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Acer and other PC makers lower forecasts for second half 2012 PC shipments

While many PC makers saw the coming of Windows 8 as an opportunity for growth and increased competition against Apple, those feelings are slowly fading.
Acer Inc., Quanta Computer Inc. and Compal Electronics Inc., three major PC makers, have all lost hope in Windows 8 being the savior of PC sales for the second half of fiscal year 2012. This opinion differs from those heard by the same PC makers earlier this year, who were happy to show off Windows 8 laptops, all-in-ones and ultrabooks at the Computex trade show in Taipei. Acer even said that Windows 8 PCs would bring growth to his company once again. 
But these opinions changed as PC makers see no customer enthusiasm for personal computers running the Windows 8 operating system. Another issue, according to analysts and the PC makers, is that Windows 8 laptops and ultrabooks will likely be much too expensive upon release. 
J.T. Wang, CEO of Acer, said he has grown unsure of the Windows 8 ecosystem. His company is lowering its expectations for PC sales upon Windows 8's release.
"Originally, we were expecting very high growth in the second half," said Wang. "We're still waiting for a sign of consumer enthusiasm."
Analysts are changing their sales forecasts as well, mainly due to the fact that some believe it'll take three to four financial quarters for consumers to get onboard with Windows 8. It won't take off right away. Rather, Microsoft will have to seek out developers for more applications in order to grab consumer interest.
While the PC turf isn't looking so hot, mobile devices may not be so disappointing. The price of touchscreens and tablets running Windows 8 may be an issue, especially because there are many cheaper alternatives, but consumers have shown greater enthusiasm for Microsoft's Surface tablet
Windows 8 has been a pretty controversial topic. The main issue seems to be the user interface, formerly called Metro. It features colorful tiles that represent different applications on the home screen. The change was a hopeful move to attract new users (perhaps those normally enticed by Apple's colorful and friendly-looking operating systems). However, Microsoft is looking to change the name of Metro after a recent discovery -- a German retailer called Metro AG threatened to sue. 
Windows 8 will be released to the public on October 26

Source: ETrade

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By Tony Swash on 8/21/2012 1:56:48 PM , Rating: -1
I now offer Jason Mick and others this opportunity to admit they were wrong and that my criticism's of Windows 8, specifically Metro on the desktop PC, were based on more than hate and bias.

Thump! That was the sounding of me fainting because we agree on something. The fabric of the universe is changing :)

Windows 8 is the most complex suicide note in history. Maybe Microsoft can pull this off but it seems to me that they decided to ruin the user experience on their existing desktop business, which is at least large and profitable if a trifle stagnant, in order to chase a market for mobile devices in which they have essentially zero presence. A very big gamble.

They were correct to realise that mobile devices were the future but they made the classic MS error of trying to protect the Windows business when what was needed was an alternative OS for mobile devices. It's possible to have two separate OS, one for the desktop and one for mobile devices and still have a high degree of integration, Apple do it with OSX and iOS. Microsoft seems to think that calling the mobile OS 'Windows' and making it run on all hardware is a big plus, it's not.

It will be very interesting watching this pan out.

By Pirks on 8/21/2012 4:13:09 PM , Rating: 1
they decided to ruin the user experience on their existing desktop business
They didn't ruin anything. The old desktop is still there. All the old enterprise apps work just fine. User retraining is minimal, just show them how corners work and voila, job is done and typical corporate user is as productive as ever. So you're just fantasizing and following a couple of oldfags here like Reclaimer and Motoman who stuck their beloved 5" PC-DOS floppy so far up their asses that it sticks out their mouth now and obstructs their vision. Don't make mistake following PC-DOS oldfags like these, always think for yourself Tony. MS has done radical UI changes before, they moved from PC-DOS to classic Win 3.x UI then they moved from Win 3.x to very different Win 95 UI and all the Motomans and Reclaimers were wailing about how MS is gonna fail, just like they're wailing now. Think about MS history, think hard instead of following local oldfags.
very big gamble
Just like all of their major changes before. Some of their gambles were successful, some not. I don't see why Win 8 is going to be not a successful one. It blends best touch UI with best x86 desktop app support, this just can't fail by definition. With developer tools that pwn every other tools in the industry (including the joke they call XCode, this one is so lame and ugly compared to VS 2012... man you don't want to dig into it, you'll get depressed like me :P I was of much higher opinion of Apple's devtools before I compared XCode with VS 2012 myself) MS will have no problem getting tons of Metro apps for its new OS, given that these apps FIRST TIME IN MS HISTORY could be easily ported between console, PC, tablets and phones, all on different hardware architectures. This is a grand vision and a huge platform shift, and it looks risky I agree, but which platform shift is not? Don't you remember all the wailing predicting Apple fail after they moved to x86? Or all the negative remarks about early versions of iOS? Come on Tony, what happened with your memory? One sided blindness and anti-MS bias much because you are an Apple stock holder? I told ya people! Heheee
what was needed was an alternative OS for mobile devices
They actually have TWO separate alternative OSes for mobile ARM-based devices, one is WP8 and the other is WinRT for tablets. You just have not a slightest idea Tony what the heck you're talking about :))) Maybe you should read up on some basics first, before posting here? Maybe reading some other sites besides Apple's cock sucking ones like Gruber and Dediu will help? I hope it will. Try it sometime ;)
classic MS error of trying to protect the Windows business
Doh, they were making this classic error for like 30 years already, always guaranteeing their customers best backwards compatibility one can imagine. Win8 can run on some real ancient machines from like 12 years ago if not more, while OS X 10.8 can run on exactly what? Macs from 2009 or something? Tony, don't pretend to be THAT dumb, I know you are not. If you read some alternative sites that do NOT suck Apple's cock you will realize that MS always used their backwards compatibility as their strongest weapon, ESPECIALLY in corporate sector where this is NUMBER ONE PRIORITY usually, 'cause they all have those famous PC-DOS apps written in 1980 that MS still supports you know.

Let me tell you what MS is doing here. I know this because I read a LOT of stuff besides Apple's cock sucking Gruber etc. What MS is doing here is called BRANCHING. They were making enough money on corporate market and on consumer market too because they had no competition for like 15 years and they used their monopoly to get super profits. Now they got competition on consumer market that quickly knocked them down to almost irrelevance. So what they do now essentially is branching their Windows brand into their own hardware/software package for tablets (Surface and other monolithic ARM tablet packages with secure boot OS tightly controlled by MS) and for phones (MS subdivision called Nokia is being assimilated into MS empire as of right now). So what we have here is that MS is coming back on consumer front, trying to attack on both hardware and tight integration fronts, which was always the main market crack'n'conquer weapon of Apple. And while they come back on consumer front they also made sure their corporate customers do not suffer, so they made Win8 100% corporate friendly by leaving old desktop intact and providing very easy transition for corporate users by doing some minimal retraining about using corners with your mouse.

How this very rational and thought out strategy of conquering new market while properly supporting older traditional markets can fail is way beyond me. Your Apple cock sucking friends like Gruber predict failure, and lousy cheapshit producing OEMs wail the same too and even a couple of religious oldfags like Motoman and his twin Reclaimer here predict failure, but tell me, will you really trust 'em all when making a judgement? You trusting WinPC zealots like Motoman, Apple zealots like Gruber and losing businessmen like Acer's Wang is a GOOD IDEA? Really?

Do you see the full picture now Tony? Did my little lesson help you understanding all this better? Please share your feedback, I'm interested. Thank you :)

By Tony Swash on 8/22/2012 5:52:03 AM , Rating: 1
Here's one happy punter

I really, really hope Microsoft doesn't change a thing in Windows 8.

It's perfect just as it's is ;)

By Helbore on 8/22/2012 10:40:42 AM , Rating: 3
To be fair, Tony, that guy is clearly a moron.

He can't even work out how to edit an appointment in the metro calendar app. Ummm, all you have to do is click on it and type into the boody obvious text boxes that appear. Saving is a simply matter of clicking the button that looks like a disk. The button isn't even hidden in any menus.

The worst part - I hadn't even bothered to use the metro calendar app before reading about his problems (I use Outlook for that). It took me all of 30 seconds to work it out - its that obvious how to use it.

Frankly, if that guy is so clueless he couldn't work out how to operate such a simple app, he shouldn't be tech blogging. Perhaps something simpler, like nose-picking, would be more up his street.

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