route myself or prefer a "phablet"...


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By Jeffk464 on 8/25/2012 9:56:20 AM , Rating: 2
I love my phablet, its always on me. A tablet is something that you use sitting on your couch or in the office or something. You use a phablet whenever, like getting stuck in line or waiting for your food in a restaurant, etc.


By erikejw on 8/26/2012 10:43:49 AM , Rating: 2
This will all end in tears.

Maybe China, India and the rest of Asia is learning how to create good laws for themselves. 3 Billion people market compared to 300 million.

In 20 years Asias economy will be 5 times USA+Europe in high tech markets.

Discussions in incomprehensible language behind closed doors 20 years from now:If Apple can patent the rectangle we must be capable to patent geometry. We did use fire and water before the native Indians so we have prior art on all materials containing oxygene, carbon, hydrogen. So products containing that will be severe infringements.

Isn't that unfair?: Life isnt fair, they need us, not the other way around. We are the market and you cant argue the market is wrong, can you. Well, argue our military had a secret patent archive all those years. Nothing new with that, evil grinn.
They have to prove us wrong.

They simply has to take it to our supreme court and the trial will be fair and balanced, right.

They might be the first with apples but we have oranges. Well call the company Clockwork Orange.


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By Reclaimer77 on 8/25/2012 12:01:38 AM , Rating: 2
On what planet do you see a "ban" happening here? Samsung isn't "banned" from doing business here. This will be tied up for years in appeals anyway. Nothing has changed all that much.

A Samsung smartphone with sharp corners will still kick as much Windows Phone ass as they did with rounded ones.

quote:
But after Samsung is banned I think WP8 may see some decent sales


Hardly a thrilling endorsement for Windows Phone is it? "Ban" the competition if you can't beat it.

Only trolling idiot fanboi's see this as some kind of "win". We, the consumers, are the ones who lose when competition gets eliminated and monopolies are allowed to form. I don't believe this will happen, but it's scarey to see that in your mind this is already the case. And it's somehow a good thing.


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By muhahaaha on 8/25/2012 11:41:23 AM , Rating: 3
I'm a software developer and I'm going to keep this short...

Win8 is a joke. If it wasn't for the fact that MS finally got everything working properly with OpenCL (Direct Compute) on the desktop - (like OSX Mountain Lion did a while ago), there would be little difference from Win7.

Whine all you want, Win8 is a service pack enabling Metro (Modern) style apps (crap that can run on the desktop and also a phone or tablet).

It all stems from a douche bag's decision to kill Silverlight and Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF). His name is Steven Sinofsky. He will be the destroyer of Windows and his throat is already targeted by many.

I wish Bill Gates would take a few hours out of his new "saving the world" crap and drop kick some douches at MS.


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By Iketh on 8/25/2012 1:05:23 PM , Rating: 2
I'm also a developer and don't feel nearly the same way as you. I'm dying to get my apps on tablets.

The only developers I've found that are upset about Silverlight and WPF are those that have invested time in them, and they are madder than you in person (don't bring it up around them). I haven't invested time in either, and because of this, I'm happy. Reduce the redundancy PLEASE!

HTML5 is the future.


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By Reclaimer77 on 8/25/12, Rating: -1
RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By Iketh on 8/25/2012 3:11:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And that makes their point of view any less valid?


Yes, they're biased.


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By Reclaimer77 on 8/25/2012 3:54:36 PM , Rating: 2
lol by that logic you're equally as biased because you DON'T work with Silverlight. Hello?

Not saying some aren't biased, but it seems like you are just using that as an excuse to brush aside any criticism with a single sweep.


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By Iketh on 8/25/2012 9:00:55 PM , Rating: 3
Saying I'm brushing aside the criticism is exactly what I'm doing. The whole point of me replying to his post is to try to discredit the MS bashing. I'm glad you're following along.

I've yet to hear someone say, "Man, I'm bummed about Silverlight. I wanted to learn it so bad!" That's because there are other (and presumably better) options. Reducing redundancy is a good thing, except to those that are on the losing end.

Saying I'm biased against Silverlight is silly. I could care less if Silverlight was the winning/losing technology. I just want a clear lane to travel, and thankfully that's what I'm getting.


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By tayb on 8/26/2012 3:53:58 PM , Rating: 2
Silverlight sucks. I'm sorry that you invested time in it. I am looking forward to developing metro apps and having a unified distribution platform. WPF is not dead either, just so you know. No one is going to stop you from making windows 8 desktop apps using WPF. I'm not sure what makes you think otherwise.n


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By Helbore on 8/25/2012 9:36:31 AM , Rating: 2
I do wonder if this might end up making WP8 more popular with manufacturers. Samsung make WP devices, too and they will be protected by Microsoft's legal cover, as 1) MS will defend their OEM partners and, 2) MS have a cross licensing deal with Apple and its just as important for Apple to protect that as Microsoft.

All Samsung has to do is make the Galaxy S4 a Windows Phone variant and see how it goes. There's no risk at all in them trying and potentially a lot less legal hassle if it succeeds.


RE: No surprise MS is happy about it
By muhahaaha on 8/25/2012 11:46:40 AM , Rating: 2
yeah and become SamSuck in the process. WP8 isn't going anywhere dude. I'd even side with MacDevDude on this one.


By Helbore on 8/25/2012 8:26:26 PM , Rating: 2
It's fair enough to question the likelihood of that scenario. I'm only putting out a possibility and not "fanboying" for some side. It's a possible course of action that they could take, even if its risky and has no guarantee of commercial success. I'm not even saying its necessarily a good idea, so don't think I'm making some bold, definitive statement here.

Certainly, don't feel I'm drawing a line that would require you to side with Macdevdude. I would never do that to anyone.


"Mac OS X is like living in a farmhouse in the country with no locks, and Windows is living in a house with bars on the windows in the bad part of town." -- Charlie Miller














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