quote: I just want to say this again:
The current production samples are actually perfect indicators of how Conroe is going to perform.
quote: Fact is, that X6800 samples are floating around already, and can do 4ghz on air.
quote: I think people really should take a close look at clock speeds and chip costs. Because, clock for clock... the core processor scales far better than the AMD 64 x2 chip. I mean, the core 2 duo CPU really doesnt start to shine until you pass 4ghz.
quote: So I say this... to people who dont want to look at pre-production benchmarks... no issue, just look at the Yonah Core Duo benchmarks. That is only with 2MB L2 cache.
quote: There is so much information avalible out there, i dont know how there can still be so much confusion.
quote: There are? The one link I saw used phase change cooling, and was not stable at 4GHz.
quote: Because its not the same core? Because Yonah is a P3 derivitive with nothing to do with Conroe?
quote: Again, I'm pretty sure you're confusing things here? Have you actually seen benchmarks for a >4GHz Core2? I kind of doubt they exist. Just looking at this roadmap, I'm not seeing the 3.33GHz Conroe part Intel talked about for months. If 4+GHz was so easy, why are they lowering the clock speed on launch parts?
quote: There is a lot info out there, and I think you should spend some time reading about it! Start with the difference between Conroe and Yonah.
quote: double *sigh* Yonah has everything to do with Conroe. Are you going to tell me that Merom has nothing to do with Conroe either? They are all variants of the core architecture. Intel is working hard to lower their cost. By creating a unified processor, to serve all segments (mobile, desktop, server) IE: Yonah/Merom, Conroe, Woodcrest it makes it much cheaper to produce processors. While I am not familar with the exact manufacturing differences between a Conroe E6300 and a Yonah T2400, they both share pretty much the same core, while the Yonah is optimized to use less power. Hence, why Yonah benchmarks are so important to reconize the power of Conroe.
quote: As I said above, the Yonah and Conroe processors both share the same core architecture.
quote: double *sigh* Yonah has everything to do with Conroe. Are you going to tell me that Merom has nothing to do with Conroe either? They are all variants of the core architecture.