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Acer and other PC makers lower forecasts for second half 2012 PC shipments

While many PC makers saw the coming of Windows 8 as an opportunity for growth and increased competition against Apple, those feelings are slowly fading.
 
Acer Inc., Quanta Computer Inc. and Compal Electronics Inc., three major PC makers, have all lost hope in Windows 8 being the savior of PC sales for the second half of fiscal year 2012. This opinion differs from those heard by the same PC makers earlier this year, who were happy to show off Windows 8 laptops, all-in-ones and ultrabooks at the Computex trade show in Taipei. Acer even said that Windows 8 PCs would bring growth to his company once again. 
 
But these opinions changed as PC makers see no customer enthusiasm for personal computers running the Windows 8 operating system. Another issue, according to analysts and the PC makers, is that Windows 8 laptops and ultrabooks will likely be much too expensive upon release. 
 
J.T. Wang, CEO of Acer, said he has grown unsure of the Windows 8 ecosystem. His company is lowering its expectations for PC sales upon Windows 8's release.
 
"Originally, we were expecting very high growth in the second half," said Wang. "We're still waiting for a sign of consumer enthusiasm."
 
Analysts are changing their sales forecasts as well, mainly due to the fact that some believe it'll take three to four financial quarters for consumers to get onboard with Windows 8. It won't take off right away. Rather, Microsoft will have to seek out developers for more applications in order to grab consumer interest.
 
While the PC turf isn't looking so hot, mobile devices may not be so disappointing. The price of touchscreens and tablets running Windows 8 may be an issue, especially because there are many cheaper alternatives, but consumers have shown greater enthusiasm for Microsoft's Surface tablet
 
Windows 8 has been a pretty controversial topic. The main issue seems to be the user interface, formerly called Metro. It features colorful tiles that represent different applications on the home screen. The change was a hopeful move to attract new users (perhaps those normally enticed by Apple's colorful and friendly-looking operating systems). However, Microsoft is looking to change the name of Metro after a recent discovery -- a German retailer called Metro AG threatened to sue. 
 
Windows 8 will be released to the public on October 26

Source: ETrade



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RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By Dribble on 8/21/2012 1:38:24 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, win 8 on anything that's not a tablet is terrible. Not sure why everyone is so keen on defending it, all I can think is they haven't used it?

It's a touchscreen os and trying to make it work for a traditional windows desktop or laptop is very much a case of round peg in square hole.


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By Motoman on 8/21/2012 1:48:11 PM , Rating: 1
It's because children always think something new is necessarily better than something old.

Like on-screen keyboards on phones instead of physical keyboards.

Like the "ribbon" toolbar instead of the traditional toolbar.

...and like the UI formerly known as Metro(sexual) over the traditional Windows UI.

Some things are in the form they're in because it's the optimal form. The general form of the wheel, for example. Pants. Toasters. Drinking glasses. These are just a few things that haven't really changed...ever. Because they can't be made better than they already are - they're in their optimal form. "Oh my gawd, 2-legged pants are soooooo 2011! These pants have 3 legs - they're 50% better! Why can't you see that? THIS IS WHO I AM!!!111!!1one"

People are finally starting to realize that, with the unMetro UI, the emperor has no clothes. While the dipsh1ts of this world are still p1ssing themselves over having a phone-like UI on a desktop PC (it's new, and therefore necessarily better), finally some people who are actually possessed of brains are starting to speak up and point out what a horrifically bad idea it is.


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By GoodBytes on 8/21/2012 2:09:25 PM , Rating: 2
So why are you using anything above DOS or Unix Terminal?
Interfaces, especially menus, has been criticizes even more than Windows 8 Start Screen, look where we are now, and look at what you are enjoying.

I for one, love the ribbon bar, and I wish every software would use it, so that I can use advance feature in 1-2 mouse clicks and not go menu by menu for 30min trying to find the option, or group of options to click to do things.

I have2 complaints about Windows 8
-> Hard to shutdown/restart the computer
-> Metro app take priority on file association over desktop apps, even if a desktop program registers a file type, if their is a metro app that previously opened it, it will open with the Metro app. You need to use "Default programs" panel once you install Windows 8 and your desktop app, to register all program properly. An extra step to do.

However, for me, the ups clearly surpass the downs. So I'll be getting Windows 8 on day 1 of its official release on both my laptop (which enjoys an extra hour of battery life, AND makes my ambient light sensor work again, which it didn't in Windows 7 64-bit but did in Vista 64-bit), and the large tiles making using a touchpad to point and click a breeze. Plus its more responsive on both my systems, and games on my desktop, gain a nice performance increase.


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By JediJeb on 8/21/2012 3:28:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I for one, love the ribbon bar, and I wish every software would use it, so that I can use advance feature in 1-2 mouse clicks and not go menu by menu for 30min trying to find the option, or group of options to click to do things.


I have the opposite experience with the ribbon. For me the ribbon takes up too much vertical space, and is even worse when on a wide screen monitor, plus where in older versions of Excel I could get to what I wanted in maybe 2 clicks now I hunt all over the ribbon because nothing is where it seems it should be. Same with W7 on my new laptop, I hunt for hours to find the things that were right up front with XP(after I switched back to the classic style menu). Even the groupings in XP by default seemed to scramble things up for me. What is so wrong with opening Control Panel and having all the sub menus right there on the screen instead of grouping them and making another layer to drill down through? Then W7 took something as simple as Add/Remove Programs and put it in some strange obscure place that takes forever to find.

Maybe they are just trying to keep the people who make a living training people how to use windows in business for a while longer. Constantly make changes to the UI and those people get to keep retraining whole workforces.


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By Motoman on 8/21/2012 4:29:57 PM , Rating: 1
Simple physics dictates that the ribbon bar provides less functionality that traditional toolbars. For the simple fact that MS felt it necessary to Fisher-Price all the icons into clownishly huge proportions such that only 1 icon can go where 4 or so used to fit. And then limit you to only seeing one toolbar (a ribbon is just a fat toolbar) at a time.

Not better. Worse.

Thanks for proving my thesis.


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By Motoman on 8/21/2012 4:32:51 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, and as for:

quote:
So why are you using anything above DOS or Unix Terminal? Interfaces, especially menus, has been criticizes even more than Windows 8 Start Screen, look where we are now, and look at what you are enjoying.


Because Windows 3.11, with it's GUI, was a decided improvement over DOS. And the Windows 95 GUI, with the modern Start menu, was an decided improvement over Windows 3.1.

The Start menu didn't really change in any fundamental way from Windows 95 to Windows 7. Little bits and bobs here and there, sure...but it was fundamentally the same - because that's the optimal form.


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By Pirks on 8/21/2012 4:43:11 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
because that's the optimal form
It's optimal only for PC-DOS loving oldfags like you, but for the modern user who'd like to see live tiles with system status updates, email, chat, notifications, weather, stock etc on a single screen your oldfaggy Win95 interface is not optimal at all.


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By Motoman on 8/21/2012 5:23:40 PM , Rating: 1
You've been able to have all that stuff on your desktop, either via native widgets, or 3rd party bits, since at least WinXP.

You have no point.


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By Pirks on 8/21/2012 5:55:25 PM , Rating: 2
My point is that Win8 already integrates all this third party stuff which is very useful for most users. More integration of useful software out of the box - better experience for the end user. Got it now?


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By Motoman on 8/21/2012 9:45:59 PM , Rating: 1
I see you can't fathom the phrase "native widgets" - that means they come out of the box.

You continue to have no point.


RE: SHUT UP HATER!!!
By Pirks on 8/22/2012 1:17:56 AM , Rating: 2
There are no native widgets in XP and those in Vista occupy your desktop, not start screen, and they are not live tiles connected to some full blown apps behind. These are different things. Learn some basics about how Metro works and what are the main UI concepts behind it.


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